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VIA buys AMD, Nvidia buys Transmeta => good god !!

James Boswel

VIA buys AMD, Nvidia buys Transmeta => good god !!

by James Boswel » Thu, 13 Jun 2002 16:56:31

the K7S5A isn't exactly sluggish if you poke it with a big enough stick :)

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James Boswel

VIA buys AMD, Nvidia buys Transmeta => good god !!

by James Boswel » Thu, 13 Jun 2002 16:57:43

the KT266 is slower than the SiS 735 >:)
the KT333 isn't particularly faster than the KT266A either (since the
bottleneck is the Athlon <-> Northbridge/memory controller link, not the
memory itself)

now, the SiS 745 _does_ lag behind, but it's not an "OMG THIS COMPUTER IS
SLOW" lag..
TBH, I think the Asus A7S333 looks like a very nice board at a VERY nice price
(assuming Asus didn't cut corners because it's based on a 'value' chipset.)

-JB

James Boswel

VIA buys AMD, Nvidia buys Transmeta => good god !!

by James Boswel » Thu, 13 Jun 2002 17:00:47

Are you aware that it's better to be full of shit, than it is to spew it
constantly?

Learn from this, it will serve you well in future.

-JB

James Boswel

VIA buys AMD, Nvidia buys Transmeta => good god !!

by James Boswel » Thu, 13 Jun 2002 17:08:11

uh..

http://www.ocworkbench.com/hardware/Leadtek/WinFast7350KDA/7350kdap5.htm

K7S5A and the 7350KDA seem to have fairly even, except the tests where the
K7S5A is faster by a noticable margin :p

-JB

Lenn

VIA buys AMD, Nvidia buys Transmeta => good god !!

by Lenn » Thu, 13 Jun 2002 19:32:06

No, it's you who is dumb.

And ignorant too. Your entire post is one big error, there's not a single
byte in it that conveys correct information.

You can't GET things more wrong than you did!

LOL. Yeah, I'm full of shit you say? The guy who gets everything wrong says
*I* am full of shit? Now that's ironic.

Toad

VIA buys AMD, Nvidia buys Transmeta => good god !!

by Toad » Thu, 13 Jun 2002 20:51:27


cheapie, and >at least on par with Nforce boards.

OK, thx. I'll look into that mb as I want to upgrade soon, although, I have
never seen it advertised around here.

Toad

VIA buys AMD, Nvidia buys Transmeta => good god !!

by Toad » Thu, 13 Jun 2002 20:56:24


OK, I'll consider them too. But I'm really considering Intel more than AMD
right now.

James Boswel

VIA buys AMD, Nvidia buys Transmeta => good god !!

by James Boswel » Thu, 13 Jun 2002 21:56:17

Unless you absolutely must have the performance of a 2.53Ghz P4, I personally
don't see much point, an AthlonXP 1800+ is still a blazingly fast system, and
the processors can be had for not much cash.

-JB

ZOD

VIA buys AMD, Nvidia buys Transmeta => good god !!

by ZOD » Fri, 14 Jun 2002 01:22:40

Just step onto the nearest RTCW or SoF2 server and see who burns...hehe

Tom Cummin

VIA buys AMD, Nvidia buys Transmeta => good god !!

by Tom Cummin » Fri, 14 Jun 2002 00:48:20


I don't know about anyone else, but you are in my killfile already, which
for a first day is pretty impressive.

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Toad

VIA buys AMD, Nvidia buys Transmeta => good god !!

by Toad » Fri, 14 Jun 2002 07:17:50


It's more about power consumption, stability and heat than performance for
me. And I still am not 100% sure about these SIS chipsets because I did
research variuous chipsets in the past and they were not recommended at the
time. But I guess things have improved since I bought my AMD761 mb. But many
people still swear by AMD761 for stability. When talking about the KT266 I
did mean the KT266A, the KT266 is not even a consideration now so assumed we
were talking about KT266A.

James Boswel

VIA buys AMD, Nvidia buys Transmeta => good god !!

by James Boswel » Fri, 14 Jun 2002 08:29:58

Well, yeah, but if you are running a boxed chip with a warranty on it and not
overclocking, why do you care how hot it runs as long as it runs?

btw, a machine is either 100% stable, or it isn't stable (do or do not, there
is no try :))

and, well, the P4 is hardly a cool running processor itself ya know.

Indeed, the AMD761 is a nice chip, shame that it's usually paired up with a
VIA southbridge tho'

-JB

Toad

VIA buys AMD, Nvidia buys Transmeta => good god !!

by Toad » Fri, 14 Jun 2002 14:38:26


Along with the heat from my monitor in the summer it is really  making my
room too hot for comfort. Works great as a furnace in the winter though.

I know that, and my PC is stable. You really are taking the assumption that
I don't know anything.

Way cooler than a T-Bird, which is what I'm currently running.

Yea, it is a shame, but you can blame the mb manfacturer's for that because
761 northbridge was designed by AMD to also use an AMD southbridge but they
chose to use the cheaper VIA southbridge instead. But I haven't actually had
any problems with the southbridge anyway. Many people have been running
KT333 just fine so it depends on what other hardware you have if you get
problems with VIA or not. If I was staying AMD then I would like to use
KT333 by way of the Asus A7V333 because it really is the fastest chipset
going and that mb has a really good layout and all the features I want.

Damien Smit

VIA buys AMD, Nvidia buys Transmeta => good god !!

by Damien Smit » Fri, 14 Jun 2002 17:59:16

As I mentioned, most of VIAs problems were with drivers for their
southbridge (and northbridge for that matter) The problems appear to have
been sorted out in recent drivers.  I have no hesitation in recommending VIA
chipsets these days.  Not the case 2 years ago...
Lenn

VIA buys AMD, Nvidia buys Transmeta => good god !!

by Lenn » Fri, 14 Jun 2002 18:27:45

Eh, actually no. Not that much, if at all. Compare either typical or maximum
power requirements for them both and they do end up at pretty much the same
place. AMD tends to report maximum power while Intel reports typical, which
gives the impression of a huge discrepancy, which really doesn't exist in
reality. I have a P4-1.7 (old Willy core) and I can assure you it gets
PLENTY hot when running full bore. :-)


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