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How about a real GOCART sim?

Mark C Dod

How about a real GOCART sim?

by Mark C Dod » Sat, 01 May 1999 04:00:00

Why hasn't anybody produced a real gocart sim with real physics and none
of the arcade type garbage that ealier gocart games suffered from?

Such a game would lend itself well to the type of career mode that Viper
has. You could start  in the lower classes and work you way up to
Supercarts.

The racing would be as close as in TOCA 2 without the need to decrease
the physics realism.

The feedback though a FF Wheel would be brilliant and the sense of speed
should be equally as good.

(Yeah...I finally got to post an on topic message!)

Michael Barlo

How about a real GOCART sim?

by Michael Barlo » Sat, 01 May 1999 04:00:00

    Just down the road a bit is a 1/2 mile paved road coarse built
specifically for 3.5 hp carts.  They are very fun to watch. Unfortunately,
even though the track is all set up for spectators, the only spectators
there are are family members of the drivers.  There's even a very big sign
setup in front of the field on a busy highway. still, no one comes by to
watch.

    My opinion on this is that go-carts are not a big thing.  Again, my
opinion, NASCAR has defined what racing is... BIG, LOUD cars. anything else
is nothing more then kids playing with there matchbox cars.  It's a shame
too, These carts put on an awesome show. Not only from the competition
standpoint, but also in the crash and burn standpoint.  no one has got hurt
in the accidents I've seen but the crashes were spectacular enough that you
swear the drivers are all dead.

    Just my opinion, but, go carts are just not well known enough to be
anything more then a Mario Brothers type of Sim

Mike Barlow


> Why hasn't anybody produced a real gocart sim with real physics and none
> of the arcade type garbage that ealier gocart games suffered from?

> Such a game would lend itself well to the type of career mode that Viper
> has. You could start  in the lower classes and work you way up to
> Supercarts.

> The racing would be as close as in TOCA 2 without the need to decrease
> the physics realism.

> The feedback though a FF Wheel would be brilliant and the sense of speed
> should be equally as good.

> (Yeah...I finally got to post an on topic message!)

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Kenneth Verbur

How about a real GOCART sim?

by Kenneth Verbur » Sat, 01 May 1999 04:00:00

You might want to check out the Release List of Midas Interactive at
http://www.gamesarena.com There aren't much details available, but the title
is there ;)

Kenneth Verburg
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Rob Lloy

How about a real GOCART sim?

by Rob Lloy » Sat, 01 May 1999 04:00:00

What? Thousands of people race go-carts in the US alone. I think the problem
with a go-cart based sim is that there is no high-end exposure. Anyone who
is anyone in formula cars and sports cars started out racing carts. I think
it would be a great idea for a sim. The physiscs model should even be pretty
simple, realtively speaking. There's very little to adjust on a cart.

Rob


>     Just down the road a bit is a 1/2 mile paved road coarse built
> specifically for 3.5 hp carts.  They are very fun to watch. Unfortunately,
> even though the track is all set up for spectators, the only spectators
> there are are family members of the drivers.  There's even a very big sign
> setup in front of the field on a busy highway. still, no one comes by to
> watch.

>     My opinion on this is that go-carts are not a big thing.  Again, my
> opinion, NASCAR has defined what racing is... BIG, LOUD cars. anything
else
> is nothing more then kids playing with there matchbox cars.  It's a shame
> too, These carts put on an awesome show. Not only from the competition
> standpoint, but also in the crash and burn standpoint.  no one has got
hurt
> in the accidents I've seen but the crashes were spectacular enough that
you
> swear the drivers are all dead.

>     Just my opinion, but, go carts are just not well known enough to be
> anything more then a Mario Brothers type of Sim

> Mike Barlow


> > Why hasn't anybody produced a real gocart sim with real physics and none
> > of the arcade type garbage that ealier gocart games suffered from?

> > Such a game would lend itself well to the type of career mode that Viper
> > has. You could start  in the lower classes and work you way up to
> > Supercarts.

> > The racing would be as close as in TOCA 2 without the need to decrease
> > the physics realism.

> > The feedback though a FF Wheel would be brilliant and the sense of speed
> > should be equally as good.

> > (Yeah...I finally got to post an on topic message!)

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Chris Schlette

How about a real GOCART sim?

by Chris Schlette » Sat, 01 May 1999 04:00:00

What about a lawn tractor racing sim? :)  I'm sure the folks in Rockford, IL
would love it. :)


> What? Thousands of people race go-carts in the US alone. I think the
problem
> with a go-cart based sim is that there is no high-end exposure. Anyone who
> is anyone in formula cars and sports cars started out racing carts. I
think
> it would be a great idea for a sim. The physiscs model should even be
pretty
> simple, realtively speaking. There's very little to adjust on a cart.

> Rob



> >     Just down the road a bit is a 1/2 mile paved road coarse built
> > specifically for 3.5 hp carts.  They are very fun to watch.
Unfortunately,
> > even though the track is all set up for spectators, the only spectators
> > there are are family members of the drivers.  There's even a very big
sign
> > setup in front of the field on a busy highway. still, no one comes by to
> > watch.

> >     My opinion on this is that go-carts are not a big thing.  Again, my
> > opinion, NASCAR has defined what racing is... BIG, LOUD cars. anything
> else
> > is nothing more then kids playing with there matchbox cars.  It's a
shame
> > too, These carts put on an awesome show. Not only from the competition
> > standpoint, but also in the crash and burn standpoint.  no one has got
> hurt
> > in the accidents I've seen but the crashes were spectacular enough that
> you
> > swear the drivers are all dead.

> >     Just my opinion, but, go carts are just not well known enough to be
> > anything more then a Mario Brothers type of Sim

> > Mike Barlow


> > > Why hasn't anybody produced a real gocart sim with real physics and
none
> > > of the arcade type garbage that ealier gocart games suffered from?

> > > Such a game would lend itself well to the type of career mode that
Viper
> > > has. You could start  in the lower classes and work you way up to
> > > Supercarts.

> > > The racing would be as close as in TOCA 2 without the need to decrease
> > > the physics realism.

> > > The feedback though a FF Wheel would be brilliant and the sense of
speed
> > > should be equally as good.

> > > (Yeah...I finally got to post an on topic message!)

> > --
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Michael Barlo

How about a real GOCART sim?

by Michael Barlo » Sat, 01 May 1999 04:00:00


> What? Thousands of people race go-carts in the US alone. I think the problem
> with a go-cart based sim is that there is no high-end exposure.

That's what I said!  No real exposure, no advertising, No one in the stands
other then the family members of the drivers.

C-ya on the track..
Mike Barlow

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Robin Lor

How about a real GOCART sim?

by Robin Lor » Sat, 01 May 1999 04:00:00

Whats the point? You may as well go and drive the real things - its the one
motorsport most of us can afford (on an occasional basis)

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>Why hasn't anybody produced a real gocart sim with real physics and none
>of the arcade type garbage that ealier gocart games suffered from?

>Such a game would lend itself well to the type of career mode that Viper
>has. You could start  in the lower classes and work you way up to
>Supercarts.

>The racing would be as close as in TOCA 2 without the need to decrease
>the physics realism.

>The feedback though a FF Wheel would be brilliant and the sense of speed
>should be equally as good.

>(Yeah...I finally got to post an on topic message!)

Graeme Nas

How about a real GOCART sim?

by Graeme Nas » Sat, 01 May 1999 04:00:00

I've still got Microprose's "Virtual Karts" somewhere.... It wasn't a
GPL-level sim (is anything?) but it was an attempt at a "realistic" kart
sim. (i.e not Mario Kart)

It has about 12 different tracks and you could race 3 different types of
kart, and create your own driver to progress through the classes. It
also has pretty funky graphics.

However it's kinda let down by poor menus, a lack of controller options
and karts that behave seriously strangely once they touch the kerb.

In fact I haven't played it for a while... I might reinstall it and have
a go :-)

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A. Markha

How about a real GOCART sim?

by A. Markha » Sat, 01 May 1999 04:00:00

Hello,
    I think a karting sim would be GREAT! I race karts on the WKA National Dirt
Circuit and the National Dirt Events have 700-1000 karts for a two day event.
Karting is huge and the compitition is so tight. A whole field of 30 karts can
be sepeated by just a couple tenths. Since your sitting so low the sense of
speed almost doubles when your flying around the track. This game could be a
big hit becuase so many people can relate to karting unlike driving a NASCAR or
CART car.
Thanks,
Aaron Markham *Kart44*


> Whats the point? You may as well go and drive the real things - its the one
> motorsport most of us can afford (on an occasional basis)

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> >Why hasn't anybody produced a real gocart sim with real physics and none
> >of the arcade type garbage that ealier gocart games suffered from?

> >Such a game would lend itself well to the type of career mode that Viper
> >has. You could start  in the lower classes and work you way up to
> >Supercarts.

> >The racing would be as close as in TOCA 2 without the need to decrease
> >the physics realism.

> >The feedback though a FF Wheel would be brilliant and the sense of speed
> >should be equally as good.

> >(Yeah...I finally got to post an on topic message!)

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TRUSRS

How about a real GOCART sim?

by TRUSRS » Sat, 01 May 1999 04:00:00

I've had that game for 3 years and I must say it is absolutely terrible. The
menu really sux, the setup options are weak, the gameplay is weak, the physics
are weak, and only 2 other opponents really makes for some bad racing.

But on the other hand it actually works on my cpu, so that's a plus.

Douglas Elliso

How about a real GOCART sim?

by Douglas Elliso » Sat, 01 May 1999 04:00:00

In the same way not a lot of people go to watch go-karting (I disagree
however, because here in the UK , Karting is BIG) people don't tend to go an
watch the British Grand Prix of 1967 now-adays...but GPL exists.

If it was done right (GPL style physics) with good tracks and a career mode,
I think it'd be a BIG hit.

Doug


>    Just down the road a bit is a 1/2 mile paved road coarse built
>specifically for 3.5 hp carts.  They are very fun to watch. Unfortunately,
>even though the track is all set up for spectators, the only spectators
>there are are family members of the drivers.  There's even a very big sign
>setup in front of the field on a busy highway. still, no one comes by to
>watch.

>    My opinion on this is that go-carts are not a big thing.  Again, my
>opinion, NASCAR has defined what racing is... BIG, LOUD cars. anything else
>is nothing more then kids playing with there matchbox cars.  It's a shame
>too, These carts put on an awesome show. Not only from the competition
>standpoint, but also in the crash and burn standpoint.  no one has got hurt
>in the accidents I've seen but the crashes were spectacular enough that you
>swear the drivers are all dead.

>    Just my opinion, but, go carts are just not well known enough to be
>anything more then a Mario Brothers type of Sim

>Mike Barlow


>> Why hasn't anybody produced a real gocart sim with real physics and none
>> of the arcade type garbage that ealier gocart games suffered from?

>> Such a game would lend itself well to the type of career mode that Viper
>> has. You could start  in the lower classes and work you way up to
>> Supercarts.

>> The racing would be as close as in TOCA 2 without the need to decrease
>> the physics realism.

>> The feedback though a FF Wheel would be brilliant and the sense of speed
>> should be equally as good.

>> (Yeah...I finally got to post an on topic message!)

>--
>=========================================
>Mike Barlow of Barlow Racing?
>MikeBa on the TEN network.
>Member of R.O.R. 1999
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>=========================================
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ymenar

How about a real GOCART sim?

by ymenar » Sun, 02 May 1999 04:00:00


Wait until you get to 150cc :)

You will want to hit the SNES sometimes after just loosing the cup by 1
point because Luigi beat you to the finish line by 0.01second (it happened
to me hehe).  I always liked to powerslide off the corners (it's a technique
where you jump, turn in the air and exit the corner with the same momentum
as entering it).

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Robin Lor

How about a real GOCART sim?

by Robin Lor » Mon, 03 May 1999 04:00:00

I always thought Street Racer was fun on the SNES. Might have to dig that
out sometime, if only for the annoyingly catchy music.

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>>Hey ! Don't dis Mario Kart. >
>Oh, I wasn't! I -love- Mario Kart..... After I got it, it never came out
>of the cartridge slot of my SNES. It still saddens me today that I never
>won the top championship (the one with rainbow road etc...)

>I always used to drive with Koopa and I was never beaten in Multiplayer,
>especially battle mode :-)

>>LOL ! :-P    another fan I see (look at my *.sig)
>Cool! I have every book :-)

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TRUSRS

How about a real GOCART sim?

by TRUSRS » Mon, 03 May 1999 04:00:00

Oh my.......I remember those days.  I had a 1 mb video card, 2X CD-ROM drive,
and only a mouse. The game was practically impossible to play.

pyt..

How about a real GOCART sim?

by pyt.. » Mon, 03 May 1999 04:00:00

On Fri, 30 Apr 1999 08:36:53 -0500, "Rob Lloyd"


>What? Thousands of people race go-carts in the US alone.

That's just the problem. Why sim what anyone can do for real. It would
be like simulating making a cup of tea. If you want to drive go karts,
go to your local track. If you want to drive an F1 car, you need a
sim.

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