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iRacing = crack in a box

fmena..

iRacing = crack in a box

by fmena.. » Sat, 07 Jun 2008 10:02:39

The NDA has been lifted for iRacing.

And as I said in the subject, iRacing is crack in a box.  It's the
most
***ing thing a simracer will get since the end of the NROS.  It's
that
amazing.  Sure it's not finished yet, but it will open in less than a
month
so you guys better start preparing yourself if you ever want to start
simracing again.

Let me rephrase this :  iRacing is so good (physics, track modelling,
multi
racing experience) that it made me come back from retirement, made me
buy a
1500$ PC and a G25 wheel.

***es better prepare yourself, simracing is back.

Andrew MacPhers

iRacing = crack in a box

by Andrew MacPhers » Sat, 07 Jun 2008 15:20:00


> ***es better prepare yourself, simracing is back.

I've still got my fingers crossed that I'll hate it. I've almost given up
*** completely, and the 'beast' down the desk hasn't been switched on
for weeks. Actually it might nearly be months.

It sounds like I'd better start filtering out any message with iRacing in
it, just in case anyone starts calling it GPL2. :-)

Andrew McP

Jack

iRacing = crack in a box

by Jack » Sat, 07 Jun 2008 22:23:48



>> ***es better prepare yourself, simracing is back.

> I've still got my fingers crossed that I'll hate it. I've almost given up
> *** completely, and the 'beast' down the desk hasn't been switched on
> for weeks. Actually it might nearly be months.

> It sounds like I'd better start filtering out any message with iRacing in
> it, just in case anyone starts calling it GPL2. :-)

> Andrew McP

Well I have been testing it about a month,I don't think I'll be
subscribing after release.Yea ,it's good but not sure it's that much
better than the other racing sims that are out there now.At least not
good enough to justify the pricing to me.
Larr

iRacing = crack in a box

by Larr » Sun, 08 Jun 2008 04:13:39

And off we go.... :)

-Larry


Larr

iRacing = crack in a box

by Larr » Sun, 08 Jun 2008 04:16:03

Then it's not for you Jack.  No problem.  It's not expected to be for
everyone.

However, your post completely side-steps the community, competition and
other aspects of iRacing.  There is a lot more to it than comparing the sim
itself against sim xxxxxx.

-Larry




>>> ***es better prepare yourself, simracing is back.

>> I've still got my fingers crossed that I'll hate it. I've almost given up
>> *** completely, and the 'beast' down the desk hasn't been switched on
>> for weeks. Actually it might nearly be months.

>> It sounds like I'd better start filtering out any message with iRacing in
>> it, just in case anyone starts calling it GPL2. :-)

>> Andrew McP

> Well I have been testing it about a month,I don't think I'll be
> subscribing after release.Yea ,it's good but not sure it's that much
> better than the other racing sims that are out there now.At least not good
> enough to justify the pricing to me.

schoone

iRacing = crack in a box

by schoone » Sun, 08 Jun 2008 04:45:46

There is a lot more and lot less to it compared to other sims.  How you see
the glass will impact who joins.  The sim community is traditionally an open
varied community with a lot of small groups doing varied things, with open
mods, group leagues, custom tracks, add-ons, etc.  iRacing is none of that
as I understand it.  iRacing is more about regimented organized racing on a
grand scale with a central rules board running all aspects, which has both
good and bad aspects.

Time will tell how it goes, but I personally think the pricing plus strict
rules and dictated racing divisions may turn a lot away from it.


> Then it's not for you Jack.  No problem.  It's not expected to be for
> everyone.

> However, your post completely side-steps the community, competition and
> other aspects of iRacing.  There is a lot more to it than comparing the
> sim itself against sim xxxxxx.

> -Larry





>>>> ***es better prepare yourself, simracing is back.

>>> I've still got my fingers crossed that I'll hate it. I've almost given
>>> up
>>> *** completely, and the 'beast' down the desk hasn't been switched on
>>> for weeks. Actually it might nearly be months.

>>> It sounds like I'd better start filtering out any message with iRacing
>>> in
>>> it, just in case anyone starts calling it GPL2. :-)

>>> Andrew McP

>> Well I have been testing it about a month,I don't think I'll be
>> subscribing after release.Yea ,it's good but not sure it's that much
>> better than the other racing sims that are out there now.At least not
>> good enough to justify the pricing to me.

Larr

iRacing = crack in a box

by Larr » Sun, 08 Jun 2008 05:18:53

Valid points.  And exactly why I like the idea.

If I'm being honest, I...

1.  Am tired of online crash fests.
2.  Truly, TRULY sick of the whole mod thing.  Really, I am.  I just wanna
race these days without all that nonsense.
3.  Love the idea of a centralized scoring system.
4.  Love the idea of people racing under their REAL names.
5.  People being responsible for their actions.

And a bunch more.

-Larry


> There is a lot more and lot less to it compared to other sims.  How you
> see the glass will impact who joins.  The sim community is traditionally
> an open varied community with a lot of small groups doing varied things,
> with open mods, group leagues, custom tracks, add-ons, etc.  iRacing is
> none of that as I understand it.  iRacing is more about regimented
> organized racing on a grand scale with a central rules board running all
> aspects, which has both good and bad aspects.

> Time will tell how it goes, but I personally think the pricing plus strict
> rules and dictated racing divisions may turn a lot away from it.



>> Then it's not for you Jack.  No problem.  It's not expected to be for
>> everyone.

>> However, your post completely side-steps the community, competition and
>> other aspects of iRacing.  There is a lot more to it than comparing the
>> sim itself against sim xxxxxx.

>> -Larry





>>>>> ***es better prepare yourself, simracing is back.

>>>> I've still got my fingers crossed that I'll hate it. I've almost given
>>>> up
>>>> *** completely, and the 'beast' down the desk hasn't been switched
>>>> on
>>>> for weeks. Actually it might nearly be months.

>>>> It sounds like I'd better start filtering out any message with iRacing
>>>> in
>>>> it, just in case anyone starts calling it GPL2. :-)

>>>> Andrew McP

>>> Well I have been testing it about a month,I don't think I'll be
>>> subscribing after release.Yea ,it's good but not sure it's that much
>>> better than the other racing sims that are out there now.At least not
>>> good enough to justify the pricing to me.

schoone

iRacing = crack in a box

by schoone » Sun, 08 Jun 2008 05:28:50

I agree on a lot of your points as well, I'm just saying many wont as its a
big change all round for the sim community.

At that price I personally don't think I will bother, with work and personal
life I suspect I wouldn't use it enough to justify the time I could spend
racing.  Plus to do it right I would want a setup on my LCD TV, not at my
primary PC and that seems like a lot for one game.  For the last while I've
basically given up on PC *** at gone the console route, lot less
headaches and much quicker to pop on and play.  I'll wait and see how
iRacing progresses I guess and then see down the road if it may be a
worthwhile investment.

I managed a fulltime multi series N2003 league for years and know the pros
and cons of all involved, iRacing is a good concept, I'm just not sure how
it will fly with their divisional/licensing structure and subscription
model.  To me it seems to lack the personal close group feel that leagues
bring to the racing, and makes it much more sterile and dictated.


> Valid points.  And exactly why I like the idea.

> If I'm being honest, I...

> 1.  Am tired of online crash fests.
> 2.  Truly, TRULY sick of the whole mod thing.  Really, I am.  I just wanna
> race these days without all that nonsense.
> 3.  Love the idea of a centralized scoring system.
> 4.  Love the idea of people racing under their REAL names.
> 5.  People being responsible for their actions.

> And a bunch more.

> -Larry



>> There is a lot more and lot less to it compared to other sims.  How you
>> see the glass will impact who joins.  The sim community is traditionally
>> an open varied community with a lot of small groups doing varied things,
>> with open mods, group leagues, custom tracks, add-ons, etc.  iRacing is
>> none of that as I understand it.  iRacing is more about regimented
>> organized racing on a grand scale with a central rules board running all
>> aspects, which has both good and bad aspects.

>> Time will tell how it goes, but I personally think the pricing plus
>> strict rules and dictated racing divisions may turn a lot away from it.



>>> Then it's not for you Jack.  No problem.  It's not expected to be for
>>> everyone.

>>> However, your post completely side-steps the community, competition and
>>> other aspects of iRacing.  There is a lot more to it than comparing the
>>> sim itself against sim xxxxxx.

>>> -Larry





>>>>>> ***es better prepare yourself, simracing is back.

>>>>> I've still got my fingers crossed that I'll hate it. I've almost given
>>>>> up
>>>>> *** completely, and the 'beast' down the desk hasn't been switched
>>>>> on
>>>>> for weeks. Actually it might nearly be months.

>>>>> It sounds like I'd better start filtering out any message with iRacing
>>>>> in
>>>>> it, just in case anyone starts calling it GPL2. :-)

>>>>> Andrew McP

>>>> Well I have been testing it about a month,I don't think I'll be
>>>> subscribing after release.Yea ,it's good but not sure it's that much
>>>> better than the other racing sims that are out there now.At least not
>>>> good enough to justify the pricing to me.

Larr

iRacing = crack in a box

by Larr » Sun, 08 Jun 2008 05:36:45

Again, very valid points.  I commend you for actually stating what you like,
dislike, and your concerns instead of just saying "It will never fly".  You
would have made a good beta tester :)

Here's another thought.  You can spend more than $20 for a dinner (hell, for
a LUNCH these days!).  Twice that for a movie with all the t***s.  You
get the point.

I think a lot of people would benefit by tossing that one $20 bill at it for
the single month to really give them the info they need to make a good,
solid decision.  I'd hate to see people miss out because they are going by
what naysayers say, instead of experiencing it themselves.

Just something to think about :)

-Larry


>I agree on a lot of your points as well, I'm just saying many wont as its a
>big change all round for the sim community.

> At that price I personally don't think I will bother, with work and
> personal life I suspect I wouldn't use it enough to justify the time I
> could spend racing.  Plus to do it right I would want a setup on my LCD
> TV, not at my primary PC and that seems like a lot for one game.  For the
> last while I've basically given up on PC *** at gone the console route,
> lot less headaches and much quicker to pop on and play.  I'll wait and see
> how iRacing progresses I guess and then see down the road if it may be a
> worthwhile investment.

> I managed a fulltime multi series N2003 league for years and know the pros
> and cons of all involved, iRacing is a good concept, I'm just not sure how
> it will fly with their divisional/licensing structure and subscription
> model.  To me it seems to lack the personal close group feel that leagues
> bring to the racing, and makes it much more sterile and dictated.



>> Valid points.  And exactly why I like the idea.

>> If I'm being honest, I...

>> 1.  Am tired of online crash fests.
>> 2.  Truly, TRULY sick of the whole mod thing.  Really, I am.  I just
>> wanna race these days without all that nonsense.
>> 3.  Love the idea of a centralized scoring system.
>> 4.  Love the idea of people racing under their REAL names.
>> 5.  People being responsible for their actions.

>> And a bunch more.

>> -Larry



>>> There is a lot more and lot less to it compared to other sims.  How you
>>> see the glass will impact who joins.  The sim community is traditionally
>>> an open varied community with a lot of small groups doing varied things,
>>> with open mods, group leagues, custom tracks, add-ons, etc.  iRacing is
>>> none of that as I understand it.  iRacing is more about regimented
>>> organized racing on a grand scale with a central rules board running all
>>> aspects, which has both good and bad aspects.

>>> Time will tell how it goes, but I personally think the pricing plus
>>> strict rules and dictated racing divisions may turn a lot away from it.



>>>> Then it's not for you Jack.  No problem.  It's not expected to be for
>>>> everyone.

>>>> However, your post completely side-steps the community, competition and
>>>> other aspects of iRacing.  There is a lot more to it than comparing the
>>>> sim itself against sim xxxxxx.

>>>> -Larry





>>>>>>> ***es better prepare yourself, simracing is back.

>>>>>> I've still got my fingers crossed that I'll hate it. I've almost
>>>>>> given up
>>>>>> *** completely, and the 'beast' down the desk hasn't been switched
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> for weeks. Actually it might nearly be months.

>>>>>> It sounds like I'd better start filtering out any message with
>>>>>> iRacing in
>>>>>> it, just in case anyone starts calling it GPL2. :-)

>>>>>> Andrew McP

>>>>> Well I have been testing it about a month,I don't think I'll be
>>>>> subscribing after release.Yea ,it's good but not sure it's that much
>>>>> better than the other racing sims that are out there now.At least not
>>>>> good enough to justify the pricing to me.

btgos

iRacing = crack in a box

by btgos » Sun, 08 Jun 2008 06:03:49

Ok.
So what am I going to need to bring to the dance to get the most out
of this sim?

I dropped out of the Beta a loooong time ago from cancer, and while
things are much better (still alive, obviously) I really haven't kept
my computer up to bleeding edge.
I have a p4 3Gig Extreme with 2 gigs of Ram, and I will be getting a
new video card (maybe) if these bare bones will work. If not, then I
am going to wait and build a new system.

I really feel this is the type of game/sim I want now. Not just
because it is very local for me with Legends, Modifieds, and Late
Models. But as someone who beta tested and played Motor City Online, I
have always wanted a "serious" type of racing MMO, and this looks to
be it.

btgoss

Jack

iRacing = crack in a box

by Jack » Sun, 08 Jun 2008 07:04:32


> Ok.
> So what am I going to need to bring to the dance to get the most out
> of this sim?

> I dropped out of the Beta a loooong time ago from cancer, and while
> things are much better (still alive, obviously) I really haven't kept
> my computer up to bleeding edge.
> I have a p4 3Gig Extreme with 2 gigs of Ram, and I will be getting a
> new video card (maybe) if these bare bones will work. If not, then I
> am going to wait and build a new system.

> I really feel this is the type of game/sim I want now. Not just
> because it is very local for me with Legends, Modifieds, and Late
> Models. But as someone who beta tested and played Motor City Online, I
> have always wanted a "serious" type of racing MMO, and this looks to
> be it.

> btgoss

Depending on how recent you were testing,you can probably get by with
what you have.I was on it today and the new updates from IRacing
increased my fps from 83 to 172. I will say the graphics are
outstanding,car feel is excellent,the racing I have done in testing has
been fun except it seems to use the old papy net code.Not really sure
tho,but the ARCA sim seems much better in it's online code.Thats the
only negative I found in testing.If the pricing and structure are
something you can live with,then by all means go for it,you won't be
disapointed.
==--=

iRacing = crack in a box

by ==--= » Sun, 08 Jun 2008 07:39:58

I'm really lucky then.........

I get points 1 THROUGH 5 -inclusive- completely satisfied in the leagues I
am in now  (rFactor)

And my cost PER month, PER car, PER track - ZERO (or PRICELESS)

;)

You're absolutely right Larry, it (iRacing) is not for everyone.
It's going to be interesting to see how it develops.

==--==


> Valid points.  And exactly why I like the idea.

> If I'm being honest, I...

> 1.  Am tired of online crash fests.
> 2.  Truly, TRULY sick of the whole mod thing.  Really, I am.  I just wanna
> race these days without all that nonsense.
> 3.  Love the idea of a centralized scoring system.
> 4.  Love the idea of people racing under their REAL names.
> 5.  People being responsible for their actions.

> And a bunch more.

> -Larry



>> There is a lot more and lot less to it compared to other sims.  How you
>> see the glass will impact who joins.  The sim community is traditionally
>> an open varied community with a lot of small groups doing varied things,
>> with open mods, group leagues, custom tracks, add-ons, etc.  iRacing is
>> none of that as I understand it.  iRacing is more about regimented
>> organized racing on a grand scale with a central rules board running all
>> aspects, which has both good and bad aspects.

>> Time will tell how it goes, but I personally think the pricing plus
>> strict rules and dictated racing divisions may turn a lot away from it.



>>> Then it's not for you Jack.  No problem.  It's not expected to be for
>>> everyone.

>>> However, your post completely side-steps the community, competition and
>>> other aspects of iRacing.  There is a lot more to it than comparing the
>>> sim itself against sim xxxxxx.

>>> -Larry





>>>>>> ***es better prepare yourself, simracing is back.

>>>>> I've still got my fingers crossed that I'll hate it. I've almost given
>>>>> up
>>>>> *** completely, and the 'beast' down the desk hasn't been switched
>>>>> on
>>>>> for weeks. Actually it might nearly be months.

>>>>> It sounds like I'd better start filtering out any message with iRacing
>>>>> in
>>>>> it, just in case anyone starts calling it GPL2. :-)

>>>>> Andrew McP

>>>> Well I have been testing it about a month,I don't think I'll be
>>>> subscribing after release.Yea ,it's good but not sure it's that much
>>>> better than the other racing sims that are out there now.At least not
>>>> good enough to justify the pricing to me.

House Of The White Ros

iRacing = crack in a box

by House Of The White Ros » Sun, 08 Jun 2008 07:55:07


So they made you make this post to get your free copy of iRacing, huh?

House Of The White Ros

iRacing = crack in a box

by House Of The White Ros » Sun, 08 Jun 2008 07:56:33



Thanks for being honest, unlike the other sycphantic beta tester.What you
posted is what I suspected all along.

House Of The White Ros

iRacing = crack in a box

by House Of The White Ros » Sun, 08 Jun 2008 07:59:06


Then why didn't you just buy Live For Speed? It has all that you want (real
name is optional) and does't have a monthly subscription fee.


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