rec.autos.simulators

There is no need for something to be radioactive in order to cause
cancer. In any case, as you know the warheads use Uranium-238 which is a
"fertile" isotope, converting readily to (radioactive) plutonium, or to
(radioactive) uranium oxide (the problem in Iraq)

- The Iraqi people didn't allow themselves to be represented by the
Ba'ath party - the CIA put them there and the people had no choice. Now
the US took him away and put someone else there - if I was an Iraqi I
ight be more than a little concerned that he would also upset them, and
a load of us would get slaughtered again in the sake of our own freedom.

Read about George Kennan, read about Zbigniew Brzezinski. If you don't
understand the people to whom your government listens, how can their
actions be interpreted?

Mitch

NOTHING to do with a so-called freedom that

Marty

http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0705-05.htm

They've been bombed by the US, starved by the US, then bombed again by
the US. They were told a pack of lies about needing to die because they
had WMDs, they had WMDs used against them and are dying of cancer, and
we expect them to be happy when we say "trust us, it'll all be okay".

As for the freedom, it comes with strings - embrace also the US
free-market economics. Aka, drop your pants and bend over. Look what it
did to Indonesia, look at Argentina and Brazil, look at Russia - these
countries were financially***d by us when their markets were opened.
Is it any wonder they question the desirability of our "freedom".

Let's be clear, Saddam was a monster, but if we're getting all misty
eyed about the "choice" we're giving the Iraqis, let's actually give
THEM the choice.

Later.  I won't answer any more of your posts HERE

Randy

Randy

   Rather, no WMD = umpopular war.  The violation of the Cease Fire
agreements signed after the first Gulf war were all the justification the
USA needed to launch an attack.  In addition, the failure to comply with a
whole mess of UN resolutions also gave grounds for war.  Finally did not
the UN itself authorize force with numerous security council resolutions
<what does "serious consequences" mean?  Spanking Sadam?>?  Granted the so-
called final authority was never voted on, but prior votes and resolutions
more than authorized the ***.  
  I find it curious that the supposedly bankrupt state of Iraq, cruelly
suffering at the hands of UN and thus US sanctions since we all know the
USA runs the UN thus the US could ask and receive the final vote at any
time and the result would be a unanimous result, could not feed it's
people, yet could build dozens of gold lavatoried castles for Sadam.  I
also find it curious that the countries opposed to the 'final
authorization' vote also were countries that seemed to be on the receiving
end of the oil for food bribes.   I find it odd that close to 10BILLION $$
managed to end up, not in the mouths of starving Iraqi children, but the
pockets of French, Russian, & German & Iraqi businessmen and diplomats
(strangely enough, Haliburton seems to have not enjoyed that windfall).  I
find it curious that despite UN weapons sanctions, French and Russian
weapons of recent purchase were found inside Iraq.    I find it odd that
Momar Kadafi suddenly became a scaredy-cat.  I find it confusing that the
people of Lebannon found their voice after years of Syrian occupation or
Egypt allowing democratic voting or even the real enemy, Saudi Arabi
agreeing to <Shudder> local elections!!  .  I find it merely convienant
that the country located next to Iraq during the years and years of hide
and seek between the Iraqi goverment and the UN weapons inspectors,  also
shared a similar Bathist goverment.  I find it downright odd how many
Iraqis are still being killed by those who are neither American nor Iraqi
themselves.  I further find it confusing that of close to 2 dozen armed
conflicts currently simmering around the globe...nearly all include Muslims
as one of the armed combatants.  Surely the Muslims of Khasmir do not fight
for the Palestinians?  Do the Muslims of Sri Lanka *** children to breed
fighters so they can liberate Palestine?  Do the Muslim Arabs of Sudan
practice genocide upon Black Sudanese for the defense of Islam or the
aquistion of the Sudanese oil fields?  Do the Muslim fighters of the
Phillipines care one whit about Israel's continued existance?  Do the
Muslim extremists bombing in Malaysia take an oath to defend the
Palestinians?  Do the Muslim Chechans stand and fight and bomb and kill and
stab Russian school children merely to call attention to the suffering of
the poor poor Palestinians?  Did the Palestinian leaders and widow of
Arafat fight over the estate of poor ol Yasser for the few mere pennies he
accrued leading one of the poorest non-states in the world, or was he rich
beyond the wealth of all his people combined?  

    See John...I told ya I can be paranoid...

dave henrie

    Like dago democracy seeks to con the people into thinking they get a say
in things down at the ballot box, the U.N. creates the illusion that a body
other than the U.S. is running the show here on earth - big jokes these.

    Mostly, the U.N. is a U.S. puppet but the U.S. has demonstrated that
their approval is only nice, not neccessary. It's pointless to refer to
people as criminals when you simply don't have the power to arrest them.

If you want a perfect example of sensationalist, completely false
reporting from the BBC, check out their top story on Condoleezza Rice
at the 9/11 inquiry.  They painted her up to be satan's first born,
completely ignoring anything resembling 'fact'.