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by **Eldre** » Sat, 19 May 2001 22:51:14

>Anyone interested in riding or otherwise getting into motorcycles should be
>required to go through the MSF course.

"Should be required", as in, they're not NOW?

Eldred
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by **Eldre** » Sat, 19 May 2001 22:51:15

writes:

Yeah, right. You riding it to Belle Isle this year?<g>

Eldred
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by **Eldre** » Sat, 19 May 2001 22:51:14

>What brought this on? I certainly agree but for only the "newbees." We
>know that Eldred has no intentions of getting a motorcycle or at least it
>was just to 'razz' him a bit.. Now we are into MSF? Phew..What next
>seat'belts on motorcycles?

How do you know I have no intentions of getting a motorcycle, Thom?

Eldred
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by **Rick Fis** » Sat, 19 May 2001 23:12:41

Eldred,

Here in Michigan a simple written test will get you a motorcycle license.
And they wonder why most biker deaths happen in the first six months of
riding - sheesh.

Rick

> >Anyone interested in riding or otherwise getting into motorcycles should
be
> >required to go through the MSF course.

> "Should be required", as in, they're not NOW?

> Eldred
> --
> Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001
> Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett
> F1 hcp. +25.37...F2 +151.26...

> Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats
you
> with experience...
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by **Uncle Feste** » Sat, 19 May 2001 23:27:00

> >Anyone interested in riding or otherwise getting into motorcycles should be
> >required to go through the MSF course.

> "Should be required", as in, they're not NOW?

Required by law here in Michigan? No. Only a riding test & written
test are required to get your cycle endor***t. Not much to them.

But those safety courses are essential IMHO if you want to ride out on
our crazy roads & survive for any length of time. <g>

--

Fester

by **Don Scurlo** » Sun, 20 May 2001 03:50:49

fq.aol.com>:

>>Anyone interested in riding or otherwise getting into motorcycles should be
>>required to go through the MSF course.

>"Should be required", as in, they're not NOW?

Not here in Vancouver. You can go into a bike shop, put down you money on a
150hp rocket, and drive away without even producing so much as a drivers
license. No different than for cars, but for a disturbing number of people
their first ride on a bike is their last ride, because of their extreme
performance levels and skill requirements . I learned to ride, as do most
people, by taking a course at the "School of Hard Knocks", and I don't
recommend it. Take a MSF course. Some will provide the bike, which allows you
to experience motorcycles in a safe environment with competent instruction, and
if you decide it's not for you, you've spent a few bucks on an interesting
experience with no further commitment. If you do get into riding you'll have
some solid skills to start with, and I believe that in some areas the MSF
courses help in getting you licensed, qualify you for reduced insurance rates,
and even deals on new bike purchases. It's the smart/safe way to go.

--
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by **Thom j** » Sun, 20 May 2001 05:28:48

Are ya?? Well Congrads!!! <G>

| How do you know I have no intentions of getting a motorcycle, Thom?
| Eldred
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by **Thom j** » Sun, 20 May 2001 05:33:15

They are required here Rick in "The Garbage State" aka NJ...But of course
we only have about 8billion vehicles on our roads a day! phew Hey maybe
we should be called "The Payment State" instead...eh? hahaha
Cheers Thom_j.

by **Thom j** » Sun, 20 May 2001 05:35:43

I've alwayz preferred "doing it in the dirt" anywayz Uncle Fester <g>

| Required by law here in Michigan? No. Only a riding test & written
| test are required to get your cycle endor***t. Not much to them.
|
| But those safety courses are essential IMHO if you want to ride out on
| our crazy roads & survive for any length of time. <g>
| --
| Fester

by **Eldre** » Sun, 20 May 2001 14:45:30

>Eldred,

>Here in Michigan a simple written test will get you a motorcycle license.
>And they wonder why most biker deaths happen in the first six months of
>riding - sheesh.

I didn't know it was that easy to get a license. I just figured you had to go
through some kind of training just as with a car... I'd want to take a class
anyway, but I don't know of anyone who'd loan me a bike to do the course. Are
there any that have motorcycles provided?

Eldred
--
Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001
Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett
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by **Uncle Feste** » Mon, 21 May 2001 04:49:30

> >Eldred,

> >Here in Michigan a simple written test will get you a motorcycle license.
> >And they wonder why most biker deaths happen in the first six months of
> >riding - sheesh.

> I didn't know it was that easy to get a license. I just figured you had to go
> through some kind of training just as with a car... I'd want to take a class
> anyway, but I don't know of anyone who'd loan me a bike to do the course. Are
> there any that have motorcycles provided?

Most colleges have them in the spring & summer. I took mine at WCCC &
they provided the bikes.

--

Fester

by **Thom j** » Mon, 21 May 2001 05:47:19

Gee guyz in the 60s we didnt have this option so it was "git on and
crank that sucker up!" I do' believe that all 'first time riders' should
have somekind of instructions tho'... I was lucky enuff to have one
of AMA's top 10 teach me back then! I raced before I ever went
on the highway and I'd race again if I could!! <g>

| Most colleges have them in the spring & summer. I took mine at WCCC &
| they provided the bikes.
| --
| Fester

by **Uncle Feste** » Mon, 21 May 2001 06:35:56

> Gee guyz in the 60s we didnt have this option so it was "git on and
> crank that sucker up!" I do' believe that all 'first time riders' should
> have somekind of instructions tho'... I was lucky enuff to have one
> of AMA's top 10 teach me back then! I raced before I ever went
> on the highway and I'd race again if I could!! <g>

Agreed. But back in the 60's the roads, at least in this area,
contained about 1/4 the volume of cars they do today. And somehow
people were a little more courteous to others as well. IMO. :-)

--

Fester

by **Thom j** » Mon, 21 May 2001 09:06:28

Ur right Uncle Fester.. I guess I am showing my age now?...<g>

by **Mike Whit** » Tue, 22 May 2001 12:41:42

We've seen you drive GPL.. we understand :)

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