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c..

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by c.. » Tue, 23 Apr 2002 07:58:57

Hi,

I am very interested in obtaining an Australian Tasman series track
SANDOWN.

Unfortunately my skills arent good enough to attempt this myself, but
I can supply all details, many photos, and I have some original
program covers from the period, one even signed by Graham Hill.

I am not sure how much you would charge, Im open to negotiation.

I raced there in formula vee in the early 80's, and as a cosequence
have a romantic atachemnet to this circuit, particually in its
original layout as raced by the gp cars of the era.

I have web space to host the circuit and the interest in maintaining
it, but to attempt the design is way out of my league.

If any one is interested, please email me.

Many thanks

Glenn Corrigan

Michael Barlo

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by Michael Barlo » Tue, 23 Apr 2002 08:08:41

    Step in line, I'm still waiting on the Glen *With the Boot* ;-)
--
Michael A. Barlow


Dave Henri

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by Dave Henri » Tue, 23 Apr 2002 08:41:10


   I'm sure there is some psychological study in this...the choices folks
make when building tracks.  Some like Bathhurst are naturals, & famous
tracks from days gone by...I'm curious AND betting that most track builder's
have some connection to the tracks they build...i.e. raced there, watched
races there, had an uncle that lived there...something..
(of course this doesn't apply to fantasy track creators.)
dave henrie

David Butter

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by David Butter » Tue, 23 Apr 2002 08:55:12


I hope that *doesn't* come out any time soon. Reason? I've finally
started going fast on the Glen as it now is - the second GlenBoot comes
out pretty much everyone who knows the track IRL will migrate over
there...

Oh, and where the ***y hell is Oulton Park? At this rate I'll have to
build it myself, and that will *not* be a pretty sight...

--
"After all, a mere thousand yards... such a harmless little knoll,
really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh.

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David Butter

WANTED - GPL Track Designer.............I'll pay for you to build.

by David Butter » Tue, 23 Apr 2002 08:57:01


<snip>

I reckon you're right. After all, what was the first track I had a go
at making? Shelsley Walsh. Which is a) the nearest topline speed event
to where I live, and b) the place I watch at most. My version looks
nothing like it, though, and that's not only 'cause I had to add the
(non-existent IRL) return road... <g>

--
"After all, a mere thousand yards... such a harmless little knoll,
really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh.

The GPL Scrapyard: Back again! http://www.btinternet.com/~gplscrapyard

c..

WANTED - GPL Track Designer.............I'll pay for you to build.

by c.. » Tue, 23 Apr 2002 16:10:26

Hey guys, you highjacked my thread.

I simply asked to "buy" the track by somone who would care to build it
for me!!!!!!

cheers

Andre Warrin

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by Andre Warrin » Tue, 23 Apr 2002 17:34:29

On Sun, 21 Apr 2002 23:08:41 GMT, "Michael Barlow"


>    Step in line, I'm still waiting on the Glen *With the Boot* ;-)
>--
>Michael A. Barlow

Silly question of the day: The Boot, is that the right-left kink
between the esses and the loop, as we have it in N2002?

Andre

Andre Warrin

WANTED - GPL Track Designer.............I'll pay for you to build.

by Andre Warrin » Tue, 23 Apr 2002 17:34:50


>Hey guys, you highjacked my thread.

>I simply asked to "buy" the track by somone who would care to build it
>for me!!!!!!

>cheers

Welcome to RAS :)

Andre

smogbik

WANTED - GPL Track Designer.............I'll pay for you to build.

by smogbik » Tue, 23 Apr 2002 17:58:23

Howdy ho Glenn,

How much would you pay for approx. 100 hours work by a software engineer?

That probably would be the minimum time required to accurately replicate
a "real" track ... and that's assuming you have ALL the hard data related
to overall track length, length of each straight, radius of each corner,
camber data for each straight and corner, and topographic map of track,
with resolution of at least 3 meters (hopefully better) ... in other
words, pictures are not enough.

Given all the data named above, I could produce a drivable Sandown Intl.
Raceway in about a month ... if the desire strikes me.

This might explain why a GPL Track Builder must REALLY REALLY want to
build a track.

BTW- the above estimate is based on my just-completed track, Glen71,
which portrays Watkins Glen Long Course as it was in 1971 ... WITH the
Boot and WITHOUT the Inner Loop ... see
http://forum.racesim.net/showthread.php?s=84cd3a73330df61cf3e30b51165...

and
http://forum.racesim.net/showthread.php?s=84cd3a73330df61cf3e30b51165...

Yr friend in the aether,
smogbike


> Hi,

> I am very interested in obtaining an Australian Tasman series track
> SANDOWN.

> Unfortunately my skills arent good enough to attempt this myself, but
> I can supply all details, many photos, and I have some original
> program covers from the period, one even signed by Graham Hill.

> I am not sure how much you would charge, Im open to negotiation.

> I raced there in formula vee in the early 80's, and as a cosequence
> have a romantic atachemnet to this circuit, particually in its
> original layout as raced by the gp cars of the era.

> I have web space to host the circuit and the interest in maintaining
> it, but to attempt the design is way out of my league.

> If any one is interested, please email me.

> Many thanks

> Glenn Corrigan

smogbik

WANTED - GPL Track Designer.............I'll pay for you to build.

by smogbik » Tue, 23 Apr 2002 18:01:29

Hoi hoi Michael,

See
http://forum.racesim.net/showthread.php?s=84cd3a73330df61cf3e30b51165...

and
http://forum.racesim.net/showthread.php?s=84cd3a73330df61cf3e30b51165...

Yr friend in the aether,
smogbike


>     Step in line, I'm still waiting on the Glen *With the Boot* ;-)
> --
> Michael A. Barlow

Tony Van Caute

WANTED - GPL Track Designer.............I'll pay for you to build.

by Tony Van Caute » Tue, 23 Apr 2002 18:04:54

100 hours at 6dollar an hour (at least) -> 600 dollars

not that I want to make the track (I cant), but is that wath you want to
pay ?

maybe somebody already did the job


> Howdy ho Glenn,

> How much would you pay for approx. 100 hours work by a software engineer?

> That probably would be the minimum time required to accurately replicate
> a "real" track ... and that's assuming you have ALL the hard data related
> to overall track length, length of each straight, radius of each corner,
> camber data for each straight and corner, and topographic map of track,
> with resolution of at least 3 meters (hopefully better) ... in other
> words, pictures are not enough.

> Given all the data named above, I could produce a drivable Sandown Intl.
> Raceway in about a month ... if the desire strikes me.

> This might explain why a GPL Track Builder must REALLY REALLY want to
> build a track.

> BTW- the above estimate is based on my just-completed track, Glen71,
> which portrays Watkins Glen Long Course as it was in 1971 ... WITH the
> Boot and WITHOUT the Inner Loop ... see
> http://forum.racesim.net/showthread.php?s=84cd3a73330df61cf3e30b51165...

> and
> http://forum.racesim.net/showthread.php?s=84cd3a73330df61cf3e30b51165...

> Yr friend in the aether,
> smogbike


> > Hi,

> > I am very interested in obtaining an Australian Tasman series track
> > SANDOWN.

> > Unfortunately my skills arent good enough to attempt this myself, but
> > I can supply all details, many photos, and I have some original
> > program covers from the period, one even signed by Graham Hill.

> > I am not sure how much you would charge, Im open to negotiation.

> > I raced there in formula vee in the early 80's, and as a cosequence
> > have a romantic atachemnet to this circuit, particually in its
> > original layout as raced by the gp cars of the era.

> > I have web space to host the circuit and the interest in maintaining
> > it, but to attempt the design is way out of my league.

> > If any one is interested, please email me.

> > Many thanks

> > Glenn Corrigan

--

rgds,
Tony

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smogbik

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by smogbik » Tue, 23 Apr 2002 18:11:39

Hoi hoi Andre,

The kink you mentioned is "The Inner Loop" ... added to slow things down
after a NASCAR driver (can't recall name now) killed himself at the end
of that straight.

"The Boot" is the extra bit of track added in 1971 ... Left immediately
after The Loop, down hill, back up, re-joining "NASCAR Straight" two
corners before S/F line ... on a track map, the addition is in the shape
of a "low-top" boot ... hence the name.

Yr friend in the aether,
smogbike


> Silly question of the day: The Boot, is that the right-left kink
> between the esses and the loop, as we have it in N2002?

> Andre

Kevin Clar

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by Kevin Clar » Tue, 23 Apr 2002 18:12:46


> Hi,

> I am very interested in obtaining an Australian Tasman series track
> SANDOWN.

Try asking in the track makers forum at racesimcentral.com
Mikkel Gram-Hanse

WANTED - GPL Track Designer.............I'll pay for you to build.

by Mikkel Gram-Hanse » Tue, 23 Apr 2002 18:37:41



> > Hi,

> > I am very interested in obtaining an Australian Tasman series track
> > SANDOWN.

> Try asking in the track makers forum at racesimcentral.com

Good call Kevin ;) and:
http://forum.racesimcentral.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=19
is the url for the track editing section of the RSC forum.

Mikkel

Michael Barlo

WANTED - GPL Track Designer.............I'll pay for you to build.

by Michael Barlo » Wed, 24 Apr 2002 07:00:45

    I pretty much lived at the track from 67-today.  SCCA club and pro
events, as well as many others.  The only ones I didn't car for was the
NASCAR events. all though I did make one in 1996 (I think it was 96).

    So, That's enough encouragement for someone to build the damn thing. Get
going guys! ;-)

--
Michael A. Barlow




> >     Step in line, I'm still waiting on the Glen *With the Boot* ;-)
> > --
> > Michael A. Barlow
>    I'm sure there is some psychological study in this...the choices folks
> make when building tracks.  Some like Bathhurst are naturals, & famous
> tracks from days gone by...I'm curious AND betting that most track
builder's
> have some connection to the tracks they build...i.e. raced there, watched
> races there, had an uncle that lived there...something..
> (of course this doesn't apply to fantasy track creators.)
> dave henrie


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