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N2002 - LPI/IC bug!

John Pancoas

N2002 - LPI/IC bug!

by John Pancoas » Thu, 25 Apr 2002 02:40:38

  That'd be nice too.

-John



> >   Exactly Goy.  I can take or leave LPI ratings.........hey, how about
using
> > that programming time for an improved damage model ? <G>

> Or an AussieV8 sim....

> Beers and cheers
> (uncle) Goy

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Joachim Trens

N2002 - LPI/IC bug!

by Joachim Trens » Thu, 25 Apr 2002 05:39:28

That's also true :-)

Achim


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Joachim Trens

N2002 - LPI/IC bug!

by Joachim Trens » Thu, 25 Apr 2002 05:57:15

no religious feeling here about that - I just sound like that <g>

What I'm saying btw isn't that it's part of the drivers skill to guess which
races will be accident free - on the contrary. I'm saying it's an important
part of the drivers skill to even in messy races stay clean and clear of
accidents :-)

Which I am convinced BTW all the RASCAR guys I've seen racing without
exception are or will be very good at.

Achim


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Joachim Trens

N2002 - LPI/IC bug!

by Joachim Trens » Thu, 25 Apr 2002 05:58:49

gaga gagaga gaaa gaga gaaaga gaggaga - oops, I think I've been discussing
this for too long <g>

Achim



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> ....or he could be one of those who will do anything to win, including
> the T1 hero stuff and needs to pad his LPI to get over the "magical" LPI
> number deemed appropriate to participate in various races

> Most PW'ed races back on TEN where the the host wanted to screen your
> LPI would settle for around 20 usually

> If you do race a lot of pickup races, it's not uncommon, or at least it
> wasn't uncommon, to be in the 20-30 range, especially on the SS as you
> need to stay with the pack to have a prayer and you won't have much time
> to react when something happens

> Sorry, LPI *is* a tool for judging people's racing ability, but it's
> "just another tool" if you ask me, nice to have but I'm not going all ga
> ga over it :-)

> Now, an AussieV8 mod/add-on/patch on the other hand....:-)

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Goy Larse

N2002 - LPI/IC bug!

by Goy Larse » Thu, 25 Apr 2002 03:01:33


> no religious feeling here about that - I just sound like that <g>

> What I'm saying btw isn't that it's part of the drivers skill to guess which
> races will be accident free - on the contrary. I'm saying it's an important
> part of the drivers skill to even in messy races stay clean and clear of
> accidents :-)

> Which I am convinced BTW all the RASCAR guys I've seen racing without
> exception are or will be very good at.

Ah....so you haven't raced with Herr von Henrie yet then I take it :-)

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy

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Eric Busc

N2002 - LPI/IC bug!

by Eric Busc » Thu, 25 Apr 2002 04:48:18

This is the first time I've seen this reported.  It would seem to be road
course specific, but I really don't have any more insight on it at the
moment...

- Eric



Ed Solhei

N2002 - LPI/IC bug!

by Ed Solhei » Thu, 25 Apr 2002 04:59:08


> Andre / continuing work on a romantic poem for his girlfriend (hmm..
> what rhymes on hooters?)

Scooters?
;-)

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ed_

Colin Harri

N2002 - LPI/IC bug!

by Colin Harri » Thu, 25 Apr 2002 05:08:01


Thanks, Eric, if there's any further info you need just let me know.

Ed Solhei

N2002 - LPI/IC bug!

by Ed Solhei » Thu, 25 Apr 2002 05:17:55

It seems to me like most of you are overlooking the point...    the aim with
LPI restriction is not to limit races for anyone the got under 1000 LPI or
whatever - but it's to endorse and promote clean racing...   and if this
feature make us all go out get ned ID's and then start  running lots of laps
cleanly - when then the objective is reached -  no?

It's worth pointing out that if anyone decide to create a new ID in the aim
of getting a better LPI - there will still one oher factor to think of - the
skill point...   Which means that now folks have to start over racing for
new skill point - cleanly!  What good is your  800 LPI if your skill level
is still 2 and the race recquire 6!?!?

For those who just run league races, the LPI is bound to get high yes.. -
but my guess is that the skill levels on the otherhand will remain pretty
low.

The objective here is not to see who got the biggest....  LPI (!) - but to
promote and ensure cleanER races...   So the next time one of decide to
enter a 40% 6-10 race at Dega - we wont have to wonder how many of the cars
beside us can complete 20 laps without wrecking twice!

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ed_

"David G Fisher" said:

Admi

N2002 - LPI/IC bug!

by Admi » Thu, 25 Apr 2002 05:19:27


Not really JS, I support you an your product, maybe I should use my real
screenie here so you want slam me so hard next time. My advice to Papy,
charge the single car in single car accidents, and the first 2 to make
contact otherwise. Don't blame me for driving blind into a smoke filled
corner and hitting the idiots that started it, especially if they are strung
from top to bottom with no opening for me to go through.

I have a great connection and have still gotten charged ICs when I finished
1st and didn't touch a soul. There where a ton of wrecks, none of which I
were a part of, still 1 or 2 IC's. If they are going to base something like
a restriction on this crazy stat, it should at least work first.

I guess, but it means racing a ton of idiots before being allowed into the
'click' with their LPI restricted servers.

I still lurk in there with a 'throw away' screen name just to keep tabs on
possible recruits for my league. And the recruiting that I have done has
shown me a lot about guys with low LPIs NOT being an accurate indicator of
their actual driving skill. I don't think accident avoidence is any more
skill than luck or even fate.

Again, I thought this sim was about racing, not *statting*. And I take back
defending your fictional prose earlier too :(

Andre Warring

N2002 - LPI/IC bug!

by Andre Warring » Thu, 25 Apr 2002 05:29:20

On Tue, 23 Apr 2002 18:46:49 -0000, "Joachim Trensz"


>:-)

>I've been together with my wife for 14 years, and I still love her deeply.
>Almost incredible, but true :-)

>Achim

14 years?? Jeez.. and I was allready proud that I go steady with my
girl for two whole months! :)

Andre

Andre Warring

N2002 - LPI/IC bug!

by Andre Warring » Thu, 25 Apr 2002 05:29:45




>> Andre / continuing work on a romantic poem for his girlfriend (hmm..
>> what rhymes on hooters?)

>Scooters?
>;-)

Tsskk... you are SO un-romantic!

Andre

Admi

N2002 - LPI/IC bug!

by Admi » Thu, 25 Apr 2002 05:02:27


Not true, my LPI is 0 (thats zero) and I statisically win 22% of the races I
run (since N4 came out anyway, was more IN N3/CTS and less in N3). So since
I run private, IP league races and have no ratings and no LPI stat, I have
to shlep through SS races on Sierra to buildup enough of an LPI to get into
races with guys that are likely no better than me...I don't think so. I
thought this sim was supposed to be about racing, not who is good enough to
race on certain servers...I guess that is my main gripe with this whole
deal, NASCAR Racing is supposed to be about racing, not who avoided enough
wrecks to race with a certain click.

Joachim Trens

N2002 - LPI/IC bug!

by Joachim Trens » Thu, 25 Apr 2002 08:54:44

The lpi will bring people with a similar idea of what is 'good' racing
together.

As for having to build up an lpi, I can't see anything unusual with that.
It's like everywhere else in racing - you start in a lower class, and once
your skill level improves, you get to race against others of a similarly
higher skill level in the next higher class.

Achim


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Joachim Trens

N2002 - LPI/IC bug!

by Joachim Trens » Thu, 25 Apr 2002 08:56:55

Hi Ed,

very well said <bg>

Achim


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