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VIA buys AMD, Nvidia buys Transmeta => good god !!

Mark

VIA buys AMD, Nvidia buys Transmeta => good god !!

by Mark » Sun, 30 Jun 2002 05:19:49



> posted:

> >Nah Steve, the Tbird doesnt have SSE just 3DNow, the Palomino has
enhanced
> >3DNow & SSE only not SSE2.

> >Cheers

> >Mark

> OK, my mistake sorry. Just went to AMD com and see I it is like this.

> XP cpu = 52 SSE instructions with SIMD integer and floating point
> additions offer excellent compatibility with Intel's SSE technology

Hey we all get it wrong now and again, but at least you are upfront about
it, pitty more people arent like that.

Cheers

Mark

James Boswel

VIA buys AMD, Nvidia buys Transmeta => good god !!

by James Boswel » Sun, 30 Jun 2002 08:25:27

Opteron is the marketing name for the Clawhammer in it's SMP variant and
Sledgehammer cpu's

-JB

James Boswel

VIA buys AMD, Nvidia buys Transmeta => good god !!

by James Boswel » Sun, 30 Jun 2002 08:25:52

getting posts out of order here.. my news server kinda sucks donkley balls >:(

-JB

James Boswel

VIA buys AMD, Nvidia buys Transmeta => good god !!

by James Boswel » Sun, 30 Jun 2002 08:26:51

It's pretty much conjecture either way, the only people who really know (AMD)
aren't likely to say anything other than what they've already said.

-JB

Mark

VIA buys AMD, Nvidia buys Transmeta => good god !!

by Mark » Sun, 30 Jun 2002 08:27:35


Yup and as I'm getting tired of saying and you not accepting... The 1600XP
is not on average 10% faster, it's between 2% & 5% faster depending on
application which on average says about 3.5% faster.

Show me a site anywhere that claims that the Palimino is on average 10%
faster!

friendly)

Perhaps you would be kind enough to name those games where SSE optimizations
& the prefetch let the Palomino "scream out ahead" of the Tbird!

Yes and there are even more instances where it is no more than 2% faster &
you still havent explained why a 1500Xp is slower than a 1.4tbird, or are
you just hoping I will forget that AMD's naming convention doesnt seem to
tally.

Oh yes & I can *sigh* as well, *sigh*

James Boswel

VIA buys AMD, Nvidia buys Transmeta => good god !!

by James Boswel » Sun, 30 Jun 2002 08:28:32

See, you just elaborated on what you meant and now it makes sense... :)

(AGP 8x probably won't be all that useful btw, if the AGP2x to 4x jump is
anything to go by)

-JB

Mark

VIA buys AMD, Nvidia buys Transmeta => good god !!

by Mark » Sun, 30 Jun 2002 08:36:08


What nonsense are you blubbering now, the review uses 18 independant
benchmarks that include ones that use SSE including lame/3Dmark2001/divx
encoding how many other applications would you like to be benchmarked???.
On lame/divx the XP is about 10% faster but considering every other
benchmark is between 1% & 5% (icluding 3Dmark2001) it still doesnt tally
with your 10% on average claim.

Mark

VIA buys AMD, Nvidia buys Transmeta => good god !!

by Mark » Sun, 30 Jun 2002 08:42:56


> On Fri, 28 Jun 2002 20:24:12 +0000 (UTC), "James Boswell"

> >It's the best but you won't buy it?

> >well THAT makes a whole lot of sense..

> >-JB

> I just told you why. Selective reading problem? Next mb I buy will
> have the excellent layout of that mb, but also have
> thermal protection and maybe even AGP 8X. Until I see such a mb I
> won't buy one. Abit SiS648 SR-7 is really close to that but has no USB
> 2.0.

Steve the boy's a troll, he's running out of arguments so he finds the best
he can do is try to ridicule your statements, what a loser.  Have you looked
further up the thread he still claims a Palomino is 10% faster than an
equivalent Tbird..... sick in the head I say.
Lenn

VIA buys AMD, Nvidia buys Transmeta => good god !!

by Lenn » Sun, 30 Jun 2002 09:13:55

Well you know, strange as it may seem, but sometimes news servers don't
update instantaneously halfway around the world whenever you've made a post.
I know the concept could be hard to grasp, but it is true! ;-)

No need to comment the obvious man, I saw your post too, AFTER I had sent
off mine. Like they say: "shit happens".

James Boswel

VIA buys AMD, Nvidia buys Transmeta => good god !!

by James Boswel » Sun, 30 Jun 2002 09:25:53

unless you compare x87 code and SSE code between them, where the SSE code will
be a hellishly large margin faster, this will PUSH THE AVERAGE UP

Do you know what "average" means?

-JB

James Boswel

VIA buys AMD, Nvidia buys Transmeta => good god !!

by James Boswel » Sun, 30 Jun 2002 09:27:02

Your the one making this personal, who's the troll again?

** ON AVERAGE **

bah, welcome to my killfile.

-JB

James Boswel

VIA buys AMD, Nvidia buys Transmeta => good god !!

by James Boswel » Sun, 30 Jun 2002 13:08:43

It struck me as odd that you were saying both "THAT BOARD ROCKS" and "I'M NOT
BUYING ONE" in the same post, Maybe I should stop reading usenet at 5am :)

You could go a lot further for bragging rights if you REALLY wanted them..
http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/eserver/pseries/hardware/whitepapers/pow...
chip

;p

-JB

Mark

VIA buys AMD, Nvidia buys Transmeta => good god !!

by Mark » Sun, 30 Jun 2002 20:55:42


Oh you are the troll, you make statements you cant back up with figures,
deflect issues & choose to ridicule people when all else fails, although I
have ridiculed you I can at least back up my arguments & I also dont try to
deflect from the issue!!

Which you still havent proven, despite requests for proof.

Oh no whatever will I do now?

James Boswel

VIA buys AMD, Nvidia buys Transmeta => good god !!

by James Boswel » Mon, 01 Jul 2002 08:54:23

Hack VirtualPC to run on it :p

-JB

ikste

VIA buys AMD, Nvidia buys Transmeta => good god !!

by ikste » Mon, 01 Jul 2002 18:32:41


Just an FYI -

The K7S5A will not work stably with non-XP CPUs.

Symptoms are instability and worst - major data
corruption on hard disks.  It's documented around
the net :

http://www.geocities.com/mrathlon2000/zp.html

This is due to incorrect resistors on the board
just inside the cpu socket.  I was able to solve
the problem by soldering another surface mount
resistor on top to alter the total resistance
but definately one to avoid if you have a TBird
CPU and are scared of soldering your mobo.  I have
since moved on to a 761 based board (ASUS A7M) and
it is excellent.

iksteh


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