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I am struggling with Monaco in the Ferrari, using Alison's setup.

I'm fast enough 'round all the track, except when I exit the last right
hander, and enter the tunnel.

From here, the car that I've been right on the tail of accelerates away into
the tunnel in a way that I simply can't match. I have to hold back through
the tunnel as I don't have the grip, then as I go over the bump, the car
becomes so unsettled that I don't make it through the chicane, unless I lift
right off just before the bump. While I'm struggling with this section the
cars in front have disappeared into the distance.

Is there some kind of bug, it the setup no good, or am I just useless? I
hope it's not the latter, as I'm competitive everywhere else, it's just this
one section that I seem to have to walk through, while all the CC cars are
running! :-(

What's going on?

Thanks.

R.

You don't say what lap times you're doing.

I lap ok at monaco (ferrari pb is a 1.28.5) but I have to lift through
the tunnel a bit. Make sure you've got the car dead straight on the
track when you take the bump so that when you land the car is nice and
stable for you to drive it through the chicane.

Also, don't forget that monaco is a hard track. It's hard to overtake.
If the cars do get away from you out of the tunnel, you usually catch
them back up again at the last turn.

If you haven't got one, get a GPLrank
http://gplrank.schuerkamp.de/php-pub/gplrank.php
It's a great way of seeing if you're getting faster.

Kev

There are many hundreds of monaco setups to try,
http://www.racesimcentral.com/links/ultimate.shtml
and ask on the forums too.

rms

In the Ferrari and (ime) all the other F1 cars you will need to lift, but if
you lift a little earlier you can tuck the nose in, take a late apex just as
you come out of the tunnel and drift over to the left kerb.

From there, quickly get back over to the right and point the car directly at
the chicane as you go over the rise. This takes alot of practice, because
you have to point the car at something you can't yet see ;-)

Just before you go through the chicane, straighten the car out & if you get
it right you will drift sideways, but pointing straight on, and easily miss
the haybales on the left after the chicane.

The tricky part is that you have to point the RF wheel at the haybale
jutting out from the right, and rely on your speed to 'push' the car away
from it.

Using this technique you should be able to keep your foot down solid all the
way from just after you enter the tunnel to braking for Tabac, and with
practice it's relatively easy to do lap after lap.

As far as setting up your car is concerned, there's more than one way to do
it at Monaco I find, but I have the ride height & bump stops minimal and
stiffen the shocks. This will give you a little more control at the expense
of grip, but ultimately I find it easier to drive than a grippier setup.

Malc.

You just described my Monaco lap as well. Sorry; can't help; but I'm
eagerly awaiting replies.

Jim

Thanks, Malc. Very clear description. Now, let's see how long it takes
to be able to execute it!

I did discover something, though last night... If I turn FF off, I can get
it right every time! ;-)

PS. What's going on with the news...I only saw malc's (excellent) answer
when someone else quoted it in their reply (lucky they did, really)?

R.

Thanks ;-)

In OE, while viewing this newsgroup, go to the tools menu and select 'get
next 300 headers' if you think you may be missing posts.

ime, I have to do this with all non-UK hosted newsgroups occasionally, I
guess you may find the same thing with your country too.

As far as the FF is concerned, there is one hell of a bump right in the
middle of the chicane so it's not surprising that it throws you off, just
try increasing the max_steering_torque value in your core.ini to give
gentler forces, or do what I do & take a white knuckle ride ;-)

Malc.

I don't have FF, and that bump throws me into the wall on the left if I try to
stay flat through there...   Either that, or I spin trying to keep it OFF the
wall.  :-(

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