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VIA buys AMD, Nvidia buys Transmeta => good god !!

John Metco

VIA buys AMD, Nvidia buys Transmeta => good god !!

by John Metco » Wed, 12 Jun 2002 11:23:17

goodness me
what is happening to the world ??

from totally unreliable sources:=

"...........MAKE OF THIS AS YOU WILL, but we heard from
normally highly reliable sources at Computex last week
that as recently as this time last year Via was
seriously considering buying AMD.
That would have been a masterstroke for Via CEO Wen Chi
Chen if he could have pulled off the plan.

Formidable obstacles -- no doubt in the shape of Jerry
Sanders III as well as the sums of money that would
probably have been involved -- might well have
convinced Via that the time for such an acquisition was
not ripe.

And it would also have pitched Via firmly against
Intel, and catapulted it firmly into the worldwide CPU
market.

Although Via is a force to be reckoned with in the
industry, the US seems to have something of a blind
spot about the company, which is owned by mega
Taiwanese corporation Formosa Plastics.

Via has already used the acquisition vehicle to
increase its presence in the marketplace, with
multi-million dollar deals giving it a number of US
firms and divisions including Centaur, Cyrix, a chunk
of S3, a bit of LSI Logic and goodness knows what else.

Such a bold stroke would have galvanised the industry.

Three years ago, at an Intel Developer Forum, chief
technology officer Pat Gelsinger told us that it was
rightly paranoid about Via - more paranoid in fact than
it was about AMD, widely perceived as its main
competition.

At the INQUIRER, we also know that Via was seriously
interested in acquiring Transmeta - so much so, in
fact - that the latter company protected itself with a
so-called "poison pill" piece of US regulatory paper.

Other firms that we know have also been interested in
Transmeta include its friend Nvidia, which wants to
give itself leverage against future Microsoft
negotiations.

Uziyahu / Cli

VIA buys AMD, Nvidia buys Transmeta => good god !!

by Uziyahu / Cli » Wed, 12 Jun 2002 12:48:06

I don't get it.

--Uzi


Blak

VIA buys AMD, Nvidia buys Transmeta => good god !!

by Blak » Wed, 12 Jun 2002 15:20:29

well thata would suck, I love AMD but VIA chipsets suck big time.....I wont buy a board with VIA on it.....

| goodness me
| what is happening to the world ??
|
| from totally unreliable sources:=
|
|
| "...........MAKE OF THIS AS YOU WILL, but we heard from
| normally highly reliable sources at Computex last week
| that as recently as this time last year Via was
| seriously considering buying AMD.
| That would have been a masterstroke for Via CEO Wen Chi
| Chen if he could have pulled off the plan.
|
| Formidable obstacles -- no doubt in the shape of Jerry
| Sanders III as well as the sums of money that would
| probably have been involved -- might well have
| convinced Via that the time for such an acquisition was
| not ripe.
|
| And it would also have pitched Via firmly against
| Intel, and catapulted it firmly into the worldwide CPU
| market.
|
| Although Via is a force to be reckoned with in the
| industry, the US seems to have something of a blind
| spot about the company, which is owned by mega
| Taiwanese corporation Formosa Plastics.
|
| Via has already used the acquisition vehicle to
| increase its presence in the marketplace, with
| multi-million dollar deals giving it a number of US
| firms and divisions including Centaur, Cyrix, a chunk
| of S3, a bit of LSI Logic and goodness knows what else.
|
| Such a bold stroke would have galvanised the industry.
|
| Three years ago, at an Intel Developer Forum, chief
| technology officer Pat Gelsinger told us that it was
| rightly paranoid about Via - more paranoid in fact than
| it was about AMD, widely perceived as its main
| competition.
|
| At the INQUIRER, we also know that Via was seriously
| interested in acquiring Transmeta - so much so, in
| fact - that the latter company protected itself with a
| so-called "poison pill" piece of US regulatory paper.
|
| Other firms that we know have also been interested in
| Transmeta include its friend Nvidia, which wants to
| give itself leverage against future Microsoft
| negotiations.
|
|
|

Damien Smit

VIA buys AMD, Nvidia buys Transmeta => good god !!

by Damien Smit » Wed, 12 Jun 2002 18:32:53

wont buy a board with VIA on it.....

I agree, but the last few VIA chipsets have been superb. i.e. KT266A & KT333
The KT133 was a pile of cr*p when it first came out, however the VIA 4in1
drivers have come on in leaps and bounds in the last year or so and even it
seems stable now.

--
Damien Smith

ICQ: 77028579
F1 2001 rank: -11.512

Toad

VIA buys AMD, Nvidia buys Transmeta => good god !!

by Toad » Wed, 12 Jun 2002 18:42:56


wont buy a board with VIA on it.....

What other choices do you have? AMD stopped making chipsets and SIS and Ali
Magik are not so great either. At least VIA makes the fastest AMD chipsets.
I'm still using an AMD761 chipset, but probably not for much longer if I
want to upgrade the cpu. I've even thought of going back over to Intel with
the i845E chipset and a P4 2.26A just so I can get a stable chipset and not
have to buy RAMBUS.

me

VIA buys AMD, Nvidia buys Transmeta => good god !!

by me » Wed, 12 Jun 2002 23:17:46

AMD's intel compatible chipsets are in fact designed and fabricated by VIA
anyhow.
This is a known and is no secret. You constantly find the same exact errors
and issues
in both chips at the same time. The reason is that they ARE the same chips,
just that one
has AMD on it and another has VIA on it, but they are the same.
It suprises me not at all when AMD is going to buy VIA because VIA is pretty
much owned
by VIA already as VIA has not sold on their own since AMD employed them to
pump out chipsets
compatible with their AMD CPU's. Don't also be suprised if VIA is
fabricating AMD's CPU's though
AMD is designing them, VIA is actually manufacturing them. On the other
hand? Why? AMD has a huge
fab her in Austin. No use ot use VIA. I think the object is that AMD wants
VIA's sole technology.
I feel sorry for AMD because there are much better chipset makers out there
than VIA. VIA's chipsets
are laiden with serious errors and flaws, esp. when applied to AGP and PCI
bus timing issues.
This has been such a huge issue that VIA had to resort to making each timing
parameter programable
in their chipsets so they never have to simply pull an entire chipset off
the market, instead they have
to go in and tweak their chipset bus timing to agree with every card you try
to shove into your system.
A pretty *** way to go after it compared to Intel's process which is to
simply stick with a timing standard
and force everyone to stick to it. For some reason though VIA choses not to
stick with that standard. Why?
I think that the standard itself requires licensing and VIA isn't going to
pay intel anything, so they approach
it in a cleanroom manner and as a result, really screws up bad.


Lenn

VIA buys AMD, Nvidia buys Transmeta => good god !!

by Lenn » Thu, 13 Jun 2002 01:05:15

It's completely untrue. AMD designs and manufactures their chipsets on their
own, and in their own fabs too I believe. VIA doesn't even HAVE any
manufacturing capability! They're a fabless design studio who appoints
companies such as TMSC to actually produce their chips.

Shows how much YOU know, LOL!

Ehhh... No, this is bullshit like most everything else you post.

Makes sense. VIA owns VIA... Brainfart, anyone?

Not sure exactly what you're trying to say here. VIA sells quite a lot of
Intel-compatible chipsets too.

It makes flash memory these days, not CPUs.

AMDs CPUs are made in the Dresden megafab in Germany, or in the case of the
Duron (which was produced in Austin up until recently) by some Taiwanese
company that I can't remember the name of.

James Boswel

VIA buys AMD, Nvidia buys Transmeta => good god !!

by James Boswel » Thu, 13 Jun 2002 01:55:37

I agree with you on Ali, I do however strongly disagree WRT SiS

At what cost though?

Have you considered nForce?
(your AMD 761 should take a Thoroughbred without issue by the way)

-JB * gets back to enjoying the troublefree life the SiS735 provides *

James Boswel

VIA buys AMD, Nvidia buys Transmeta => good god !!

by James Boswel » Thu, 13 Jun 2002 01:56:37

UMC?

-JB

Chris G

VIA buys AMD, Nvidia buys Transmeta => good god !!

by Chris G » Thu, 13 Jun 2002 02:21:22

Guys please remove "alt.games.operation-flashpoint" from the headers.  We're
not interested in the "war of the computer geeks" over here.

Chris G.
aka-Miles Teg<GD>

--
"Getting eaten by a crocodile is JUST like falling asleep... in a blender!"
- Homer Simpson


mhicaoid

VIA buys AMD, Nvidia buys Transmeta => good god !!

by mhicaoid » Thu, 13 Jun 2002 03:59:40


    Anyone else enjoy the irony of that statement?  LOL

Larr

VIA buys AMD, Nvidia buys Transmeta => good god !!

by Larr » Thu, 13 Jun 2002 01:57:07

I don't think VIA is big enough to buy AMD, are they ?

-Larry


Larr

VIA buys AMD, Nvidia buys Transmeta => good god !!

by Larr » Thu, 13 Jun 2002 01:59:20

SiS has actually been making a name for itself recently.  For example, the
SIS735 is a very stable, and until the KT266 came out, the fastest AMD
chipset available.

-Larry




> > well thata would suck, I love AMD but VIA chipsets suck big time.....I
> wont buy a board with VIA on it.....

> What other choices do you have? AMD stopped making chipsets and SIS and
Ali
> Magik are not so great either. At least VIA makes the fastest AMD
chipsets.
> I'm still using an AMD761 chipset, but probably not for much longer if I
> want to upgrade the cpu. I've even thought of going back over to Intel
with
> the i845E chipset and a P4 2.26A just so I can get a stable chipset and
not
> have to buy RAMBUS.

doc

VIA buys AMD, Nvidia buys Transmeta => good god !!

by doc » Thu, 13 Jun 2002 05:41:40

I don't think VIA is big enough anymore to buy an Arby's franchise...

:
: doc
:

:


> I don't think VIA is big enough to buy AMD, are they ?

> -Larry



> > goodness me
> > what is happening to the world ??

> > from totally unreliable sources:=

> > "...........MAKE OF THIS AS YOU WILL, but we heard from
> > normally highly reliable sources at Computex last week
> > that as recently as this time last year Via was
> > seriously considering buying AMD.
> > That would have been a masterstroke for Via CEO Wen Chi
> > Chen if he could have pulled off the plan.

> > Formidable obstacles -- no doubt in the shape of Jerry
> > Sanders III as well as the sums of money that would
> > probably have been involved -- might well have
> > convinced Via that the time for such an acquisition was
> > not ripe.

> > And it would also have pitched Via firmly against
> > Intel, and catapulted it firmly into the worldwide CPU
> > market.

> > Although Via is a force to be reckoned with in the
> > industry, the US seems to have something of a blind
> > spot about the company, which is owned by mega
> > Taiwanese corporation Formosa Plastics.

> > Via has already used the acquisition vehicle to
> > increase its presence in the marketplace, with
> > multi-million dollar deals giving it a number of US
> > firms and divisions including Centaur, Cyrix, a chunk
> > of S3, a bit of LSI Logic and goodness knows what else.

> > Such a bold stroke would have galvanised the industry.

> > Three years ago, at an Intel Developer Forum, chief
> > technology officer Pat Gelsinger told us that it was
> > rightly paranoid about Via - more paranoid in fact than
> > it was about AMD, widely perceived as its main
> > competition.

> > At the INQUIRER, we also know that Via was seriously
> > interested in acquiring Transmeta - so much so, in
> > fact - that the latter company protected itself with a
> > so-called "poison pill" piece of US regulatory paper.

> > Other firms that we know have also been interested in
> > Transmeta include its friend Nvidia, which wants to
> > give itself leverage against future Microsoft
> > negotiations.

Chris G

VIA buys AMD, Nvidia buys Transmeta => good god !!

by Chris G » Thu, 13 Jun 2002 05:45:08

No please explain.
Chris G.
aka-Miles Teg<GD>

--
"Getting eaten by a crocodile is JUST like falling asleep... in a blender!"
- Homer Simpson




> > Guys please remove "alt.games.operation-flashpoint" from the headers.
> We're
> > not interested in the "war of the computer geeks" over here.

>     Anyone else enjoy the irony of that statement?  LOL


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