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need hardware advice..

Cris Eichle

need hardware advice..

by Cris Eichle » Wed, 07 Sep 2005 15:37:54

Hi,

ok, even though this means re-activating XP afterwards, i finally decided to
look for a new graphic card. So lret's say i have about 200 Euros as my
absolute spending limit, which card should i go for? Most important to me is
performance in sims, of course :-)

TIA

cheers!

/ce

shegeek7

need hardware advice..

by shegeek7 » Wed, 07 Sep 2005 16:09:51


> ok, even though this means re-activating XP afterwards, i finally decided to
> look for a new graphic card. So lret's say i have about 200 Euros as my
> absolute spending limit, which card should i go for? Most important to me is
> performance in sims, of course :-)

My advice would be to search the internet for the best card at the best
price, either ATI or nVidia. That's how I got my ATI 9800 pro.

Does swapping a vid card require one to re-activate Win XP? I thought
it took more hardware changes than that.

SG
--
"Politics gives guys so much power that they tend to behave badly
around women. And I hope I never get into that." - Bill Clinton

Praxiteles Democritu

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by Praxiteles Democritu » Wed, 07 Sep 2005 17:21:30


It does take more than just swapping a video card. I've never been
flagged for swapping a video card, or even a cpu and ram for that
matter.

To the OP, for $159.00 you can get yourself a  eVGA E-GEFORCE 6600GT
128M DDR3 AGP8X VGA DVI HD OUT VIDEO CARD.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130220

Shrapne

need hardware advice..

by Shrapne » Thu, 08 Sep 2005 00:56:25

I once put a hard disc from a P3-800Mhz into a Twin P4 Xeon with
different...  Well... Everything.

XP just plugged and played and did not ask for re-activation.

tbh, I was not aware such a feature was in XP at all, and being in the
industry I might have heard.

Jon.



> >Does swapping a vid card require one to re-activate Win XP? I thought
> >it took more hardware changes than that.

> >SG

> It does take more than just swapping a video card. I've never been
> flagged for swapping a video card, or even a cpu and ram for that
> matter.

> To the OP, for $159.00 you can get yourself a  eVGA E-GEFORCE 6600GT
> 128M DDR3 AGP8X VGA DVI HD OUT VIDEO CARD.
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130220

Andi Col

need hardware advice..

by Andi Col » Thu, 08 Sep 2005 03:56:14

Oh, yes it does exist, I built a PC with RAID 0 then decided to change to
RAID 1, Windows failed to reactivate and I had to phone MS. All that
happened was that I entered the key and a 'robot' read back an unlock code.
Never spoke to a real person and no sign of being quizzed as to ownership of
Windows.

Andi.


>I once put a hard disc from a P3-800Mhz into a Twin P4 Xeon with
> different...  Well... Everything.

> XP just plugged and played and did not ask for re-activation.

> tbh, I was not aware such a feature was in XP at all, and being in the
> industry I might have heard.

> Jon.




>> >Does swapping a vid card require one to re-activate Win XP? I thought
>> >it took more hardware changes than that.

>> >SG

>> It does take more than just swapping a video card. I've never been
>> flagged for swapping a video card, or even a cpu and ram for that
>> matter.

>> To the OP, for $159.00 you can get yourself a  eVGA E-GEFORCE 6600GT
>> 128M DDR3 AGP8X VGA DVI HD OUT VIDEO CARD.
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130220

Bob

need hardware advice..

by Bob » Thu, 08 Sep 2005 04:14:35

For that price (or maybe a touch more), I really like my 6800GT.  ATI
has a comparable card (X800XL).
Goy Larse

need hardware advice..

by Goy Larse » Thu, 08 Sep 2005 04:37:36


> I once put a hard disc from a P3-800Mhz into a Twin P4 Xeon with
> different...  Well... Everything.

> XP just plugged and played and did not ask for re-activation.

> tbh, I was not aware such a feature was in XP at all, and being in the
> industry I might have heard.

Like Andi said, it's there, my guess is that you're using a "volume
license" and those doesn't require activation at all for very good
reasons, but it's there in the OEM, Retail and Upgrade packages

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy

"When two or more people are gathered together in my name,
they shall perform the Parrot Sketch..."

--Our Lord John Cleese--

Larr

need hardware advice..

by Larr » Fri, 09 Sep 2005 02:19:10

You probably won't have to re-activate.

I recently upgraded (there's an understatement) my Home Server and changed
the following:

1.  Replaced System Board and Processor.
2.  Removed 7 old hard drives of varying sizes.
3.  Installed a 3Ware 9500S-8 Hardware RAID Card (SATA).
4.  Installed 6 new (one as a hot spare) Seagate 300GB Barracuda's set up as
a 1.5 Terabyte RAID-5.
5.  Installed new 120GB Seagate Barracuda PATA Boot/OS drive.

Reinstalled Windows Server 2003 Enterprise, and activated.  It didn't
complain one bit.

If I can get away with that, you should be able to get away with a graphics
card replacement :)

-Larry


Larr

need hardware advice..

by Larr » Fri, 09 Sep 2005 03:30:41

It's also in certian other packages that are non-corporate, yet non-consumer
as well.

MSDN, Action Pack, etc...

-Larry


Praxiteles Democritu

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by Praxiteles Democritu » Fri, 09 Sep 2005 03:49:37


Both those cards cost more than 200 euros I believe. They are about
$300.00 USD which is 241.666 EUR. But I agree, he should fork out the
extra money and go for either 6800GT or X800XL.

Don

need hardware advice..

by Don » Fri, 09 Sep 2005 13:33:33



>>I once put a hard disc from a P3-800Mhz into a Twin P4 Xeon with
>>different...  Well... Everything.

>>XP just plugged and played and did not ask for re-activation.

>>tbh, I was not aware such a feature was in XP at all, and being in the
>>industry I might have heard.

> Like Andi said, it's there, my guess is that you're using a "volume
> license" and those doesn't require activation at all for very good
> reasons, but it's there in the OEM, Retail and Upgrade packages

> Beers and cheers
> (uncle) Goy

> "When two or more people are gathered together in my name,
> they shall perform the Parrot Sketch..."

> --Our Lord John Cleese--

Actually it's NOT in the "retail" versions. The OEM versions allow
(supposedly) 6 "hardware changes." Now, these are typically sound card,
video card, hard drive, etc. changes, but can be anything that doesn't
checksum the same as it was when XP was installed. The Retail versions
(full and upgrade) don't have this limitation. Microsoft was ensuring
that their OEM's wouldn't install the same copy of XP on different
machines - since XP WILL activate more than once (I think 3 is the limit
before you have to phone MS).

Gunner

Dave Henri

need hardware advice..

by Dave Henri » Fri, 09 Sep 2005 15:32:43



   Well my retail install ***ed when I replaced the motherboard and cpu.
I had to call up some hindu and explain that the harddrive was still there,
the ram was the same but the cpu, mb and ...oh yeah...the new video card
were the only changes.   Got a new number.  I'm leaning towards a ram
increase soon.  Probably have to do it all over again.

dave henrie

Goy Larse

need hardware advice..

by Goy Larse » Fri, 09 Sep 2005 22:55:07


> Actually it's NOT in the "retail" versions. <snip>

Hmm, I could have sworn it was in the retail versions as well, but since
I deal with OEM versions 99% of the time and seem to be developing an
"Alzheimer's Light" I'm not going to insist on it :)

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy

"The Pits"    http://www.theuspits.com/

"When two or more people are gathered together in my name,
they shall perform the Parrot Sketch..."

--Our Lord John Cleese--

PlowBo

need hardware advice..

by PlowBo » Fri, 16 Sep 2005 01:55:26

LOL no you wont...  heheheh
PlowBo

need hardware advice..

by PlowBo » Fri, 16 Sep 2005 01:57:55

If the 40 euros stops ya, I like my 6600gt enough.  similiar speeds as my
older ti4600 ill admit, but with more turned on, and dx8&9, so it is not all
bad.  If Id had the 400 bucks I would love to have bought the 6800gt, but my
god man, my motherboard-ram-cpu was only about 450...

Praxiteles Democritus enlightened us with:


>> For that price (or maybe a touch more), I really like my 6800GT.  ATI
>> has a comparable card (X800XL).

> Both those cards cost more than 200 euros I believe. They are about
> $300.00 USD which is 241.666 EUR. But I agree, he should fork out the
> extra money and go for either 6800GT or X800XL.


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