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I read a post not too long ago about a GPL'er finally going under the 1:30
barrier. Thought I could never get there but tonight after warming up on
Kyalami I thought I'd try out a saved race from pole. All went pretty well,
dropped to 2nd and spent the whole race in consistent 1:30's. Felt a bit
emtpy only finishing second, but as the race was over I had to do the whole
qualifying thing again. So off I went and after bumbling around in the
1:31's I did a lap I reckoned was pretty much the same only to find I pulled
out a 1:29:65!!! ***y marvellous (swiftly fell off the track after getting
the pit board due to celebratory leaping round my bedroom). The small things
always make us happy don't they.

I think it is all down to trail-braking into Lesmos 1 & 2. I always seem to
make time on the AI cars there. Sure enough, after looking at the replays it
is the only real difference from my previous PB of 1:30:23. Curve Grande may
have made a bit of a difference to, I can't see how so much time can be
gained in two corners. Not a hint of rail riding either.

Still think I can brake later into the parabolica though ;-)

Bring on the 'Ring! That's next on the list for sure! (is it bollocks)

speedracer

Chris

Congratulations,

Marc.

// Johan

Same for me! I struggled around in the low 29's, unable to break into
the 28's. I couldn't break any later at any corner without f***ing up
the lap so I fired up  SpyGirl to see where I lost the time. And it were
the exits! Because of my _nearly_ too late breaking I wasn't able to
drive a smooth line round the corner. I always hit the apex too late and
couldn't step on the gas for I was fighting the car to come around. So I
tried to break earlier, drive a clean line and tap on the gas as early
as possible. Within 5 laps I was in the 28's, with a PB of 1:28.30 up to
now.
Conclusion: Trailbreaking is important, but don't overcook it!

Regards
Crash
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http://www.crashmania.de

P.S.: Sorry for my bad English!

c schrieb:

  Heh...  I got my first sub 1:30 at Monza in the Ferrari recently.  I
was soooo pleased.  (Tho' I'm a bit worried because it was 1.1 online
and I think there are timing issues there - but I have got nearly the
same times offline racing).  I can now do sub 1:30 at Monza in the Lotus
with not much bother.  I just find it hard to believe that there's
another 2-3 seconds to be made up in there somewhere.

  I decided that a more fun way to spend my time is knocking seconds off
my times at the other courses (which are mostly dreadful).  Had some
major victories getting down to 1:35 at Monaco and 1:25 at Kyalami -
which are (admittedly) hugely off the pace for the rest of you, but I'm
***y pleased.  My real bogey track is the Ring though.  My time seems
to have stabalised at 10:25... dreadful.  Admittedly that included 4-5
spins - usually at the same place.

  The one thing I can't get is the consistency.  I'm having a terrible
time with that.  I can do, 4-5 laps at most circuits between spins.
(And 4-5 trees between spins).  How do I increase my MTBF here?  What's
the secret to consistency in GPL?  Anybody got any tips for this?

  Also, I find myself very distracted by watching the needle go to
red-line.  Is everyone else doing this or are the rest of you judging
the engine revs by sound?  How much difference to a lap time does it
make getting the engine right to red-line and how much difference does
gearing make full-stop.

  Ho hum...  After nigh on a year playing it's still a great game.

--
Richard G. Clegg       Only the mind is waving
    Networks and Non-Linear Dynamics Group
      Dept. of Mathematics, Uni. of York
    www:  http://www.racesimcentral.net/

I thought that a low 1:28 was possible but man that's a challenge. What fuel
loads are you running, number of laps until you hit the 28's, which car? All
the work on consistency in the Lotus has paid off now for me as I have
gotten within 1 tenth of my new PB 3 times in one session.

What is the current record for Monza? I dare say Woeger has it (how does he
do it? Especially Zandy, can't get below 1:30) Actually a link to a site
with all the GPL records would be good.

After the qualifying session that I got the 1:29.65 I walked the race from
1st to finish. 1st lap was a 1:35 and all the rest were 1:30's. Johan is
right about having good days & bad days. Yesterday's race was the best I've
managed but today I can't even get past the first corner without taking out
half the field!

Don't focus on the laptimes, just drive without trying to brake juuuust a
little later. In online races I find very much pleasure in passing other
people who spun out. The problem is that many people i pass after they
spun seems to disconnect, so I always finish last anyway :)

Definately

--
Olav K. Malmin
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At Kyalami you may find it handy to go through most corners a gear higher
than normal to keep up speed through the corners, it also means that it is
far less likely that you'll spin it from high revs. I changed to using 3rd
in turn 1, 2, 3, 4 ; 2nd in turn 5 ; 3rd for the chicane & turn 7 and then
flat through the kink & over the line. That took my times down to 1:23.15
from the 1:25's I was stuck in for ages.

Hope it helps.

Definitely. You can gain so much time sometimes with a slow in - fast
out style, especially at Monza. The long straights after nearly every
time mean that a good exit will easily outdo any gain you make from
braking late.

--
Cheers!
Graeme Nash

(About to fire up GPL 1.0 to see if I can hit the magic 1m26 mark...)

8-)

One day I'll even manage to try Mexico......Naaah, maybe not!!!

8-)

*Peter* -  http://www.racesimcentral.net/~peterpc/home.html

<snipped some good stuff about trail braking>

ROFL!!! I had the same experience about two weeks ago, finally got into the
1:29's at Monza and won 3 novice races in succession, all from the front
row. I thought I was the King of Monza until I got home the next day and
couldn't get through the Curva Grande without slipping into the guardrail!

Now close your eyes and repeat after me...slow in, fast out...slow in, fast
out....oooooohhhhhmmmmm

don

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Don't sell yourself short, Olav.  The person who comes last is the person who
disconnects first - at least you're doing a full race distance.

Cheers,

Mark
Reading, UK

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Before you buy.

So last night i've downloaded Nunnini setup guide, I read it 3 times.
First to translate it :o) Second to understand it, And Third to sum up it.
So i could cook my own cherished setup.
And i could done it! PB : 1m28s68 , with missing apex at lesmo1 and bad
brake at parabolica. So now i'm working on better setup, and the next
frontier is sub 1m28 !

Thank you mister Nunnini !

well, it's very true, but what i think when i'm driving at limit is mostly :
" i'm gonna crash !, i'm gonna crash !"
" oh my god, all tires are locked, i'm gonna eat sand"
"ho jezz, i'm never gonna reach that apex!"

in french of course :o)

well, honneslty it's when i'm beyond the limits of my skill and/or the setups
:o)

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