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Matrox Millennium to a 3Dfx upgrade

Rod11101

Matrox Millennium to a 3Dfx upgrade

by Rod11101 » Sun, 28 Dec 1997 04:00:00

I've got an old Matrox Millennium card, with 2Mb of WRAM, that I purchased over
a year ago. I would like to make it 3Dfx compatible without having to buy a
whole new card. I know that there are upgrade cards that work in conjunction
with it. Matrox makes one, but is it the best choice? Does anyone have any
reccomendations on which one to purchase? Sorry if this is a repost, but I'm
new here.

Thanks in advance
Rod

Luke Phillip

Matrox Millennium to a 3Dfx upgrade

by Luke Phillip » Sun, 28 Dec 1997 04:00:00

sure, all you haveto do, is get a saw out and cut off the current chip, buy
a 3dfx card and cut off those chips too and glue them onto the matrox. Works
great for me, i've acheived framerates above anything else available, and it
looks as good as sega's model 3. Good luck

    Regards,
                    Luke Phillips

Michael Concin

Matrox Millennium to a 3Dfx upgrade

by Michael Concin » Sun, 28 Dec 1997 04:00:00

Go buy a Monster 3D, Righteous 3D, or a Pure 3D card.  Install it into a
free PCI slot, hook the monitor cable to the 3D card, hook the passthrough
cable from your Millenium to the 3D card in the back, power up, install
drivers when requested, and prepare to smile.

Mike


Michael S. Davi

Matrox Millennium to a 3Dfx upgrade

by Michael S. Davi » Sun, 28 Dec 1997 04:00:00


> I've got an old Matrox Millennium card, with 2Mb of WRAM, that I purchased over
> a year ago. I would like to make it 3Dfx compatible without having to buy a
> whole new card. I know that there are upgrade cards that work in conjunction
> with it. Matrox makes one, but is it the best choice? Does anyone have any
> reccomendations on which one to purchase? Sorry if this is a repost, but I'm
> new here.

> Thanks in advance
> Rod

Rod,
        the Millennium is a super card for 2D/DOS work. That said AFAIK Matrox
does not make a daughter card with a 3dfx chip. What you may be thinking
of is the cards that interface with the Mystique to do video capture and
TV tuning. Stay away from the new M3D card, it's next to useless. Just
calling a card 3D does not a 3D make. Not that you have a problem, you
have a good card to start with, a 3dfx add-on card is not going to have
any problem living happily alongside the Matrox as long as you have an
available PCI slot. Also, many of the Millennium cards have a slot to
add extra VRAM, prices are low right now, you may want to upgrade your
card to 4meg. Most of the modern games really need a 4meg card to work
right and now the 3dfx add-on card has become the de-facto standard in
the industry. Prices have come down alot on the 3dfx cards and they all
use the same Voodoo chip, find one cheap and slam it in, you won't
believe your eyes.
        All the best, Mike Davis
--
Michael S. Davis
Creative Media-Works
Computer/Audio/Video Convergence
"from Creative minds spring Creative solutions."
http://www.creativemedia-works.com


Neil Yeatma

Matrox Millennium to a 3Dfx upgrade

by Neil Yeatma » Sun, 28 Dec 1997 04:00:00


> I've got an old Matrox Millennium card, with 2Mb of WRAM, that I purchased over
> a year ago. I would like to make it 3Dfx compatible without having to buy a
> whole new card. I know that there are upgrade cards that work in conjunction
> with it. Matrox makes one, but is it the best choice? Does anyone have any
> reccomendations on which one to purchase? Sorry if this is a repost, but I'm
> new here.

You only need a free PCI slot to add a 3Dfx card.  It's an add-on card.
No modifications are required to your Matrox card.  The 3Dfx (any
brand, just make sure it says *3Dfx* on the box) card comes with a
pass-thru connector cable to plug from the Matrox (or any other 2d or
2d/3d combo card) into the 3D card.  Your monitor plugs into the 3D
card only.

--

Neil Yeatman          
Ajax, Ontario, CANADA

Rob

Matrox Millennium to a 3Dfx upgrade

by Rob » Mon, 29 Dec 1997 04:00:00

The Matrox m3D is NOT 'next to useless'. Let's be sensible and objective
here.

I have a Millennium II 4MB and I added an m3D and now 3D games fly, with
superb 3D acceleration effects. What's more I can run games like Jedi, Turok
Dinosaur Hunter, Quake, Quake II, Tomb Raider etc in 1024x768 with no
discernible loss in performance. In the UK, the Matrox m3D is half the price
of a Monster 3D. True, 3DFX has the greater support at the moment, but
PowerVR (PCX2) has only been around a few months and its support isgrowing
fast. Games written for powerVR are every bit as good as the 3DFX versions
in quality and speed (if you have at least a P166). The point is that there
IS a choice.



>> I've got an old Matrox Millennium card, with 2Mb of WRAM, that I
purchased over
>> a year ago. I would like to make it 3Dfx compatible without having to buy
a
>> whole new card. I know that there are upgrade cards that work in
conjunction
>> with it. Matrox makes one, but is it the best choice? Does anyone have
any
>> reccomendations on which one to purchase? Sorry if this is a repost, but
I'm
>> new here.

>> Thanks in advance
>> Rod
>Rod,
> the Millennium is a super card for 2D/DOS work. That said AFAIK Matrox
>does not make a daughter card with a 3dfx chip. What you may be thinking
>of is the cards that interface with the Mystique to do video capture and
>TV tuning. Stay away from the new M3D card, it's next to useless. Just
>calling a card 3D does not a 3D make. Not that you have a problem, you
>have a good card to start with, a 3dfx add-on card is not going to have
>any problem living happily alongside the Matrox as long as you have an
>available PCI slot. Also, many of the Millennium cards have a slot to
>add extra VRAM, prices are low right now, you may want to upgrade your
>card to 4meg. Most of the modern games really need a 4meg card to work
>right and now the 3dfx add-on card has become the de-facto standard in
>the industry. Prices have come down alot on the 3dfx cards and they all
>use the same Voodoo chip, find one cheap and slam it in, you won't
>believe your eyes.
> All the best, Mike Davis
>--
>Michael S. Davis
>Creative Media-Works
>Computer/Audio/Video Convergence
>"from Creative minds spring Creative solutions."
>http://www.creativemedia-works.com



Richard Freedma

Matrox Millennium to a 3Dfx upgrade

by Richard Freedma » Tue, 30 Dec 1997 04:00:00


Here Here!

Ed Reynol

Matrox Millennium to a 3Dfx upgrade

by Ed Reynol » Thu, 01 Jan 1998 04:00:00

See my recent post titled "Performance Report: Diamond Monster 3D vs Matrox
m3D"...  I just went thru what you trying to do.  You want the Diamond
Monster3D....  the Matrox m3D is a feeble performer.  Email me if you want
the particulars.

Regards,
Ed Reynolds



>> I've got an old Matrox Millennium card, with 2Mb of WRAM, that I purchased
over
>> a year ago. I would like to make it 3Dfx compatible without having to buy a
>> whole new card. I know that there are upgrade cards that work in conjunction
>> with it. Matrox makes one, but is it the best choice? Does anyone have any
>> reccomendations on which one to purchase? Sorry if this is a repost, but I'm
>> new here.

>You only need a free PCI slot to add a 3Dfx card.  It's an add-on card.
>No modifications are required to your Matrox card.  The 3Dfx (any
>brand, just make sure it says *3Dfx* on the box) card comes with a
>pass-thru connector cable to plug from the Matrox (or any other 2d or
>2d/3d combo card) into the 3D card.  Your monitor plugs into the 3D
>card only.

>--

>Neil Yeatman          
>Ajax, Ontario, CANADA

Ed Reynol

Matrox Millennium to a 3Dfx upgrade

by Ed Reynol » Thu, 01 Jan 1998 04:00:00


says...



>>The Matrox m3D is NOT 'next to useless'. Let's be sensible and objective
>>here.

>Here Here!

Well, for my money, an extra $60 USD is well worth a two-fold increase in 3D
performance.

Regards,
Ed

Michael S. Davi

Matrox Millennium to a 3Dfx upgrade

by Michael S. Davi » Sat, 03 Jan 1998 04:00:00


> The Matrox m3D is NOT 'next to useless'. Let's be sensible and objective
> here.

> I have a Millennium II 4MB and I added an m3D and now 3D games fly, with
> superb 3D acceleration effects. What's more I can run games like Jedi, Turok
> Dinosaur Hunter, Quake, Quake II, Tomb Raider etc in 1024x768 with no
> discernible loss in performance. In the UK, the Matrox m3D is half the price
> of a Monster 3D. True, 3DFX has the greater support at the moment, but
> PowerVR (PCX2) has only been around a few months and its support isgrowing
> fast. Games written for powerVR are every bit as good as the 3DFX versions
> in quality and speed (if you have at least a P166). The point is that there
> IS a choice.



> >> I've got an old Matrox Millennium card, with 2Mb of WRAM, that I
> purchased over
> >> a year ago. I would like to make it 3Dfx compatible without having to buy
> a
> >> whole new card. I know that there are upgrade cards that work in
> conjunction
> >> with it. Matrox makes one, but is it the best choice? Does anyone have
> any
> >> reccomendations on which one to purchase? Sorry if this is a repost, but
> I'm
> >> new here.

> >> Thanks in advance
> >> Rod
> >Rod,
> > the Millennium is a super card for 2D/DOS work. That said AFAIK Matrox
> >does not make a daughter card with a 3dfx chip. What you may be thinking
> >of is the cards that interface with the Mystique to do video capture and
> >TV tuning. Stay away from the new M3D card, it's next to useless. Just
> >calling a card 3D does not a 3D make. Not that you have a problem, you
> >have a good card to start with, a 3dfx add-on card is not going to have
> >any problem living happily alongside the Matrox as long as you have an
> >available PCI slot. Also, many of the Millennium cards have a slot to
> >add extra VRAM, prices are low right now, you may want to upgrade your
> >card to 4meg. Most of the modern games really need a 4meg card to work
> >right and now the 3dfx add-on card has become the de-facto standard in
> >the industry. Prices have come down alot on the 3dfx cards and they all
> >use the same Voodoo chip, find one cheap and slam it in, you won't
> >believe your eyes.
> > All the best, Mike Davis
> >--
> >Michael S. Davis
> >Creative Media-Works
> >Computer/Audio/Video Convergence
> >"from Creative minds spring Creative solutions."
> >http://www.creativemedia-works.com



--
Michael S. Davis
Creative Media-Works
Computer/Audio/Video Convergence
"from Creative minds spring Creative solutions."
http://www.creativemedia-works.com


Guys,
        I left the entire post intact so what I said could be put in
perspective. I said the Matrox M3D is "next to useless." Here in the
States that statement is entirely true. 3dfx cards are way too cheap to
waste your hard earned cash on something like a PowerVR card. I also
said the original Millenium's are super cards, they still are, I ran an
8meg for years when they were the hottest thing around. The point is I
hate to see somebody buy a product that will get by, when it's only a
small amount more to get something really special, like 3dfx cards. I
realize prices are high in the UK. I was there this time last year and I
know what things cost. Heck, most of us have no idea what the really hot
stuff even looks like, or costs like. At work I use a 500mhz Alpha that
runs both a Intergraph Intense 3D Pro 1000 128bit 20meg OpenGL video
card _and_ a Quantum 3D Obsidian 100 SB video card. The Quantum has only
16megs of SDRAM onboard, but it does have 4 3dfx chipsets. The price of
those two cards alone would buy a pretty decent 'puter. Now quite your
complaining, please, everybody knows that performance costs money. I
just don't like to see people make the wrong choice because then three
months down the road you will be saying "Why didn't I buy the 3dfx
card?"
        All the best, Mike Davis

DPHI

Matrox Millennium to a 3Dfx upgrade

by DPHI » Sun, 04 Jan 1998 04:00:00

months down the road you will be saying "Why didn't I buy the 3dfx  card?"
        All the best, Mike Davis<

Mike,

I wish I had found this news group before I plopped down my $$ for the m3d,
what a pile....You can bet I'll do a lot more research before anymore
updates...then again the Monster 3d/4mb/3dfx is in this mornings paper for
$149.00 , and it's raining outside and I have nothing else to do today....

don


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