rec.autos.simulators

by **Rob Swindel** » Mon, 05 Jul 1999 04:00:00

I doing a championship season at Novice with 5 opponents. (I only have a P200
MMX, 32 Mbs). I am using only the default setups and can run with the AI quite
easily. The first two races of the season, Kyalami and Monaco I have very
little track time of, but after a week of running at Monaco, I got down to a
1:30. That's a lovely circuit... Kyalami I didn't do so much lapping, so was
really off the pace all the time. I think speed comes from practice, practice
and practice only. Maybe a setup can eek another second but that's for hot
lappers, and they can keep it. I'm perfectly happy driving the wheels off my
Lotus... much more satisfying that way, don't you think? Knowing your best
laptime is all you.

I just did the 3rd race at Zanvoort (1:28.08!!!!!! :-) got myself on pole, got
a bad start raced hard and came out of the final turn on lap 5/8 challenging
for 2nd when my camshaft went :-(

I should have won that race, but I keep destroying my engine. The same thing
happened on the 2nd lap at Monaco last week. It's very frustrating. Is it me?
Or is it just the horrific reliability of the Lotus-Cosworth? I had no problems
at Kyalami, and completed the race to finish 6th and last :))

BTW, I don't suppose there's a HotLap league for default setups is there???

Rob Swindells
4th in Goldline Bearing FFord Championship (12 Points);
8 points behined Championship Leader (as of round 3 of 6)

by **drbo..** » Mon, 05 Jul 1999 04:00:00

If you want to stay satisfied that way, do not, under any
circumstances, try the setups by Alison Hines (particularly the
Ferrari :-). They remove the artificial difficulties you find so
satisfying now and make the game more realistic.

bob

by **Rob Swindel** » Mon, 05 Jul 1999 04:00:00

the game more realistic.<<

Is 'realistic' really the correct word? A setup makes you quicker, allows you
to drive the car comfortably, but to make the sim more realistic? Naaah, you
can't surely mean that?

I just like driving, reacting to the car's behaviour. There's probably a
technical name for this, but I love the situation, particularly at Zanvoort
where you can turn the car on the throttle, for example those last two turns,
and coming over the brow after the second hairpin. Know what I mean? This is
what I enjoy and what I belive helps me to drive quikly in FFords...

Rob Swindells
4th in Goldline Bearing FFord Championship (12 Points);
8 points behined Championship Leader (as of round 3 of 6)

by **drbo..** » Mon, 05 Jul 1999 04:00:00

Actually, yes. To be informative, rather than snide, Alison
discovered that the cars were frequently hitting the bump stops,
raising the wheel rates to very high levels, causing snap oversteer.
See her website for a better explanation. While you can correct,
it's hardly realistic. In fact, the fact that you can correct is what
is artificial. Realistically, hitting 1967 style bump stops would
instantly put you off the track if you were already at the limit. In
fact running a GPL car totally on the bump stops (one inch ride
height, one inch bump stops) is now arguably the fastest setup,
although bizarrely unrealistic.

Alisons' setups, particularly for the Ferrari, keep you off
the bump stops. You still have the low traction limits, the throttle
attitude control, the need to meld braking, accelerating, and turning
precisely, and everything else you like, but no unrealistic snap
oversteer. It is thus both easier to drive and more realistic.

The unrealism derives from the fact that GPL, as wonderful as
it is, still doesn't model track bumps and bump response
realistically. Alison's setups have pretty high one wheel bump rates
themselves, probably useful only because of the modeling issue.
Papyrus has recognized the problem and, as a crutch, they are going to
raise the minimum car heights in the forthcoming patch. The real
solution is to improve the modeling to make realistic setups the
fastest setups.

BTW, I also drove FF, although only for a few races. Most of
my ten year "career" was in Showroom Stock.

bob

by **Dan Belch** » Tue, 06 Jul 1999 04:00:00

You do lift off the gas when you shift, don't you?

Dan Belcher
Team Racing Unlimited

by **Michael Goldstei** » Tue, 06 Jul 1999 04:00:00

I also Get a few engine blowups now and then
but i almost always feel that it is my fault (a missed throttle Lift on the
shift) or just plain old over reving on a long straight.But that is just me.
there are so many cool ways to setup the cars that i am sure that (For Me)
it is just a matter of a couple of incidents of over-reving that can cause
the blow-ups, I havent had too many incidents of engine failure that were
not related to some kind of Failure on my part either in the driving or the
setup. BTW i am aware that there is a case to be made for random engine
failure, but i have been the cause of 90% or more of my own engine failures,
sometimes it does not blowup right away after an over rev but will chug
along for awhile and then suddenly let go at a time when i thought i was not
over reving the motor.
Kewl Game Though Lots Of Good Newsgroup Discussions About GPL make It one of
the most Fun And interesting Games around

Robocat

>>I should have won that race, but I keep destroying my engine. The same
thing
>>happened on the 2nd lap at Monaco last week. It's very frustrating. Is it
me?
>>Or is it just the horrific reliability of the Lotus-Cosworth? I had no
>>problems
>>at Kyalami, and completed the race to finish 6th and last :))

>You do lift off the gas when you shift, don't you?

>Dan Belcher
>Team Racing Unlimited

rec.autos.simulators

GPL: Default Setups are great!

GPL: Default Setups are great!

GPL: Default Setups are great!

GPL: Default Setups are great!

GPL: Default Setups are great!

GPL: Default Setups are great!

GPL: Default Setups are great!