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by **Alexander Mar** » Wed, 02 Jan 2002 23:17:18

see the following links to screenshots:

the mip mapping seems to be corrupted using the latest drivers, the
only cure is disabling the mip mapping completely which looks very
very bad indeed. Older driver revisions show the same. Papyrus: f you
could find a way to fix this for the final version it would be really
appreciated. The framerates are excellent with the V5 (better than
N4).

http://www.racesimcentral.net/
http://www.racesimcentral.net/
http://www.racesimcentral.net/

happens in all resolutions / color depths.

cheers,
Alexander Marx

mailto: alex(dot)marx(at)gmx(dot)de

by **Dave Henri** » Thu, 03 Jan 2002 01:41:05

Turn your mirror on and you will see it chase you down the track as well.
I have found changing screen resolutions will also change the color of the
corruption. I started with a bright orange/red, I've seen white, and blue
and black. And yellow on the apron, also white and black on the apron. I
think this depends on the inside stripe color somewhat. I did manage to run
in a window with 32 bit color at one size down from my desktop rez and it
went away...but the next session with the same settings it was there again.
dave henrie

by **(Rich#8** » Thu, 03 Jan 2002 03:15:56

run the 3dconfig untility and don't choose the T&L option,, after
this you shouldn't have any texture corruption..

Transform and Lighting is for GeForce2 only (correct if I'm wrong)

by **Zardo** » Thu, 03 Jan 2002 03:31:59

> run the 3dconfig untility and don't choose the T&L option,, after
> this you shouldn't have any texture corruption..

> Transform and Lighting is for GeForce2 only (correct if I'm wrong)

You're wrong. :-) GF2, GF3, and all ATI Radeon cards do T&L.

by **Dave Henri** » Thu, 03 Jan 2002 03:41:29

And 3dfx V4 & V5 cards can 'use' TnL settings and actually see a framerate
benefit, but at least with N4, the graphic corruption made it
unusable.(holes in the sides of cars, missing textures in the***pit etc.)
dave henrie

> > run the 3dconfig untility and don't choose the T&L option,, after
> > this you shouldn't have any texture corruption..

> > Transform and Lighting is for GeForce2 only (correct if I'm wrong)

> You're wrong. :-) GF2, GF3, and all ATI Radeon cards do T&L.

by **Joe Schlomo** » Thu, 03 Jan 2002 23:08:14

> And 3dfx V4 & V5 cards can 'use' TnL settings and actually see a framerate
>benefit, but at least with N4, the graphic corruption made it
>unusable.(holes in the sides of cars, missing textures in the***pit etc.)
>dave henrie

>> > run the 3dconfig untility and don't choose the T&L option,, after
>> > this you shouldn't have any texture corruption..

>> > Transform and Lighting is for GeForce2 only (correct if I'm wrong)

>> You're wrong. :-) GF2, GF3, and all ATI Radeon cards do T&L.

How do you do this, not select TnL?
thanks

deeze

by **post-O-mati** » Fri, 04 Jan 2002 03:10:51

I never saw a frame rate benefit on my V5. I did see lot's of graphical
corruption using that option though. Let's face it, 3DFX added that option
purely so they could just make it look like the V5 was capable of doing T&L
and compete with Nvidia. The fact is, the V5 method uses the cpu to do that
stuff and is not a feature of the video card and to say it can 'use' T&L is
misleading.

by **post-O-mati** » Fri, 04 Jan 2002 03:14:49

> How do you do this, not select TnL?
> thanks

> deeze

Under OpenGL it is not selectable, OpenGL uses it automatically if it
detects a card with the capability. Under D3D you can usually select either
D3D or D3D T&L Hal. In some games you just select T&L or unselect in the
options screen.

by **btgos** » Fri, 04 Jan 2002 03:53:27

I have not be able to run either game in 32 bit color with my v5 5500. I am
using the latest AmigaMerlin dirvers. If anyone has some information about
how to run this in 32bit color, or a driver recommendation
Thanks,
Btgoss
--
btgoss

Remove my shorts to reply

> > And 3dfx V4 & V5 cards can 'use' TnL settings and actually see a
> framerate
> > benefit, but at least with N4, the graphic corruption made it
> > unusable.(holes in the sides of cars, missing textures in the***pit
> etc.)
> > dave henrie

> I never saw a frame rate benefit on my V5. I did see lot's of graphical
> corruption using that option though. Let's face it, 3DFX added that option
> purely so they could just make it look like the V5 was capable of doing
T&L
> and compete with Nvidia. The fact is, the V5 method uses the cpu to do
that
> stuff and is not a feature of the video card and to say it can 'use' T&L
is
> misleading.

by **The Other Larr** » Fri, 04 Jan 2002 05:32:54

Yeah, but not Voodoo.

So his recommendation stands :)

-Larry

> > run the 3dconfig untility and don't choose the T&L option,, after
> > this you shouldn't have any texture corruption..

> > Transform and Lighting is for GeForce2 only (correct if I'm wrong)

> You're wrong. :-) GF2, GF3, and all ATI Radeon cards do T&L.

by **Dave Henri** » Fri, 04 Jan 2002 23:04:26

set your desktop to 32bit and try that
I have the amigamerlins but never tried them...I am using X3dfx drivers from
november 2001. Turn on the Guardband clip option, that's good for about 3
more fps...
dave henrie

> I have not be able to run either game in 32 bit color with my v5 5500. I
am
> using the latest AmigaMerlin dirvers. If anyone has some information about
> how to run this in 32bit color, or a driver recommendation
> Thanks,
> Btgoss
> --
> btgoss

> Remove my shorts to reply

> > > And 3dfx V4 & V5 cards can 'use' TnL settings and actually see a
> > framerate
> > > benefit, but at least with N4, the graphic corruption made it
> > > unusable.(holes in the sides of cars, missing textures in the***pit
> > etc.)
> > > dave henrie

> > I never saw a frame rate benefit on my V5. I did see lot's of graphical
> > corruption using that option though. Let's face it, 3DFX added that
option
> > purely so they could just make it look like the V5 was capable of doing
> T&L
> > and compete with Nvidia. The fact is, the V5 method uses the cpu to do
> that
> > stuff and is not a feature of the video card and to say it can 'use' T&L
> is
> > misleading.

by **Pierre Legra** » Tue, 15 Jan 2002 07:26:07

The only reason that 3dfx gave us that option was to take care of
those games that might look for TnL before turning on some options.

As far as TnL goes having just finished a benchmark test of the
Geforce 3 vs V5 I have to say that TnL is overated in this sim. N4
runs just as fast in N4 as Geforce 3.

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