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by **Coote** » Mon, 30 Aug 1999 04:00:00

You...and your kind are why NASCAR will never be taken seriously as a TRUE
racing series. NASCAR is and continues to be very popular in the U.S. but is
becoming more of a circus or WWF style event than a racing series because
people like you condone Ironhead's actions.
I can read the thought bubble over your head........"I'ma gonna get me some
tickets to Darlington to see if Terry get's Dale back". Which is all great
for NASCAR but bad for motorsports in general.

Coot

> > Gee, I didn't mean to wreck Terry. Yea, right. Maybe they should take
a
> lap
> > or two away and let Dale sit for a couple of races. Nascar took two
laps
> away
> > from someone for running in to the back of Jarrett when he was going
> slow.
> > Earnhardt wrecks too many people and should have to pay. Did you hear
> all the
> > boo's?
> > Don

by **Adria** » Mon, 30 Aug 1999 04:00:00

this is why i watch CART
if 2 people hit, generally both people go out, or are damaged (not always,
generally). Hitting someone to get them out of your way just doesn't happen
in CART, or any other type of open wheel racing for that matter.

the jackass driving style of zanardi pissed me off...but he's gone...and
montoya took his place and has a much better driving style. Montoya is just
plain GREAT.

by **5th Docto** » Mon, 30 Aug 1999 04:00:00

But, knowing Dale, he'd probably save it and win anyway ;)

by **Jacvil** » Tue, 31 Aug 1999 04:00:00

I am not a big NASCAR fan (F1 and CART for me), but I did happen to catch most
of the race last night. My question is, why did they penalize one guy (#36, I
think) 2 entire laps for tapping a guy inadvertantly (he (88?) was running VERY
slowly and admitted he got in the way of the guy who hit him), and then turn a
blind eye when Earnhart decided the race with an INTENTIONAL move? That is
completely backwards, if you ask me.

Can someone please explain the logic there? I'm not asking to be told 'it
happens all the time' -- if it does, they would not have docked the first guy 2
laps.....

Thanks...

by **Michael Horto** » Tue, 31 Aug 1999 04:00:00

You're right it doesn't make sense. The only thing I can see for 36's
penalty is that he could easily gone around Jarrett but I think he was too
busy looking in his mirror and trying not to be put a lap down that he
forgot to look forward. In that case he deserves a penalty. Now as far as
Earnhardt goes I don't know. He admitted that he hit Terry on purpose in the
victory lane interview but later at the press conference he wouldn't admit
it. I also saw that Marcis was penalized for causing a yellow. I guess he's
had help from Childress racing previously and with Earnhardt pitting on the
back straight NASCAR thought something hinky was up.

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> >People, People:

> >Come on..it was one of those racing deals.
> >Get a grip on it. They all want to win and have most probably done
similar.
> >Did
> >you not see Spencer remind Rudd of this in the
> >post race interview??

> I am not a big NASCAR fan (F1 and CART for me), but I did happen to catch
most
> of the race last night. My question is, why did they penalize one guy
(#36, I
> think) 2 entire laps for tapping a guy inadvertantly (he (88?) was running
VERY
> slowly and admitted he got in the way of the guy who hit him), and then
turn a
> blind eye when Earnhart decided the race with an INTENTIONAL move? That
is
> completely backwards, if you ask me.

> Can someone please explain the logic there? I'm not asking to be told 'it
> happens all the time' -- if it does, they would not have docked the first
guy 2
> laps.....

> Thanks...

by **David L. Co** » Tue, 31 Aug 1999 04:00:00

I think it's time this thread went away...

wrote...

by **macki** » Tue, 31 Aug 1999 04:00:00

Coot maybe the terms chump,balls & brains was a bit harsh ( i had knocked
the frost off a few before the post ) The Winston Cup Series is as true as
it gets IMHO. If you think ironhead driving hard as hell on the last lap of
a race to win is like the wwf your high !!! I hate the circus & wrestling
but have to love a stock car race where a driver will lightly rattle a
friend to visit victory lane :) By the way I'ma gonna watch the race on tv
not to see Terry pay Dale back but to see the man in black autograph
someone's door with his tire as he blows by !!!!!!!

> > Yeah i heard the boo's !! I am glad he spun that chump who does'nt have
> the
> > balls to complain or the brains to know if you pass the intimidator on
the
> > last lap you could be in the wall !! Terry is to nice :)

> You...and your kind are why NASCAR will never be taken seriously as a
TRUE
> racing series. NASCAR is and continues to be very popular in the U.S. but
is
> becoming more of a circus or WWF style event than a racing series because
> people like you condone Ironhead's actions.
> I can read the thought bubble over your head........"I'ma gonna get me
some
> tickets to Darlington to see if Terry get's Dale back". Which is all
great
> for NASCAR but bad for motorsports in general.

> Coot

> > > Gee, I didn't mean to wreck Terry. Yea, right. Maybe they should
take
> a
> > lap
> > > or two away and let Dale sit for a couple of races. Nascar took two
> laps
> > away
> > > from someone for running in to the back of Jarrett when he was going
> > slow.
> > > Earnhardt wrecks too many people and should have to pay. Did you
hear
> > all the
> > > boo's?
> > > Don

by **Target** » Tue, 31 Aug 1999 04:00:00

Sure it is. When was the last time you saw Bruton Smith or somebody come out
and hit Tony Stewart across the head with a chair?
Racer X
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Victory Lane-
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by **DJacob** » Tue, 31 Aug 1999 04:00:00

You make a very good point. Earnhardt wrecked Terry on purpose and should not
get the win. Nascar officials have little bitty balls.

by **Kinny Vinso** » Tue, 31 Aug 1999 04:00:00

First thing, Earhardt was pitting on the back stretch. This is a
DISADVANTAGE under caution. Under a green flag pit stop, there would have
been no loss of time getting in and out of the pits assuming the Goodwrench
had a good pit stop. i.e., Nascar made a bonehead move penalizing Marcis
for that. Pitting under caution was no help to the Childress #3 team.

Second thing, in a post race interview with Terry Labonte on PRN, he
admitted that he lifted to try to slow Dale down once he passed him. What a
bonehead thing to do. He had four sticker tires, was clearly the fastest
thing on the track, and he was worried about slowing down a car on old
tires. He should have, and could have, just driven away and taken the
victory.

Kinny Vinson

> You're right it doesn't make sense. The only thing I can see for 36's
> penalty is that he could easily gone around Jarrett but I think he was too
> busy looking in his mirror and trying not to be put a lap down that he
> forgot to look forward. In that case he deserves a penalty. Now as far as
> Earnhardt goes I don't know. He admitted that he hit Terry on purpose in
the
> victory lane interview but later at the press conference he wouldn't admit
> it. I also saw that Marcis was penalized for causing a yellow. I guess
he's
> had help from Childress racing previously and with Earnhardt pitting on
the
> back straight NASCAR thought something hinky was up.

> --

> Thanks
> Michael Horton
> Webmaster of http://www.bus.nait.ab.ca/staff/mikeh/gpl
> Home of the F2/F3 Hotlaps
> Webmaster of http://www.bus.nait.ab.ca/staff/mikeh/html
> HTML for Beginners

> > >People, People:

> > >Come on..it was one of those racing deals.
> > >Get a grip on it. They all want to win and have most probably done
> similar.
> > >Did
> > >you not see Spencer remind Rudd of this in the
> > >post race interview??

> > I am not a big NASCAR fan (F1 and CART for me), but I did happen to
catch
> most
> > of the race last night. My question is, why did they penalize one guy
> (#36, I
> > think) 2 entire laps for tapping a guy inadvertantly (he (88?) was
running
> VERY
> > slowly and admitted he got in the way of the guy who hit him), and then
> turn a
> > blind eye when Earnhart decided the race with an INTENTIONAL move? That
> is
> > completely backwards, if you ask me.

> > Can someone please explain the logic there? I'm not asking to be told
'it
> > happens all the time' -- if it does, they would not have docked the
first
> guy 2
> > laps.....

> > Thanks...

by **NaScArN** » Tue, 31 Aug 1999 04:00:00

Mackin,

That's not the point. I've lost respect for NASCAR after their
decision to let the Bristol results stand. Why penalize Todd Bodine
when Dale Jarrett got in his way. Dale Jarrett should of gotten the
black flag for being to freakin' slow to begin with, it's obvious who
has the biggest sponsor and who goes fishing with Bill France that has
the rulings go their way. NASCAR OFFICIALS are obviously there in
uniform only, and don't have a clue of the impact they just made on
this sport, by going against their own rules. I hope Terry gets his
revenge on the so-called man-in-black. Ridiculous! Never did like
that Earnhardt character, and after that Bristol race, I've lost all
respect for him. Maybe he should just retire to TEN/NROS and race in
pickup races, that's all he's good for now. Then he can blame it on a
warp. LOL

by **Steve Konc** » Tue, 31 Aug 1999 04:00:00

I don't know if any of you were watching but, terry almost wrecked mark
martin on his little charge back to the front. Terry booted the #88 on
the last lap in a race last year to get his only win in '98'. If he
could drive there would not have even been a wreck. The same thing
happened at bristle with #24 and #2 on the last lap, but rusty can
drive. Every driver will tell you 'you beat on me your fair game'. Last
lap? they all do it.

by **Marty U'Re** » Tue, 31 Aug 1999 04:00:00

Clean drivers race clean...dirty drivers race dirty.

Earnhardt has used dirty driving to take out faster cars his whole career and has
got away with it because the Nascar fans have loved it. Labonte on the other had
is one of the cleanest drivers their is. Who's image has made the most money in
Nascar?

But this time the fans didnt approve of dirty driving.. Perhaps stock car racing
will finally have to grow out of it's macho-redneck image or suffer the
consequences to it's bottom line.

Marty

> Gee, I didn't mean to wreck Terry. Yea, right. Maybe they should take a lap
> or two away and let Dale sit for a couple of races. Nascar took two laps away
> from someone for running in to the back of Jarrett when he was going slow.
> Earnhardt wrecks too many people and should have to pay. Did you hear all the
> boo's?
> Don

by **Bob Curti** » Tue, 31 Aug 1999 04:00:00

> Nascar officials have little bitty balls.

Naw, I think they got two-watts

--
Bob Curtin
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http://www.tiac.net/users/ten10ths/
"If God had intended men to join the Army he would have given us green, baggy
skin"

by **don hodgdo** » Tue, 31 Aug 1999 04:00:00

Well, if the rumors are true, and Foyt is returning to NASCAR as an owner,
watch your back<g>.

don

[|]-(_)-[|]

>>or WWF style event

>Sure it is. When was the last time you saw Bruton Smith or somebody come
out
>and hit Tony Stewart across the head with a chair?
>Racer X
>Veteran Sim Racer
>Victory Lane-
>http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/1423/

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