ATI Radeon 9500–9800

discussed in 1,216 posts, 2002-2008 · overall tone positive

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Key threads

• NR2003 frame rates fall after Radeon 9700 Pro upgrade 2003-03-16 · 39 posts
  Mark Davison found NR2003 and NR2002 frame rates dropped after moving from a Ti4200 to a Radeon 9700 Pro on a new nForce2 system. Suggestions included reinstalling Windows, checking BIOS and Vsync settings, and using Direct3D, and others noted the Radeon's advantage only appears with anti-aliasing and high resolutions. Mark eventually found a faulty memory module and concluded Papyrus games ran comparably on both cards.
• Is the Radeon 9700 Pro worth it for NR2003? 2003-02-10 · 32 posts
  Larry asked how the Radeon 9700 Pro performed in NR2003 compared with his Ti4400, given his past bad experiences with ATI drivers. Owners reported good stability with Catalyst drivers, which ATI updated to 3.1 with NR2003 fixes, but Don Burnette found only modest gains since the game was CPU-limited. Larry decided to wait for a price drop.
• Choosing between Radeon 9700 Pro, GeForce FX and Ti4600 2003-01-27 · 27 posts
  A user upgrading for NR2003 asked whether to buy a GeForce4 Ti4600, a Radeon 9700 Pro or the new GeForce FX. Most recommended the 9700 Pro, saying ATI's driver problems were in the past and early FX reviews were disappointing. Several discussed soft-modding a Radeon 9500 into a 9700, with mixed success reports.
• ATI Radeon 9700 Pro performance and driver reputation 2002-09-11 · 90 posts
  A poster asked why the ATI Radeon 9700 Pro, a big jump over the GeForce4, was not being discussed. Early reports were mixed in NR2002, with slow performance blamed on leftover nVidia drivers, and a long argument followed over whether ATI's poor driver reputation was still deserved. The cross-posted thread degenerated into AMD versus Intel brand loyalty and complaints about off-topic posting.
• Hardware needed for good GTR2002 frame rates 2003-01-15 · 37 posts
  A Voodoo 5 owner asked what hardware would give 50 fps in GTR2002 with a full field. Suggestions included a Radeon 9500/9700 or GeForce4 Ti, and Joe M. explained that only the non-Pro 9500 can be soft-modded to a 9700. Damien Smith doubted any system could hold 50 fps from the back of a full grid. Texture corruption on Radeons was fixed by cleaning old nVidia registry entries with Reg Cleaner.
• Missing trackside textures in GPL on Radeon cards 2003-02-25 · 35 posts
  BRH reported that trees and stands disappeared in GPL on Radeon 8500 and 9700 Pro cards. Moving the ATI texture preference slider to performance fixed it, and Jon Ferraez blamed Catalyst 3.1 drivers and noted the GPL OpenGL patch was made for Nvidia cards. Gerry Aitken and Joachim Trensz reported excellent GPL frame rates on the 9700, disputing Marc Collins's complaints of poor support.
• ATI Radeon 9800 Pro versus Nvidia FX 5900 Ultra 2003-09-06 · 34 posts
  A link to DirectX 9 pixel shader benchmarks started a debate over ATI and Nvidia cards. Roger Squires and Tim Miser cited Nvidia's benchmark cheating and weak DX9 performance, while Cyber Chum and Larry argued ATI's drivers were still less reliable in some games. Half-Life 2 benchmarks favouring ATI tipped several posters towards the 9800 Pro.
• User reports on the Radeon 9700 2002-09-27 · 32 posts
  Roger Squires reported a flawless Radeon 9700 experience in an old Athlon 700 system, but James Muir noted it could not do anti-aliasing in 16-bit mode, which GPL requires. Others reported crashes, blurry 2D at high resolution and board revision issues, and several argued a CPU upgrade would have given more benefit. Squires explained the Voodoo3 could no longer run new titles.
• Radeon 9500 or 9700 graphics card upgrade 2003-07-14 · 33 posts
  Andre Warringa asked about a Club3D Radeon 9500, learned the faster 9500 Pro was sold out and the 9600 Pro was sometimes slower, and bought a Radeon 9700 instead. After installing it he reported F1C running smoothly at maximum detail. Much of the thread was banter about concerts.
• Radeon 9800 performs worse than Ti4400 in NR2003 2003-05-03 · 26 posts
  GLeger found his new Radeon 9800 gave worse NR2003 frame rates and corrupted graphics compared with his Ti4400, despite a fresh Windows install. Suggestions included Direct3D, disabling Vsync, checking the AGP setting and ATI driver tweaks, and reviews were cited showing the 9800 Pro is faster than the 9700 Pro. The thread ended in a discussion of what formatting a drive actually erases.
• Radeon 9500 Pro disappoints in GPL 2003-01-16 · 20 posts
  Steve Smith found his new Radeon 9500 Pro fast in modern games but slower than his old GeForce2 in GPL, with artifacts and less stable drivers. Others explained that only the non-Pro 9500 can be soft-modded, and noted that nVidia has traditionally been stronger in OpenGL. Reg Cleaner fixed his texture corruption.
• Budget upgrade and overclocking advice for a Sempron PC 2005-09-30 · 41 posts
  A user with a Sempron 2800+ and Radeon 9800 Pro asked how to cheaply improve performance ahead of GT Legends. Most advised against piecemeal upgrades and suggested saving for a full PCI-E system, or overclocking instead. He then overclocked the CPU with Prime95 testing but found the 9800 Pro barely overclocked, and his motherboard turned out not to support an Athlon XP 3200+, so he considered moving to an Athlon 64 system.
• RASCAR server plans and GeForce FX Ultra cancellation reports 2003-02-09 · 30 posts
  John Simmons asked EldredP to buy NR2003 and host the RASCAR server more often, which Eldred agreed to. The talk turned to video cards after reports that Nvidia had stopped production of the GeForce FX Ultra over noise and heat, with posters weighing the Radeon 9700 Pro and Ti4600.
• Radeon 9700 Pro FSAA performance in sims 2002-11-13 · 23 posts
  Owners reported that the Radeon 9700 Pro ran NR2002 at 1600x1200 with 4x FSAA and little frame-rate cost, though Tim Miser could not match those numbers. Posters noted that FSAA did not apply to 16-bit GPL. They also discussed ghost-car glitches and whether nVidia's delayed NV30 could compete on price.
• Best $200 upgrade for F1 Challenge mods 2004-04-22 · 35 posts
  Martin Granberg (Rudeboy) asked whether to upgrade his CPU, GPU or RAM to improve F1 Challenge mod frame rates. Advice was split between a Radeon 9800 Pro and a faster Barton CPU. After buying the 9800 Pro he saw little gain, and others suggested driver cleanup, AGP settings and checking CPU load, while Eldred found his own CPU pegged at 100%.

Busiest threads

• NR2003 frame rates fall after Radeon 9700 Pro upgrade (19 posts about it)
• ATI vid card feedback please. (16 posts about it)
• Is the Radeon 9700 Pro worth it for NR2003? (16 posts about it)
• Choosing between Radeon 9700 Pro, GeForce FX and Ti4600 (16 posts about it)
• ATI Radeon 9700 Pro performance and driver reputation (16 posts about it)
• Hardware needed for good GTR2002 frame rates (14 posts about it)
• Missing trackside textures in GPL on Radeon cards (13 posts about it)
• Anyone Simming with an o'clocked Radeon 9500? (13 posts about it)
• Powercolor 9800 SE - opinions? (12 posts about it)
• ATI Radeon 9800 Pro versus Nvidia FX 5900 Ultra (12 posts about it)
• User reports on the Radeon 9700 (12 posts about it)
• How do you like your video card? (11 posts about it)
• Radeon 9500 or 9700 graphics card upgrade (11 posts about it)
• Radeon 9800 performs worse than Ti4400 in NR2003 (11 posts about it)
• Radeon 9500 Pro disappoints in GPL (11 posts about it)

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Who talked about it most

Dave Henrie · 47 BRH · 44 Larry · 33 Tim Miser · 32 MadDAWG · 31 Don Burnette · 23 Goy Larsen · 22 Steve Smith · 22 Joe M. · 22 bertr · 22 Roger Squires · 20 Andrew MacPherson · 19 Mitch_A · 19 Mark Davison · 19 Aidee · 19 Uwe Schuerkamp · 18 John Simmons · 18 Joachim Trensz · 17 Verne "fnugen" Harris · 14 magnulus · 14

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