rec.autos.simulators

by **Ivty** » Sat, 22 Jun 2002 13:54:37

Which would you choose? And why? Are the 3 axis pedals sold by Act Labs
really worth it? What about RS shifter? Thank you in advance,

Ivtyf

by **David L. Coo** » Sat, 22 Jun 2002 20:08:16

This article should tell you what you need to know...

http://www.tomshardware.com/consumer/02q2/020524/index.html

- David Cook

by **Morris Jone** » Sat, 22 Jun 2002 20:44:05

O yes, I have the Momo with the Act Labs Pedals it is a GREAT Combo.

> > Which would you choose? And why? Are the 3 axis pedals sold by Act Labs
> > really worth it? What about RS shifter? Thank you in advance,

> > Ivtyf

> This article should tell you what you need to know...

> http://www.tomshardware.com/consumer/02q2/020524/index.html

> - David Cook

by **Steve Smit** » Sat, 22 Jun 2002 20:48:14

David,

I agree with everything Stephane said abt. the MOMO, *except* he must have
been playing with games that don't allow brake locking. To complain abt.
the throttle travel being too short w/o mentioning the lack of brake-pedal
travel is unconscionable. I spent hours stiffening the resistance and
fiddling with the shape of the response curve (in DXTweak2), and there was
only a fraction of an inch between free-wheeling and smoke pouring off all
four tires in GPL. The MOMO is the best...providing you use 3rd-party
pedals like TSW or (Down Under) Redline.

--Steve

> > Which would you choose? And why? Are the 3 axis pedals sold by Act Labs
> > really worth it? What about RS shifter? Thank you in advance,

> > Ivtyf

> This article should tell you what you need to know...

> http://www.tomshardware.com/consumer/02q2/020524/index.html

> - David Cook

by **Lawman_027** » Sat, 22 Jun 2002 21:06:18

From personal experience, avoid the Act Labs pedals. I got the AL
performance pedals for Christmas 2001 and replaced springs 3 times. I
sold the whole wheel/pedal/shifter on Ebay a few weeks ago. I feel
that the build quality is not up to par and they (A-L) don't seem
compelled to fix the problem or even acknowledge the issue. I sent
them several emails about the problems I was having and got canned,
generic email replies that new springs were on the way. I got the
"new" springs and they don't seem any different than the ones that I
had. I bought a TSW2 wheel/pedal setup as a replacement. THIS is the
wheel that I should have originally.

Now, the shifter from A-L is a different story. This is the best
invention yet for PC racing sims. Like I said, I sold the whole AL
setup and got the TSW2. But I ordered the GPL USB shifter from AL.
This model is compatible with ALL wheels and plugs in as a USB device.
Works greats.

If you have to have the FF, most recommendations point to the MOMO. I
looked at them at Best Buy, and I didn't like the pedals. They look
like the same pedals from the original LWFF (Big Red) wheel that I
still own. People have said that they work better, but I wasn't
convinced. IF FF isn't a big deal, I would highly suggest the TSW line
of wheels. You can customize it to your exact needs and desires and
can always add on later. I skipped the clutch pedal for now as the one
on the AL, I never used, except as a "novelty". If racign games start
to truly use the clutch, I'll have TSW add it in.

Hope this helps.

Dave

by **Larr** » Sun, 23 Jun 2002 00:34:14

Momo Wheel Great. Momo Pedals are terrible, unless you drive Tractors for a
living and have size 8 feet.

-Larry

by **Larr** » Sun, 23 Jun 2002 00:34:48

With one exception. The author of this article fancies the Momo pedals.
He's the first I've ever heard that actually like them.

-Larry

> > Which would you choose? And why? Are the 3 axis pedals sold by Act Labs
> > really worth it? What about RS shifter? Thank you in advance,

> > Ivtyf

> This article should tell you what you need to know...

> http://www.tomshardware.com/consumer/02q2/020524/index.html

> - David Cook

by **Schoone** » Sun, 23 Jun 2002 00:40:14

I have no issues with my MOMO pedals.

> With one exception. The author of this article fancies the Momo pedals.
> He's the first I've ever heard that actually like them.

> -Larry

> > > Which would you choose? And why? Are the 3 axis pedals sold by Act
Labs
> > > really worth it? What about RS shifter? Thank you in advance,

> > > Ivtyf

> > This article should tell you what you need to know...

> > http://www.tomshardware.com/consumer/02q2/020524/index.html

> > - David Cook

by **Larr** » Sun, 23 Jun 2002 01:34:00

You should see a doctor about that. Something is obviously wrong :)

-Larry

> I have no issues with my MOMO pedals.

> > With one exception. The author of this article fancies the Momo pedals.
> > He's the first I've ever heard that actually like them.

> > -Larry

> > > > Which would you choose? And why? Are the 3 axis pedals sold by Act
> Labs
> > > > really worth it? What about RS shifter? Thank you in advance,

> > > > Ivtyf

> > > This article should tell you what you need to know...

> > > http://www.tomshardware.com/consumer/02q2/020524/index.html

> > > - David Cook

by **Schoone** » Sun, 23 Jun 2002 01:55:19

Nothing is wrong. What issues are you having? What pedals are you using?

FYI - I have the pedals mounted on a angled stand and I use a Honda Prelude
seat mounted on a raised base. If your talking about using a setup in a
desk chair with pedals on the floor well then any set is going to be bad.

> You should see a doctor about that. Something is obviously wrong :)

> -Larry

> > I have no issues with my MOMO pedals.

> > > With one exception. The author of this article fancies the Momo
pedals.
> > > He's the first I've ever heard that actually like them.

> > > -Larry

> > > > > Which would you choose? And why? Are the 3 axis pedals sold by Act
> > Labs
> > > > > really worth it? What about RS shifter? Thank you in advance,

> > > > > Ivtyf

> > > > This article should tell you what you need to know...

> > > > http://www.tomshardware.com/consumer/02q2/020524/index.html

> > > > - David Cook

by **Rick Boy** » Sun, 23 Jun 2002 02:30:51

I had some Performance Pedals from that first production run and they were
pretty lumpy. Mine self destructed and were promptly replaced by Act-Labs.
The new ones are MUCH improved and I wouldn't hesitate to recommend them.

by **Mitch Alatorr** » Sun, 23 Jun 2002 04:03:06

Same here. First prod run really had issues. Just recieved a repl set and
they are much improved.

by **Kendt Eklu** » Sun, 23 Jun 2002 04:36:03

> Which would you choose? And why? Are the 3 axis pedals sold by Act Labs
> really worth it? What about RS shifter? Thank you in advance,

> Ivtyf

I can't reply on all your comments, but I'll vouch for the quality of
the ActLabs rig, and the great customer support I've had from them.
If you like your FF strong, the AL is great. RC2000 at 100% is very
fun, just make sure everything on your desk is secure (I had to velcro
down my front speakers!)
I've heard mixed things about the 3-pedal set, mainly around
durability, but hopefully these were just teething problems. I use my
trusty Thrustmaster NASCAR pro pedals with my wheel, so really can't
comment on how you'd like the stock AL pedals long-term.
For something like GPL, the shifter is a *must-have* - but you can get
the USB shifter for the momo if you want. I checked out the Momo at
my local Best Buy, and I'd love to try one out at home - it felt very
nice, probably the ideal compliment to an F1 game. I seriously doubt
you'd go worng with either one.

HTH,
Kendt

by **Larr** » Sun, 23 Jun 2002 11:59:47

Never mind :)

-Larry

> Nothing is wrong. What issues are you having? What pedals are you using?

> FYI - I have the pedals mounted on a angled stand and I use a Honda
Prelude
> seat mounted on a raised base. If your talking about using a setup in a
> desk chair with pedals on the floor well then any set is going to be bad.

> > You should see a doctor about that. Something is obviously wrong :)

> > -Larry

> > > I have no issues with my MOMO pedals.

> > > > With one exception. The author of this article fancies the Momo
> pedals.
> > > > He's the first I've ever heard that actually like them.

> > > > -Larry

> > > > > > Which would you choose? And why? Are the 3 axis pedals sold by
Act
> > > Labs
> > > > > > really worth it? What about RS shifter? Thank you in advance,

> > > > > > Ivtyf

> > > > > This article should tell you what you need to know...

> > > > > http://www.tomshardware.com/consumer/02q2/020524/index.html

> > > > > - David Cook

by **Schoone** » Sun, 23 Jun 2002 18:58:06

Never mind what?
You made a statement and don't want to back it up now? Just curious what
your using and what issues your having with the momo pedals. Some people
don't like them but that can be said for any pedals/wheel. Some people find
the squash ball mod helps a lot but I tried it and prefer it without. Like
everything else it comes down to driving style and what a person likes.

> Never mind :)

> -Larry

> > Nothing is wrong. What issues are you having? What pedals are you
using?

> > FYI - I have the pedals mounted on a angled stand and I use a Honda
> Prelude
> > seat mounted on a raised base. If your talking about using a setup in a
> > desk chair with pedals on the floor well then any set is going to be
bad.

> > > You should see a doctor about that. Something is obviously wrong :)

> > > -Larry

> > > > I have no issues with my MOMO pedals.

> > > > > With one exception. The author of this article fancies the Momo
> > pedals.
> > > > > He's the first I've ever heard that actually like them.

> > > > > -Larry

> > > > > > > Which would you choose? And why? Are the 3 axis pedals sold by
> Act
> > > > Labs
> > > > > > > really worth it? What about RS shifter? Thank you in advance,

> > > > > > > Ivtyf

> > > > > > This article should tell you what you need to know...

> > > > > > http://www.tomshardware.com/consumer/02q2/020524/index.html

> > > > > > - David Cook

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