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Sean Higgins

"HigPup"
"Hollywood" for R6  "Hollywood__NWO" for ZONE

http://www.racesimcentral.net/~higgy/hsts2/  HSTS, Powered by ATI Rage 128
http://www.racesimcentral.net/~higgy/
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http://w1.111.telia.com/~u11103812/lwff.htm

And thanks to Dave Kickhafer for the help with proof reading!

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/M Lindqvist

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Bart Westra

So I have a proposition for you... How about creating some kind of kit
that you can sell?  I know it's probably not a fun idea, but you've done
it before so the 2nd time should be easier.  I'm willing to shell out a good
chunk of change.  If these improvements do what you say, I'd even
consider having a new wheel delivered to your door that you could
"build" for me.  What do ya think?

You've done a great thing here....taken a FF wheel and given it a
premium feel.   I've contacted ECCI, Thomas, SRC Wheels, and Ball
Racing about their plans for FF and the responses have been lukewarm.
ECCI has designed the wheel to accept FF, Thomas is worried about
cost and licensing, SRC never wrote back, and Ball Racing is in the
R&D process as we speak.  Forget all of them.  You've done what I would
like to do, I just don't have the tools to do it myself.   I don't know where
I'm going with this....too much caffine... but congratulations.  Great work,
article and web page.

-Andrew

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Thanks,

Andre

On Wed, 18 Aug 1999 08:38:03 +0200, "Bart Westra"

Very nice and detailed webpage, wow!

I must say some of those modifications look very tempting, but
I managed to disassemble my LWFF shortly after I purchased it
and had a hell of a time getting the cable + motor + wheel gear assemblies
to line up the proper way so that they would give the proper range of
motion once assembled, it's not something I would look forward to doing
again soon.

But you do mention some helpful hints on doing this so maybe one of
these days I will have the patience to do some of those bearing upgrades.

Thanks for detailing that so well.

Seeyas on the track.

--John (Joao) Silva

-Andrew

Me too. I have no skills to do what he did , but it would be a great thing
to have it done.

sandor

I have noticed a bit of sloppiness in the plastic bearings of the Logitech
myself. I am pretty satisfied with it, but I suspect the plastic bearings
will wear over time, and swallow more and more of the subtle forces...

In fact I have several more ideas on how to improve the design of the thing:

 - I'd like the possibility to send the pot signal into my PDPI card...
 - I'd love to increase the max lock. 180 degrees is to little!!! I'd like
more like 300 degrees! Perhaps even making a multi turn wheel (more than 360
degrees).
 - I'd love to have a look at the circuitry, to see if it is possible to buy
the required chips and make my own FF wheel!!! With a stronger and smoother
motor with a higher ratio

I will look into the matter, but not until I have finished my Pressure
Sensitive Brake Pedal! I will report any progress on this on this NG, there
should be a lot of persons interested in this.

---Asgeir---

http://ecci.net/

180 degrees is not much and it can't bee increased more than 20-30 degrees.
Turn the LWFF wheel more and the steel cable will pop off the shaft on the
motor. A longer shaft on the motor might give a 10-20 degrees extra, but
after that are the plastic pulleys on the limit.

But you can always re-design the whole FF unit to get a multi turn wheel. ;)

There is some very interesting ideas you have there! Especially the preasure
sensitive brake pedal. I have been thinking about one myself, and I'm
looking forward to read about your pedal!

/M Lindqvist

Hopefully will I update the page tomorrow with a few more details.

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Don McCorkle
Libertarian Motorsports

On Thu, 19 Aug 1999 12:50:06 +0200, "schmikli"

I removed those two plastic stops on the front of the metal mounting plate to
increase the max lock, and this allowed the wheel to turn about 20 degrees more
from lock to lock.

The pressure sensitive pedal is great idea, I know that. ;-) And I have the
means to be able to make one. I plan using a load cell from a cheap digital
weight. I have to make a small circuit as well, and I might find trouble
enabling the device to be used with any game port. I have to test a bit to do
that.

I'd love having a brake pedal with short travel and almost rock solid threshold,
then pressure sensitive with no upper limit... hehe...

Luckily I have made my own pedal unit with plenty of room for both the standard
pot brakes AND at the same time a pressure sensitive pick-up. So experimenting
can go on quite independant and simultaneously as the old traditioinal pot
setup...

It's all an the drawing board, need a few parts, I think that this kind of think
would be interesting for more or less all serious sim racers around the world.

---Asgeir---