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by **Joachim Trens** » Mon, 10 Jun 2002 20:58:20

I'm not sure you guys are really up to something there.

I have the same experience that sometimes for whatever reasons my laptimes
just aren't where they should be, but I usually find out that it's either my
driving because then at one point the fast laps come back, or if they don't,
nobody else is faster than me either, so it seems to affect everyone else as
well and can be put down to environmental conditions apparently. Remember
the Nx series does simulate the movement of air at certain stages of the
race _apart_ from normal wind, for example, although I don't know to which
extent.

If you're the only one affected by it in a race, I'd consider it a safe
guess its your driving ;-)

Achim

by **Uwe Schuerkam** » Mon, 10 Jun 2002 19:45:15

> How about the temperature?
> Could it have been a hot race?
> Wind?

BTW, where are we running next week?

Cheers,

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by **John Simmon** » Mon, 10 Jun 2002 20:55:35

The #43 BlueDOT Glass Windex Monte Carlo was awesome and was running
pretty good all day. I knew we could keep up with the leaders and if we
managed our tires and fuel correctly, we'd be in contention for the win.
The pit crew was awesome, especially the awesome jack man. We hired him
away from Jeff Gordon and he has a thing for awesome jack handles, but
we thinkhe's getting over that (and that's simply awesome). He did an
awesome job on our one and only awesome pit stop. I couldn't ask for a
more awesome crew chief either - ***le McDangle really deserves kudos
for an awesome job. Of course, we have awesome sponsors too. BlueDOT
Glass signed the big check late in the season, and we're happy to have
performed so awesomely for them. Pocono is an awesome track and the
fans are awesome, and awesome awesome awesome with awesome and plenty of
awesome from down deep in awesome awesome awesome. Lastly, awesome. I
really mean that.

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by **Joachim Trens** » Mon, 10 Jun 2002 23:01:42

How about Cleveland or the Osterreichring? Or St. Jovite? :-)

Achim

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by **Jan Verschuere** » Mon, 10 Jun 2002 21:07:45

"Uwe Schuerkamp" wrote ...

If we're following the Winston Cup schedule now, I think it's Michigan. I
could be wrong though...

In case you haven't receive or downloaded the apology I sent you by mail
(yahoo address) yet, let me just say I'm sorry we tangled near the end of
the race. I should have chenged line as well as slowed to avoid you. My
fault.

Jan.
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by **Eldre** » Mon, 10 Jun 2002 21:10:42

writes:

>> That's kind of funny. You had the exact same problem I did, except I was
>> staying high and out of the way.

>> I guess there is no way to really win :)

>> -Larry
> Pocono is a track where slow guys can stay high and give the fast line to
>the leaders. The trouble with this...is the flat nature of Pocono. IF the
>passing car carries too much speed, he won't be able to stay down by the
>curb and if he drifts up to the outside....whose there? The lappee...
>dave henrie

Um, dave? My incident was on the front STRAIGHT...

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by **Uncle Feste** » Mon, 10 Jun 2002 22:06:16

> You did well anyway Eldred!
> OH - btw,

> H A P P Y B I R T H D A Y !!!!!!

> (You deserved to win!)
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> ed_

It was your birthday Eldred? Happy birthday bro! So you're only 17
days younger than I am eh? :-P

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by **Uncle Feste** » Mon, 10 Jun 2002 22:07:48

>>Congrats to John Simmons!
>>Race results are up: http:www.umich.edu/~epickett/rascar.html
>>Didn't think I'd get 'em don that quick, DID ya?<g>

> The #43 BlueDOT Glass Windex Monte Carlo was awesome and was running
> pretty good all day. I knew we could keep up with the leaders and if we
> managed our tires and fuel correctly, we'd be in contention for the win.
> The pit crew was awesome, especially the awesome jack man. We hired him
> away from Jeff Gordon and he has a thing for awesome jack handles, but
> we thinkhe's getting over that (and that's simply awesome). He did an
> awesome job on our one and only awesome pit stop. I couldn't ask for a
> more awesome crew chief either - ***le McDangle really deserves kudos
> for an awesome job. Of course, we have awesome sponsors too. BlueDOT
> Glass signed the big check late in the season, and we're happy to have
> performed so awesomely for them. Pocono is an awesome track and the
> fans are awesome, and awesome awesome awesome with awesome and plenty of
> awesome from down deep in awesome awesome awesome. Lastly, awesome. I
> really mean that.

Err John.... you forgot to change your hat. Here...

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by **Uncle Feste** » Mon, 10 Jun 2002 22:12:31

> In practice before the race I noticed immediately that the car was slower on
> acceleration. My practice times sucked and I couldn't even get out of the
> 56's! Qualified with a 56.006. Disconnected from the race and rebooted the
> game but was still slow in warmup. My best race time with the help of
> drafting was just a 55.6.

Did you recalibrate your controller?

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by **Richard** » Mon, 10 Jun 2002 22:13:34

Truthfully, I didn't even deserve to be in that RACE... :(

Eldred
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by **Eldre** » Mon, 10 Jun 2002 23:11:46

>How about Cleveland or the Osterreichring? Or St. Jovite? :-)

>Achim

>...
>> BTW, where are we running next week?

Earth to Achim, Earth to Achim...<g>

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by **Eldre** » Mon, 10 Jun 2002 23:11:46

>On Sun, 9 Jun 2002 11:08:46 +0200, Carl Ribbegaardh

>> How about the temperature?
>> Could it have been a hot race?
>> Wind?

>BTW, where are we running next week?

Michigan. We're going to follow the NASCAR schedule for a while.

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by **John Pancoas** » Mon, 10 Jun 2002 23:18:08

Fixed weather, 70 degrees, no wind.

-John

> How about the temperature?
> Could it have been a hot race?
> Wind?

> /Carl

> > You know David, I had the EXACT same thing happen to me awhile back at
> an
> > Indy race..........joined in practice race-night, and it was like I was
> > dragging an anchor(fixed setup/weather).
> > At the time, I told myself I was imagining things, but numbers don't
> lie.
> > Then, thought it was my pots; quickly replace them, same thing.

> > Veeery interesting..........

> > -John

> > > This was a shi**y race for me. :-)

> > > First of all, I had four freezes. I give up on that now. I just wasted
> > money
> > > on a new CD-RW yesterday in a desperate attempt to solve the problem
(to
> > go
> > > along with wasting money by replacing perfectly good ram awhile back).

> > > More importantly to me is why the h*ll was my car so slow? I can do
> 55.5's
> > > fairly easily, and my best with the fixed fast setup (no draft help
and
> > > actually very little practice) is a 55.136. Did a 55.15 late last
night
> > and
> > > just did the 55.136 after the race offline to make sure I wasn't going
> > > crazy. 55.2's and 55'3's weren't rare in testing the past couple of
> days.

> > > In practice before the race I noticed immediately that the car was
> slower
> > on
> > > acceleration. My practice times sucked and I couldn't even get out of
> the
> > > 56's! Qualified with a 56.006. Disconnected from the race and rebooted
> the
> > > game but was still slow in warmup. My best race time with the help of
> > > drafting was just a 55.6.

> > > Looking at the results at the RASCAR page, it's obvious to me that
> > something
> > > was screwed up with my game as the qualifying times are right where I
> > > expected them to be for guys like Jason and Ian based on what they
said
> > they
> > > were able to do the past few days in practice.

> > > Anyone have any idea why this would happen? I drove 100 laps
completely
> > > pissed because of this. I wonder how many of you had the same
situation
> > but
> > > just didnt realize it?

> > > David G Fisher

> > > > Typical, around lap 25 i lost my focus, changed down to second in
> > > > turn 2 and blew the engine...

> > > > It was noticable that most drivers were a lot more careful this
time,
> > > > looked like good clean racing to me.

> > > > Now, if we could only keep that attitude, and turn the yellows on
> > > > again :)

> > > > Olav

by **John Simmon** » Mon, 10 Jun 2002 23:13:45

Eldred, you did just fine (you weren't last - grin). Just go ahead and
join the races, drive your best, and have some fun.

For Eldred, ZZ, and anyone else that feels the same way they do):

If you feel like you don't have a handle on the car, ease up a bit on
the speed, and don't take any chances. Believe me when I say that the
car will come to you if you persist at trying to find it.

I'm most certainly not the fastest guy here (middle of the pack
practice/qual/finish). I drive with the mindset to not crash or spin
regardless of the outcome of the race. Many times, that means lifting
earlier for the turns, braking a little longer than is really necessary,
and stabbing the gas later than you should have to.

In all honesty, I think GPL made me a better stockcar driver because I
learned that car control is much more important than speed, and that the
better you can control your car, the more speed you will have.

It's a mindset, pure and simple. You guys have it, you just have to
realize it for yourselves.

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by **John Pancoas** » Mon, 10 Jun 2002 23:20:59

Maybe, but I still think it's fishy :) Btw, it was fixed weather, no
wind. In my case, the grip level was very obviously, dramatically,
increased from minutes before.

I think it's safe to say it wasn't my driving style, not when the
difference is seconds, not tenths, and I was several seconds off the slowest
car's pace :)

-John

> I'm not sure you guys are really up to something there.

> I have the same experience that sometimes for whatever reasons my laptimes
> just aren't where they should be, but I usually find out that it's either
my
> driving because then at one point the fast laps come back, or if they
don't,
> nobody else is faster than me either, so it seems to affect everyone else
as
> well and can be put down to environmental conditions apparently. Remember
> the Nx series does simulate the movement of air at certain stages of the
> race _apart_ from normal wind, for example, although I don't know to which
> extent.

> If you're the only one affected by it in a race, I'd consider it a safe
> guess its your driving ;-)

> Achim

> > You know David, I had the EXACT same thing happen to me awhile back at
> an
> > Indy race..........joined in practice race-night, and it was like I was
> > dragging an anchor(fixed setup/weather).
> > At the time, I told myself I was imagining things, but numbers don't
> lie.
> > Then, thought it was my pots; quickly replace them, same thing.

> > Veeery interesting..........

> > -John

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