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RASCAR: Michigan

John Simmon

RASCAR: Michigan

by John Simmon » Mon, 18 Aug 2003 11:19:38

There was some great racing up front. I haven't ever seen that many
cars running so close for such a long time in RASCAR.  There were as
many as five to eight cars in contention for the lead at any given
moment.

I think 5 cautions for 16 laps (out of a possible 80) is pretty close
to what I would call acceptable.  It could stand improvement, but
much better than the last few races.

Kyle Robert

RASCAR: Michigan

by Kyle Robert » Mon, 18 Aug 2003 11:35:32


Those of us that didn't pit during the last caution with about 45 to go sure
could have used one more besides with 2 to go.

Kyle

John Simmon

RASCAR: Michigan

by John Simmon » Mon, 18 Aug 2003 11:55:30




> > There was some great racing up front. I haven't ever seen that many
> > cars running so close for such a long time in RASCAR.  There were as
> > many as five to eight cars in contention for the lead at any given
> > moment.

> > I think 5 cautions for 16 laps (out of a possible 80) is pretty close
> > to what I would call acceptable.  It could stand improvement, but
> > much better than the last few races.

> Those of us that didn't pit during the last caution with about 45 to go sure
> could have used one more besides with 2 to go.

Yup, I was one of those that could have used either 10 more laps or
another caution.
Brian Oste

RASCAR: Michigan

by Brian Oste » Mon, 18 Aug 2003 13:47:39

On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 02:35:32 GMT, "Kyle Roberts"




>> There was some great racing up front. I haven't ever seen that many
>> cars running so close for such a long time in RASCAR.  There were as
>> many as five to eight cars in contention for the lead at any given
>> moment.

>> I think 5 cautions for 16 laps (out of a possible 80) is pretty close
>> to what I would call acceptable.  It could stand improvement, but
>> much better than the last few races.

>Those of us that didn't pit during the last caution with about 45 to go sure
>could have used one more besides with 2 to go.

Well, I hated too see the caution come out with 1 to go, I wanted one
more stab at Ginger but probably wouldn't have changed the out come,
except Jan probably would have finally made it around me.  There was
some really good racing today.  Michigan is a fun track, because you
can actually pass or hold someone off on the outside and we had some
pretty good side-by-side battles today.

BTW, did I miss something?  Has it been decided the previous weeks
winner must start in the back?

Brian Oster

Steve Whitt

RASCAR: Michigan

by Steve Whitt » Mon, 18 Aug 2003 14:56:42

whats the chances of Bristol being acceptable.  As we say here in
Australia.... Two chances...Buckley's and none.
:-)   Which is our way of saying, a snowballs chance..

While you guys up front were battling away, we were having some good fun
down the back.  Especially with the faster lapped cars towards the end.

Steve


Kyle Robert

RASCAR: Michigan

by Kyle Robert » Mon, 18 Aug 2003 16:02:44


Who or what is Buckley and why doesn't it have a chance?

Just curious.

Kyle

Steve Whitt

RASCAR: Michigan

by Steve Whitt » Mon, 18 Aug 2003 16:15:23

ok.  good question Kyle.  Most Aussies don't even know the origin
of"Buckley's and none"   so here goes.  got the following from a web page.

In 1802, after 14 years of progress with its colony in New South Wales
(Sydney, Parramatta, Toongabbie, Windsor, Newcastle), the British Government
had resolved to set up a new penal settlement in Bass Strait at Port Phillip
Bay (the current site of Melbourne), and Lt-Col. David Collins was placed in
charge.

Among the 300 convicts was William Buckley (1780-1856), who had been
transported for receiving a bolt of cloth knowing it to be stolen. On
Christmas Day, 1803, he and two others escaped. Soon they were starving and
Buckley's companions decided to return to the settlement, but were never
heard of again.

A month later, Collins, having already concluded that the site was
unsuitable, departed with his prisoners to establish a settlement (now
Hobart) in Van Dieman's Land.

Buckley, in the meantime, had managed to survive by living off the land, and
was soon made welcome by the Wathaurong-speaking Koories, whose country is
around present-day Geelong.

Perhaps because of his pale skin colour and his height (he was nearly two
metres tall), they regarded him as a reincarnated man of authority, a
position that afforded him rights and also responsibilities. In the 32 years
he spent with these people, he was taught their language and acquired an
intimate, detailed knowledge of their ritual and customs. The tribe also
gave him a wife.

In July 1835 Buckley surrendered to a survey party led by J. H. Wedge, in
order to prevent some Aborigines from robbing a visiting ship and ***ing
the crew. By now Buckley had almost forgotten how to speak English and could
only be identified by his initials tattooed on his arm.

Wedge thought Buckley would make a useful interpreter between the local
Aborigines and Europeans, and managed to obtain a pardon for him.

As an interpreter, Buckley was no great success, but in the years to come he
would grow to be famous as a guide for white settlers who wished to see the
wonderful scenery along the Barwon River, particularly the Falls that now
bear his name. Buckley's account of his time among the Wathaurong was
published in 1852, and is an important source of information about the
Aboriginal people in the region south-west of Melbourne.

In this way was the legend of Australia's first wild white man born - a man
whose chance of survival in the bush had indeed been "forlorn" and "slim",
but who beat the odds dramatically, and maybe even gave his name, not only
to a waterfall, but more significantly for Australian sceptics and word
lovers alike to the very idea of having all probabilities stacked against
one.

hows that?  about as clear as mud?:o)

Steve




> > whats the chances of Bristol being acceptable.  As we say here in
> > Australia.... Two chances...Buckley's and none.
> > :-)   Which is our way of saying, a snowballs chance..

> > While you guys up front were battling away, we were having some good fun
> > down the back.  Especially with the faster lapped cars towards the end.

> > Steve

> Who or what is Buckley and why doesn't it have a chance?

> Just curious.

> Kyle

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Steve Whitt

RASCAR: Michigan

by Steve Whitt » Mon, 18 Aug 2003 17:50:46

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Steve

John Simmon

RASCAR: Michigan

by John Simmon » Mon, 18 Aug 2003 20:42:45



It was just something we were trying.  Ginger has to start in the
back next week at Bristol. :)

John Simmon

RASCAR: Michigan

by John Simmon » Mon, 18 Aug 2003 20:50:25



I was hoping the patch would have come out long before we got back to
Bristol.  Pitting is dicey because it's easy to pass the pace car as
you're moving down pit road, and the patch is supposed to address the
problem.  It's up to everyone to be aware of this quirk of the track
because we won't be removing "bogus" black flags.

Colin Harri

RASCAR: Michigan

by Colin Harri » Mon, 18 Aug 2003 22:15:21




> > whats the chances of Bristol being acceptable.  As we say here in
> > Australia.... Two chances...Buckley's and none.
> > :-)   Which is our way of saying, a snowballs chance..

> I was hoping the patch would have come out long before we got back to
> Bristol.  Pitting is dicey because it's easy to pass the pace car as
> you're moving down pit road, and the patch is supposed to address the
> problem.  It's up to everyone to be aware of this quirk of the track
> because we won't be removing "bogus" black flags.

If the patch isn't out, John, just make sure you as admin add the !yellow
command at the 'one to go' call, that way you don't get black flags....
Colin Harri

RASCAR: Michigan

by Colin Harri » Mon, 18 Aug 2003 22:15:50




> > BTW, did I miss something?  Has it been decided the previous weeks
> > winner must start in the back?

> It was just something we were trying.  Ginger has to start in the
> back next week at Bristol. :)

Another FFRL invention :-))))))
John Simmon

RASCAR: Michigan

by John Simmon » Mon, 18 Aug 2003 23:59:53







> > > BTW, did I miss something?  Has it been decided the previous weeks
> > > winner must start in the back?

> > It was just something we were trying.  Ginger has to start in the
> > back next week at Bristol. :)

> Another FFRL invention :-))))))

I was doing it in IGPS2 in 1998. :)

Does that pre-date FFRL's "invention"?  :)

A .Mous

RASCAR: Michigan

by A .Mous » Tue, 19 Aug 2003 00:02:34

"> > > There was some great racing up front. I haven't ever seen that many

Was fun running at or near the head after qualifying 3rd. Would have liked
to have been up there at the end as well. Who the hell ran into me in T1 as
though I was not even there? Driving for 50 laps at speeds 30-40 mph down on
the whole field was a waste of time and I really don't know why I bothered.

Go for a move if you will but drive round a car, NOT THROUGH IT!!

MS

John Simmon

RASCAR: Michigan

by John Simmon » Tue, 19 Aug 2003 00:13:03



If you don't have a replay, or haven't downloaded the server replay,
you shouldn't be complaining. What lap? Who was involved?  Don't ask
who it was, because that's just shy of being pointless.


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