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by **Joachim Trens** » Fri, 26 Apr 2002 03:43:04

Hi Dave,

well at least they'll have to work really hard for it <g>

Achim

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by **Eldre** » Fri, 26 Apr 2002 02:38:54

>>So IMHO, it's no more useful than the kind of ranking we've got now, of
>>course, if you find people with 100 000 + laps and an LPI of 250 +, you
>>can be pretty sure he's a clean racer :-)

>People, people, why so much discussion over something totally
>unimportant like LPI values, when there are so much more beautiful
>things in the world like LOVE?

>Andre / continuing work on a romantic poem for his girlfriend (hmm..
>what rhymes on hooters?)

Computers...<G>

Eldred
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by **Eldre** » Fri, 26 Apr 2002 02:38:54

>Apologies if I repeat myself, but I brought one ID from 0 to 5 on RC's in
>about a week, with an lpi of currently around 50 (Littlefeat). I raced
>mostly on the fixed setup Papy RC Loop servers.

But, the LPI is unrelated to your rating. You increase your rating by beating
people, but you can improve your LPI simply by staying out of trouble. So, I
might have an LPI of 300(I don't), but my rating doesn't increase because
everyone in the field is faster.
So in that respect, running in the RAS races would actually HURT me, as I've
been the slowest so far in the 3 or 4 races I've run in.

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by **Joachim Trens** » Fri, 26 Apr 2002 06:07:43

I said this in reply to David, who'd said something to the effect that he
couldn't have raced much on Sierra.com if he'd tried to keep his lpi high.
And I replied that I'd thrown myself into the melee and raced competitively
even on the Papy servers, and still managed to keep the lpi high.

I was mentioning this to show that racing competitively on Sierra.com's Papy
servers is not mutually exclusive with trying to maintain a good lpi.
Although there is a certain conflict of interests <g>

Achim

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by **David G Fishe** » Fri, 26 Apr 2002 05:15:47

> >People, people, why so much discussion over something totally
> >unimportant like LPI values, when there are so much more beautiful
> >things in the world like LOVE?

> >Andre / continuing work on a romantic poem for his girlfriend (hmm..
> >what rhymes on hooters?)

> Computers...<G>

I wonder how long it will be before he comes back here asking us what rymes
with ***? :-)

David G Fisher

by **Eldre** » Fri, 26 Apr 2002 06:01:31

>Does anyone understand that rationale of wasting all that time to build up
>something that gets you
>into the better races, then go in and destroy it?

Does anyone understand the rationale of crashing someone on purpose "just
because"...?

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by JM » Fri, 26 Apr 2002 06:24:01

>> You must of
>> decided at some point that you didn't want your primary ID to be
>> negatively affected by unavoidable incidents. Right? If I had used a
>> second ID for just the Papy server SS races, my primary ID LPI would
>> be much, much higher.

> Which shows exactly how easily manipulated & therefore worthless the
> LPI measure is.

Not necessarily- consider the extreme case of the "Jeckyl and Hyde" racer.
He is playing the numbers game by having two IDs. One of these IDs has an
LPI of +100 and he races clean with this one to protect the LPI. His other

3.

Now if you're in a server with a minimum LPI of 20 restriction, you may be
annoyed that such an obnoxious player can still join and race with you, but
should be at least "safe" in the knowledge that he'll be driving sensibly
as this is his pet "high LPI" ID.

At the end of the day, it should mean better racing, even if some of the
drivers have a penchant for annoying other people with different IDs.

just a thought.
Cheers
John

by **John Pancoas** » Fri, 26 Apr 2002 08:26:39

Lol !

-John

> > >People, people, why so much discussion over something totally
> > >unimportant like LPI values, when there are so much more beautiful
> > >things in the world like LOVE?

> > >Andre / continuing work on a romantic poem for his girlfriend (hmm..
> > >what rhymes on hooters?)

> > Computers...<G>

> I wonder how long it will be before he comes back here asking us what
rymes
> with ***? :-)

> David G Fisher

by **Eldre** » Fri, 26 Apr 2002 11:06:00

>I wonder how long it will be before he comes back here asking us what rymes
>with ***? :-)

That's COLD, David...<g>

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by **Eldre** » Fri, 26 Apr 2002 11:06:00

>I said this in reply to David, who'd said something to the effect that he
>couldn't have raced much on Sierra.com if he'd tried to keep his lpi high.
>And I replied that I'd thrown myself into the melee and raced competitively
>even on the Papy servers, and still managed to keep the lpi high.

But, you're also a fast enough driver to stay out of reach of most of the
wrecker kiddies. I'm not, which means they can catch me and put me in the
wall. It's happened a COUPLE of times now. I'll be adding a few names to the
muzzle list on my server...

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by **Biz** » Fri, 26 Apr 2002 12:03:59

I don't believe anyone has stated its a perfect indicator. But its a reasonable indicator, that may
get better based on what the patch does. If you chose to drive previously with no regard for your
LPI, which has been part of your stats since N4, and I believe in some versions previous to N3,
thats really in all honesty is your own fault for making the assumption that it didn't matter when
clearly many of us thought it was and chose to treat it with some relevence.
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by **Andre Warrin** » Fri, 26 Apr 2002 23:44:18

On Wed, 24 Apr 2002 20:15:47 GMT, "David G Fisher"

>I wonder how long it will be before he comes back here asking us what rymes
>with ***? :-)

>David G Fisher

Well.. within a month she's going to move in with me so I wonder about
the same thing :)

Andre

by **Joachim Trens** » Sat, 27 Apr 2002 03:10:42

Hi Eldred,

I have to lap them though... ;-)

Achim

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by **Colin Harri** » Sat, 27 Apr 2002 01:55:24

Heh, it turns out that another guy in the race got charged for TWELVE
incidents, despite there only being 9 in the race!
Hmm......

by **Eldre** » Wed, 01 May 2002 02:40:13

>On Wed, 24 Apr 2002 20:15:47 GMT, "David G Fisher"

>>I wonder how long it will be before he comes back here asking us what rymes
>>with ***? :-)

>>David G Fisher

>Well.. within a month she's going to move in with me so I wonder about
>the same thing :)

Wow, THAT'S quick...

Eldred
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