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GPL: No damage in (offline) racing?

David Butte

GPL: No damage in (offline) racing?

by David Butte » Wed, 23 May 2001 22:10:50

I get so frustrated when I can't even finish an Int Short in the Lotus
(the car seems much more fragile than online). Is there a util
around that allows you to race offline GPL without damage?

--
David. (GPLRank handicap: -5.92; Monsters of GPLRank h/cap +282.87)
The GPL Scrapyard: http://www.racesimcentral.net/
"After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll,
really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh.

Roger Squire

GPL: No damage in (offline) racing?

by Roger Squire » Thu, 24 May 2001 00:31:29

Better to drop the lotus and race the cooper or eagle, they are more fun
anyway.

rms

Bart Westr

GPL: No damage in (offline) racing?

by Bart Westr » Thu, 24 May 2001 05:44:05


Yes, it's called SVGEdit, you find it at the pits
(http://www.theuspits.com/).

Bart Westra

David Butte

GPL: No damage in (offline) racing?

by David Butte » Thu, 24 May 2001 07:38:21


Well, I generally drive the Ferrari these days, mainly because of the
annoying unreliability of the Lotus. I'd just like to have a bit of fun
in the Lotus now and again.

--
David. (GPLRank handicap: -5.92; Monsters of GPLRank h/cap +282.87)
The GPL Scrapyard: http://scrapyard.9ug.com
"After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll,
really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh.

David Butte

GPL: No damage in (offline) racing?

by David Butte » Thu, 24 May 2001 07:39:35


Or www.thenorwaypits.com in my case, as the US site is too
unreliable... cheers.

--
David. (GPLRank handicap: -5.92; Monsters of GPLRank h/cap +282.87)
The GPL Scrapyard: http://scrapyard.9ug.com
"After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll,
really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh.

Ale

GPL: No damage in (offline) racing?

by Ale » Thu, 24 May 2001 10:54:24


en0.news.prodigy.com:

But be warned that at the tracks where you had easy wins in your
pocket you may find yourself only fighting for points. I switched from
Lotus to Honda and now I have no chances at all at Mosport. AI is running
mid 1.21 starting from the first lap. How mere humans are supposed
to win in Honda? (has anyone actually done it when at least one fast car
stayed in the race?) Even at Mexico, where AI is slow winning in Honda is
not that easy - those Lotii are quite hard to pass. Good point that I had
no mechanical failures so far (Pro Short).

Alex
(alexti)

Dave Henri

GPL: No damage in (offline) racing?

by Dave Henri » Thu, 24 May 2001 13:10:14

  I hate to ask, but you do know to lift off the throttle momentarily when
shifting?  right?  sorry if thats too
basic to be considered...
dave henrie

Hamish Stron

GPL: No damage in (offline) racing?

by Hamish Stron » Thu, 24 May 2001 13:29:39

Anyone know if it's possible to set a macro on your controller so that when
changing gear the throttle is automatically removed and reapplied as soon as
the gear change is complete without having to lift your foot off the
accelerator? (kind of like a tip-tronic shifter). Would it be cheating?

Cheers
Hamish


>   I hate to ask, but you do know to lift off the throttle momentarily when
> shifting?  right?  sorry if thats too
> basic to be considered...
> dave henrie


> > I get so frustrated when I can't even finish an Int Short in the Lotus
> > (the car seems much more fragile than online). Is there a util
> > around that allows you to race offline GPL without damage?

> > --
> > David. (GPLRank handicap: -5.92; Monsters of GPLRank h/cap +282.87)
> > The GPL Scrapyard: http://scrapyard.9ug.com
> > "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll,
> > really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh.

Thom j

GPL: No damage in (offline) racing?

by Thom j » Thu, 24 May 2001 14:27:45

Questions David.. Since you have a high level GPLRank and it sure
seems you know how to race. How do you race a Lotus? Your are
or must be good with other chassis so how can this be?
I started with the Lotus as soon as GPL was forsale on the shelves
way back when but I never "Encountered" these problems and my
GPLRank certainly does not come close to yours... This enquiring
mind would like to know.... :-) Do you have a replay available?
Thom_j.

| > I get so frustrated when I can't even finish an Int Short in the Lotus
| > (the car seems much more fragile than online). Is there a util
| > around that allows you to race offline GPL without damage?
| >
| > --
| > David. (GPLRank handicap: -5.92; Monsters of GPLRank h/cap +282.87)
| > The GPL Scrapyard: http://scrapyard.9ug.com
| > "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll,
| > really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh.
|
|

Tony Whitle

GPL: No damage in (offline) racing?

by Tony Whitle » Thu, 24 May 2001 15:16:16

"Bart Westra" wrote...



> > I get so frustrated when I can't even finish an Int Short in the Lotus
> > (the car seems much more fragile than online). Is there a util
> > around that allows you to race offline GPL without damage?

> Yes, it's called SVGEdit, you find it at the pits
> (http://www.racesimcentral.net/).

> Bart Westra

If you just want a short length race with no damage (and a more permanent
change) you could use my Race Length Editor to change the length of a Novice
race:
http://www.racesimcentral.net/
ip

--
Tony Whitley
GPLRank -0.54
"On some laps I'd get as many as fif*** corners really right, but Moss, he
gets them all right on every lap" - Von Trips after the 1961 German Grand
Prix.

Tony Whitle

GPL: No damage in (offline) racing?

by Tony Whitle » Thu, 24 May 2001 14:57:47

Yes :)

--
Tony Whitley
GPLRank -0.54
"On some laps I'd get as many as fif*** corners really right, but Moss, he
gets them all right on every lap" - Von Trips after the 1961 German Grand
Prix.

Eldre

GPL: No damage in (offline) racing?

by Eldre » Fri, 25 May 2001 01:03:21



>But be warned that at the tracks where you had easy wins in your
>pocket you may find yourself only fighting for points. I switched from
>Lotus to Honda and now I have no chances at all at Mosport. AI is running
>mid 1.21 starting from the first lap. How mere humans are supposed
>to win in Honda? (has anyone actually done it when at least one fast car
>stayed in the race?) Even at Mexico, where AI is slow winning in Honda is
>not that easy - those Lotii are quite hard to pass. Good point that I had
>no mechanical failures so far (Pro Short).

The AI is slow at Mexico?!?  Are we playing the same game...?<g>

Eldred
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David Butte

GPL: No damage in (offline) racing?

by David Butte » Fri, 25 May 2001 08:00:17


Yes, I do lift off when shifting - when I'm racing "properly".

What I want is a way to have a quick thrash so's I can sppedshift &
slipstream at the same time, 'cause me Monza time's been stuck in teh
mid-28s for ages. Dubious morality, maybe, but hey... :-)

--
David. (GPLRank handicap: -5.92; Monsters of GPLRank h/cap +282.87)
The GPL Scrapyard: http://scrapyard.9ug.com
"After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll,
really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh.

David Butte

GPL: No damage in (offline) racing?

by David Butte » Fri, 25 May 2001 08:03:32


I don't generally have too many problems, even with the Lotus, when
racing "properly", as I said in my reply to Dave Henrie. That's the
reason I specified "offline" in my subject line - I *only* want a quick
fix for quick blasts vs the AI.

And you're on very thin ice equating a low GPLRank with good racing
skills... <g> As VROC types may have noticed, I tend to drive the
Ferrari when I'm doing "serious" racing, ie trying to win. Monza is a
bit of a special case - the Lotus' sheer speed is just too important to
ignore there.

--
David. (GPLRank handicap: -5.92; Monsters of GPLRank h/cap +282.87)
The GPL Scrapyard: http://scrapyard.9ug.com
"After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll,
really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh.

Ale

GPL: No damage in (offline) racing?

by Ale » Fri, 25 May 2001 08:42:31





>>But be warned that at the tracks where you had easy wins in your
>>pocket you may find yourself only fighting for points. I switched from
>>Lotus to Honda and now I have no chances at all at Mosport. AI is
>>running mid 1.21 starting from the first lap. How mere humans are
>>supposed to win in Honda? (has anyone actually done it when at least
>>one fast car stayed in the race?) Even at Mexico, where AI is slow
>>winning in Honda is not that easy - those Lotii are quite hard to pass.
>>Good point that I had no mechanical failures so far (Pro Short).

> The AI is slow at Mexico?!?  Are we playing the same game...?<g>

Comparatively. At Mexico fastest cars run somwhere in range
1:50.50 - 1:51.00 (fixed standard AI). For comparison, at Mosport
they run around 1:21.70 - 1:22.20 range. From GPLRank:
drivers with pb below 1:50.50 at Mexico - 930,
drivers with pb below 1:21.70 at Mosport - 321.
After checking this numbers I am not sure myself that the difference
is that big as it appeared to me. My impression was based on
the fact that at Mosport I normally lap in the same range as AI
with few laps in low 1:21 and few laps with mistakes, so winning
there is quite tough, but at Mexico, I can lap in 1:48.00 - 1:49.00
range quite comfortably, so winning there is much easier (both times
in Lotus).

I'd like to see in GPLRank a feature that would show distribution
of drivers by lap times.

Alex
(alexti)


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