You buy the sim yet?
We need a place to race and build up our LPI. :)
Would it be possible to setup the server to be available more often
so that we have a place to setup impromptu races? Maybe two days per
week along with Saturday?
RASCAR server plans and GeForce FX Ultra cancellation reports
John Simmons asked EldredP to buy NR2003 and host the RASCAR server more often, which Eldred agreed to. The talk turned to video cards after reports that Nvidia had stopped production of the GeForce FX Ultra over noise and heat, with posters weighing the Radeon 9700 Pro and Ti4600.
Automated summary.
In article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says...
One last thing, I'm recommending the nVidia because it appears as if
more people have good luck with those across a wider range of system
configurations. Less problems means more racing. :)
Quoted text (9 lines)
> You buy the sim yet? > > We need a place to race and build up our LPI. :) > > Would it be possible to setup the server to be available more often > so that we have a place to setup impromptu races? Maybe two days per > week along with Saturday? > >I would have to agree.
ATI has a nice card in the 9700 Pro, but it's still ATI and ATI, while
greatly improved over the last year, still doesn't have their driver game up
to par IMHO.
The FX is due any day.
Larry
"John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (15 lines)
> In article <[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] says... > > You buy the sim yet? > > > > We need a place to race and build up our LPI. :) > > > > Would it be possible to setup the server to be available more often > > so that we have a place to setup impromptu races? Maybe two days per > > week along with Saturday? > > > > > > One last thing, I'm recommending the nVidia because it appears as if > more people have good luck with those across a wider range of system > configurations. Less problems means more racing. :)In article <zkw1a.15244$[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says...
FX production has been stopped. nVidia is dumping it.
Quoted text (8 lines)
> I would have to agree. > > ATI has a nice card in the 9700 Pro, but it's still ATI and ATI, while > greatly improved over the last year, still doesn't have their driver game up > to par IMHO. > > The FX is due any day. >John Simmons
>>
>> The FX is due any day.
>>
>
> FX production has been stopped. nVidia is dumping it.
>
wha/???? link please...
dh
"John Simmons" wrote...
> <snip>
>
> FX production has been stopped. nVidia is dumping it.
Hello? -Can they dump a card and some drivers my way? <g>
Jan.
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"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
Most of the stories link back to: http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=7615
We shall see...
Quoted text (10 lines)
> John Simmons > >> > >> The FX is due any day. > >> > > > > FX production has been stopped. nVidia is dumping it. > > > > wha/???? link please... > dhIn article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
says...
It's all over the net. They made 100,000 cards and decided that the
complaints about noise and heat, and the "two-slot solution" was
enough reason to move on down the road. I certainly wouldn't buy one
since the card isn't reasonably faster than the 9700 Pro.
Quoted text (11 lines)
> John Simmons > >> > >> The FX is due any day. > >> > > > > FX production has been stopped. nVidia is dumping it. > > > > wha/???? link please... > dh >FX, hehe..
Larry how can you have an opinion on something you don't own? I mean really
dude, you had an issue with ATI drivers in the past yet you say they don't
have there driver game up... And you know this how? When you get a
9500/9700pro using cat3's and have problems then we want to hear your
opinion.
I do agree on the nvidia selection in this case though.
Mitch
"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:zkw1a.15244$[email hidden]...
> I would have to agree.
>
> ATI has a nice card in the 9700 Pro, but it's still ATI and ATI, while
> greatly improved over the last year, still doesn't have their driver gameup
Quoted text (25 lines)
> to par IMHO. > > The FX is due any day. > > Larry > > "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > In article <[email hidden]>, > > [email hidden] says... > > > You buy the sim yet? > > > > > > We need a place to race and build up our LPI. :) > > > > > > Would it be possible to setup the server to be available more often > > > so that we have a place to setup impromptu races? Maybe two days per > > > week along with Saturday? > > > > > > > > > > One last thing, I'm recommending the nVidia because it appears as if > > more people have good luck with those across a wider range of system > > configurations. Less problems means more racing. :) > >"John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
I got the impression that ATI's sooner than expected ramp-up to release of
the 9900 was the main factor. They're apparently getting such good yields
that the production (& retail) costs will be lower than the 9700's, with
greater performance to boot. Since the FX was not head-and-shoulders above
the 9700 (if at all), they didn't want to produce a lot of cards that would
not only end up getting dumped with little or no margin, but would erode the
NVidia brand image as well. So they're plowing ahead with the next-gen card
instead. Sometimes it's best to retreat and plan for the next battle... ;-)
SB
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> In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] > says... > > John Simmons > > >> > > >> The FX is due any day. > > >> > > > > > > FX production has been stopped. nVidia is dumping it. > > > > > > > wha/???? link please... > > dh > > > > It's all over the net. They made 100,000 cards and decided that the > complaints about noise and heat, and the "two-slot solution" was > enough reason to move on down the road. I certainly wouldn't buy one > since the card isn't reasonably faster than the 9700 Pro.In article <[email hidden]>, John Simmons
<[email hidden]> writes:
Yes, and yes. I'll be putting another GPL server online this week, so I can
keep the NASCAR server open... How about monday and thursday? Gotta download
and configure DeMONS first, though.
Eldred
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> >You buy the sim yet? > >We need a place to race and build up our LPI. :) > >Would it be possible to setup the server to be available more often >so that we have a place to setup impromptu races? Maybe two days per >week along with Saturday? >In article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says...
D3 ain't ready for NR2K3 yet. :(
Hopefully sometime this week though...
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> In article <[email hidden]>, John Simmons > <[email hidden]> writes: > > > > >You buy the sim yet? > > > >We need a place to race and build up our LPI. :) > > > >Would it be possible to setup the server to be available more often > >so that we have a place to setup impromptu races? Maybe two days per > >week along with Saturday? > > > > Yes, and yes. I'll be putting another GPL server online this week, so I can > keep the NASCAR server open... How about monday and thursday? Gotta download > and configure DeMONS first, though. > > Eldred >"Steve Blankenship"
Sometimes
> it's best to retreat and plan for the next battle... ;-)
>
> SB
>
Isn't that what 3dfx did??
:)
dave henrie
"Steve Blankenship"
Sometimes
Isn't that what 3dfx did??
:)
dave henrie
My new 9700 Pro is kicking butt, reformatted XP Pro yesterday and installed
the ATI card - very pleased.
I was holding out for the FX, but after reading some reviews I elected to go
with the Radeon card - my first one.
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"Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> FX, hehe..
>
> Larry how can you have an opinion on something you don't own? I mean
really
> dude, you had an issue with ATI drivers in the past yet you say they don't
> have there driver game up... And you know this how? When you get a
> 9500/9700pro using cat3's and have problems then we want to hear your
> opinion.
>
> I do agree on the nvidia selection in this case though.
>
> Mitch
>
>
> "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:zkw1a.15244$[email hidden]...
> > I would have to agree.
> >
> > ATI has a nice card in the 9700 Pro, but it's still ATI and ATI, while
> > greatly improved over the last year, still doesn't have their driver
game
> up
> > to par IMHO.
> >
> > The FX is due any day.
> >
> > Larry
> >
> > "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> > news:[email hidden]...
> > > In article <[email hidden]>,
> > > [email hidden] says...
> > > > You buy the sim yet?
> > > >
> > > > We need a place to race and build up our LPI. :)
> > > >
> > > > Would it be possible to setup the server to be available more often
> > > > so that we have a place to setup impromptu races? Maybe two days per
> > > > week along with Saturday?
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > One last thing, I'm recommending the nVidia because it appears as if
> > > more people have good luck with those across a wider range of system
> > > configurations. Less problems means more racing. :)
> >
> >
>
>
In article <[email hidden]>, John Simmons
<[email hidden]> writes:
>One last thing, I'm recommending the nVidia because it appears as if
>more people have good luck with those across a wider range of system
>configurations. Less problems means more racing. :)
GF Ti4600, right? I'll see if Best Buy has it...
Eldred
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In article <[email hidden]>,
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I think you'll get a better price oonline somewhere. :)
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> In article <[email hidden]>, John Simmons > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >One last thing, I'm recommending the nVidia because it appears as if > >more people have good luck with those across a wider range of system > >configurations. Less problems means more racing. :) > > GF Ti4600, right? I'll see if Best Buy has it... > > Eldred >"John Simmons" writes:
> > GF Ti4600, right? I'll see if Best Buy has it...
> >
> > Eldred
> >
>
> I think you'll get a better price oonline somewhere. :)
Indeed you will...
Best Buy has a Ti4600 listed at $299.
http://www.bestbuy.com/detail.asp?e=11183715&m=488&cat=521&scat=522
Using Pricewatch I found this New York webshop that sell the Asus V8460
Ultra GF 4 Ti4600 for $199 + shipping...
http://www.shentech.com/asaggeti12dd.html
There's also http://www.directron.com/ti46002.html that offer free UPS
ground service shipping on the same card for $209
I got this very card and it's a good buy - even though I plan to switch to a
Radeon 9500 as soon as it arrives in stock. Why the "step back" ? - Well...
I'm not *totally* pleased with it's performance and I have the oppertunity
to do some back to back tests and then decide what to keep :o)
My system specs are abit different then Eldred's though...
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$10 says Petter Solberg wins the 2003 WRC.
Ed Solheim wrote:
>
> I got this very card and it's a good buy - even though I plan to switch to a
> Radeon 9500 as soon as it arrives in stock.
I have them in stock :-), well, actually my supplier does, but that's
about the same thing :-)
Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
"goyl at nettx dot no"
http://www.theuspits.com
"A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
--Groucho Marx--
In Eldreds case a 4600 will cause his CPU to puke blood, without any
advanced features enabled to boot. Wouldnt a better idea be to upgrade his
mobo/cpu and then throw in a 4200 all for not a heckuva lot more than the
4600 alone? (Im using $200 as the baseline) If E is planning a CPU upgrade
soon then this is irrelevant.
"Ed Solheim" <edwins[_REMOVE_]@[ _THIS_]online.no> wrote in message
news:3sS1a.21167$[email hidden]...
a
> Radeon 9500 as soon as it arrives in stock. Why the "step back" ? -Well...
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> "John Simmons" writes: > > > > GF Ti4600, right? I'll see if Best Buy has it... > > > > > > Eldred > > > > > > > I think you'll get a better price oonline somewhere. :) > > Indeed you will... > > Best Buy has a Ti4600 listed at $299. > http://www.bestbuy.com/detail.asp?e=11183715&m=488&cat=521&scat=522 > > Using Pricewatch I found this New York webshop that sell the Asus V8460 > Ultra GF 4 Ti4600 for $199 + shipping... > > http://www.shentech.com/asaggeti12dd.html > > There's also http://www.directron.com/ti46002.html that offer free UPS > ground service shipping on the same card for $209 > > I got this very card and it's a good buy - even though I plan to switch toQuoted text (17 lines)
> I'm not *totally* pleased with it's performance and I have the oppertunity > to do some back to back tests and then decide what to keep :o) > > My system specs are abit different then Eldred's though... > > > -- > ed_ > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > $10 says Petter Solberg wins the 2003 WRC. > > > > > >"Goy Larsen" said:
> Ed Solheim wrote:
> >
> > I got this very card and it's a good buy - even though I plan to switchto a
> > Radeon 9500 as soon as it arrives in stock.
>
> I have them in stock :-), well, actually my supplier does, but that's
> about the same thing :-)
Grrr... knew there was somewhere I had forgotten to check....
Oh well... it's on order from a different supplier now.... :o(
Btw, how much do you take for the 128mb 9500 non-pro cards? :-)
Oh Goy.. I should also let you know that I wont been needing a copy of N2003
this year... I didn't want to miss the first RASCAR race and got Eldred to
pick-up a copy for me... Sorry... I just couldn't wait :o)
OH - But, I'd still love to meet up for a cuppa with Matt though...
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Close :)
The ULTRA has been stopped. The normal FX is still supposed to be available
at retail. Only certain people who pre-ordered Ultra's will get them.
And I have NO idea what that actually means performance wise, compared to
ATI yet. I gotta go read up on what the hell is going on.
Larry
"John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
> In article <zkw1a.15244$[email hidden]>,
> [email hidden] says...
> > I would have to agree.
> >
> > ATI has a nice card in the 9700 Pro, but it's still ATI and ATI, while
> > greatly improved over the last year, still doesn't have their drivergame up
> > to par IMHO.
> >
> > The FX is due any day.
> >
>
> FX production has been stopped. nVidia is dumping it.
At least HardOCP is saying it's only the Ultra that's canned...
I think nVidia needs to do a press release or something...
Larry
"Steve Blankenship" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=7615
>
> We shall see...
>
>
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> "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > John Simmons > > >> > > >> The FX is due any day. > > >> > > > > > > FX production has been stopped. nVidia is dumping it. > > > > > > > wha/???? link please... > > dh > > Most of the stories link back to:I HAVE owned ATI cards (many), and I can read Mitch.
Larry
"Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:GVx1a.110$[email hidden]...
> FX, hehe..
>
> Larry how can you have an opinion on something you don't own? I meanreally
game
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> dude, you had an issue with ATI drivers in the past yet you say they don't > have there driver game up... And you know this how? When you get a > 9500/9700pro using cat3's and have problems then we want to hear your > opinion. > > I do agree on the nvidia selection in this case though. > > Mitch > > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:zkw1a.15244$[email hidden]... > > I would have to agree. > > > > ATI has a nice card in the 9700 Pro, but it's still ATI and ATI, while > > greatly improved over the last year, still doesn't have their driverQuoted text (28 lines)
> up > > to par IMHO. > > > > The FX is due any day. > > > > Larry > > > > "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > In article <[email hidden]>, > > > [email hidden] says... > > > > You buy the sim yet? > > > > > > > > We need a place to race and build up our LPI. :) > > > > > > > > Would it be possible to setup the server to be available more often > > > > so that we have a place to setup impromptu races? Maybe two days per > > > > week along with Saturday? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One last thing, I'm recommending the nVidia because it appears as if > > > more people have good luck with those across a wider range of system > > > configurations. Less problems means more racing. :) > > > > > >I may do the same now. ATI drivers or no ATI drivers.
Damn... Well, if the FX Ultra ain't all that, then maybe it's for the best.
What's the 9700 Pro going for these days?
Larry
"Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
> My new 9700 Pro is kicking butt, reformatted XP Pro yesterday andinstalled
> the ATI card - very pleased.
> I was holding out for the FX, but after reading some reviews I elected togo
don't
often
> > > > > so that we have a place to setup impromptu races? Maybe two daysper
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> with the Radeon card - my first one. > > > -- > Don Burnette > > > "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:GVx1a.110$[email hidden]... > > FX, hehe.. > > > > Larry how can you have an opinion on something you don't own? I mean > really > > dude, you had an issue with ATI drivers in the past yet you say theyQuoted text (32 lines)
> > have there driver game up... And you know this how? When you get a > > 9500/9700pro using cat3's and have problems then we want to hear your > > opinion. > > > > I do agree on the nvidia selection in this case though. > > > > Mitch > > > > > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:zkw1a.15244$[email hidden]... > > > I would have to agree. > > > > > > ATI has a nice card in the 9700 Pro, but it's still ATI and ATI, while > > > greatly improved over the last year, still doesn't have their driver > game > > up > > > to par IMHO. > > > > > > The FX is due any day. > > > > > > Larry > > > > > > "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > In article <[email hidden]>, > > > > [email hidden] says... > > > > > You buy the sim yet? > > > > > > > > > > We need a place to race and build up our LPI. :) > > > > > > > > > > Would it be possible to setup the server to be available moreQuoted text (12 lines)
> > > > > week along with Saturday? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One last thing, I'm recommending the nVidia because it appears as if > > > > more people have good luck with those across a wider range of system > > > > configurations. Less problems means more racing. :) > > > > > > > > > > >
Ed Solheim wrote:
>
> Grrr... knew there was somewhere I had forgotten to check....
> Oh well... it's on order from a different supplier now.... :o(
>
> Btw, how much do you take for the 128mb 9500 non-pro cards? :-)
Sorry, no non PRO 9500's, about 1800 for the PRO
> Oh Goy.. I should also let you know that I wont been needing a copy of N2003
> this year... I didn't want to miss the first RASCAR race and got Eldred to
> pick-up a copy for me... Sorry... I just couldn't wait :o)
>
> OH - But, I'd still love to meet up for a cuppa with Matt though...
No worries......and yes, we def need to meet for a cuppa as usual
Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
"goyl at nettx dot no"
http://www.theuspits.com
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From Newegg around 330 bucks.
This is the first time I have ever spent that kind of bucks on a video card.
It is nice for now at least.
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"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:TKT1a.22187$[email hidden]...
> I may do the same now. ATI drivers or no ATI drivers.
>
> Damn... Well, if the FX Ultra ain't all that, then maybe it's for the
best.
>
> What's the 9700 Pro going for these days?
>
> Larry
>
> "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:[email hidden]...
> > My new 9700 Pro is kicking butt, reformatted XP Pro yesterday and
> installed
> > the ATI card - very pleased.
> > I was holding out for the FX, but after reading some reviews I elected
to
> go
> > with the Radeon card - my first one.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Don Burnette
> >
> >
> > "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> > news:GVx1a.110$[email hidden]...
> > > FX, hehe..
> > >
> > > Larry how can you have an opinion on something you don't own? I mean
> > really
> > > dude, you had an issue with ATI drivers in the past yet you say they
> don't
> > > have there driver game up... And you know this how? When you get a
> > > 9500/9700pro using cat3's and have problems then we want to hear your
> > > opinion.
> > >
> > > I do agree on the nvidia selection in this case though.
> > >
> > > Mitch
> > >
> > >
> > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> > > news:zkw1a.15244$[email hidden]...
> > > > I would have to agree.
> > > >
> > > > ATI has a nice card in the 9700 Pro, but it's still ATI and ATI,
while
> > > > greatly improved over the last year, still doesn't have their driver
> > game
> > > up
> > > > to par IMHO.
> > > >
> > > > The FX is due any day.
> > > >
> > > > Larry
> > > >
> > > > "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> > > > news:[email hidden]...
> > > > > In article <[email hidden]>,
> > > > > [email hidden] says...
> > > > > > You buy the sim yet?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We need a place to race and build up our LPI. :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Would it be possible to setup the server to be available more
> often
> > > > > > so that we have a place to setup impromptu races? Maybe two days
> per
> > > > > > week along with Saturday?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > One last thing, I'm recommending the nVidia because it appears as
if
> > > > > more people have good luck with those across a wider range of
system
> > > > > configurations. Less problems means more racing. :)
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
I was hoping it would have gone through a price reduction by now. I was
really suprised to find a 5 month old card still going for the original sale
prices.
I'm getting 60fps with my Ti4400 and not much turned off (I don't like
Shadows anyway) so I'll hold off until the Retail price drops to $299 or the
next round of cards come out.
The GeForce FX cards that ARE going to hit the shelves still might be
interesting, but frankly not if they are going to cost $399 like it seems
they will. I'd spend that on a 9700 Pro before I spent it on a neutered
GeForce FX 5800 card.
Larry
"Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
> From Newegg around 330 bucks.
> This is the first time I have ever spent that kind of bucks on a videocard.
mean
> > > really
> > > > dude, you had an issue with ATI drivers in the past yet you say they
> > don't
> > > > have there driver game up... And you know this how? When you get a
> > > > 9500/9700pro using cat3's and have problems then we want to hearyour
driver
days
> > per
> > > > > > > week along with Saturday?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > One last thing, I'm recommending the nVidia because it appearsas
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> It is nice for now at least. > > -- > Don Burnette > > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:TKT1a.22187$[email hidden]... > > I may do the same now. ATI drivers or no ATI drivers. > > > > Damn... Well, if the FX Ultra ain't all that, then maybe it's for the > best. > > > > What's the 9700 Pro going for these days? > > > > Larry > > > > "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > My new 9700 Pro is kicking butt, reformatted XP Pro yesterday and > > installed > > > the ATI card - very pleased. > > > I was holding out for the FX, but after reading some reviews I elected > to > > go > > > with the Radeon card - my first one. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Don Burnette > > > > > > > > > "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:GVx1a.110$[email hidden]... > > > > FX, hehe.. > > > > > > > > Larry how can you have an opinion on something you don't own? IQuoted text (14 lines)
> > > > opinion. > > > > > > > > I do agree on the nvidia selection in this case though. > > > > > > > > Mitch > > > > > > > > > > > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:zkw1a.15244$[email hidden]... > > > > > I would have to agree. > > > > > > > > > > ATI has a nice card in the 9700 Pro, but it's still ATI and ATI, > while > > > > > greatly improved over the last year, still doesn't have theirQuoted text (19 lines)
> > > game > > > > up > > > > > to par IMHO. > > > > > > > > > > The FX is due any day. > > > > > > > > > > Larry > > > > > > > > > > "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > In article <[email hidden]>, > > > > > > [email hidden] says... > > > > > > > You buy the sim yet? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We need a place to race and build up our LPI. :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Would it be possible to setup the server to be available more > > often > > > > > > > so that we have a place to setup impromptu races? Maybe twoQuoted text (12 lines)
> if > > > > > > more people have good luck with those across a wider range of > system > > > > > > configurations. Less problems means more racing. :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I was kinda hoping the FX would kick ass so I could afford a TI4600.
I usually wait until the latest and greatest comes out so I can get a
good deal on the card right below it. From what I've read, I bet the
FX is not going to sell that well, and we probably wont see prices
dropping on GF4 cards. Anybody in the market for a card should check
out Pricewatch.com, 9700 Pros are going for around $300 last check.
Brian Oster
On Tue, 11 Feb 2003 16:12:12 GMT, "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote:
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>I was hoping it would have gone through a price reduction by now. I was >really suprised to find a 5 month old card still going for the original sale >prices. > >I'm getting 60fps with my Ti4400 and not much turned off (I don't like >Shadows anyway) so I'll hold off until the Retail price drops to $299 or the >next round of cards come out. > >The GeForce FX cards that ARE going to hit the shelves still might be >interesting, but frankly not if they are going to cost $399 like it seems >they will. I'd spend that on a 9700 Pro before I spent it on a neutered >GeForce FX 5800 card. > >Larry > >"Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> From Newegg around 330 bucks. >> This is the first time I have ever spent that kind of bucks on a video >card. >> It is nice for now at least. >> >> -- >> Don Burnette >> >> >> "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:TKT1a.22187$[email hidden]... >> > I may do the same now. ATI drivers or no ATI drivers. >> > >> > Damn... Well, if the FX Ultra ain't all that, then maybe it's for the >> best. >> > >> > What's the 9700 Pro going for these days? >> > >> > Larry >> > >> > "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> > news:[email hidden]... >> > > My new 9700 Pro is kicking butt, reformatted XP Pro yesterday and >> > installed >> > > the ATI card - very pleased. >> > > I was holding out for the FX, but after reading some reviews I elected >> to >> > go >> > > with the Radeon card - my first one. >> > > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > Don Burnette >> > > >> > > >> > > "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> > > news:GVx1a.110$[email hidden]... >> > > > FX, hehe.. >> > > > >> > > > Larry how can you have an opinion on something you don't own? I >mean >> > > really >> > > > dude, you had an issue with ATI drivers in the past yet you say they >> > don't >> > > > have there driver game up... And you know this how? When you get a >> > > > 9500/9700pro using cat3's and have problems then we want to hear >your >> > > > opinion. >> > > > >> > > > I do agree on the nvidia selection in this case though. >> > > > >> > > > Mitch >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> > > > news:zkw1a.15244$[email hidden]... >> > > > > I would have to agree. >> > > > > >> > > > > ATI has a nice card in the 9700 Pro, but it's still ATI and ATI, >> while >> > > > > greatly improved over the last year, still doesn't have their >driver >> > > game >> > > > up >> > > > > to par IMHO. >> > > > > >> > > > > The FX is due any day. >> > > > > >> > > > > Larry >> > > > > >> > > > > "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> > > > > news:[email hidden]... >> > > > > > In article <[email hidden]>, >> > > > > > [email hidden] says... >> > > > > > > You buy the sim yet? >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > We need a place to race and build up our LPI. :) >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Would it be possible to setup the server to be available more >> > often >> > > > > > > so that we have a place to setup impromptu races? Maybe two >days >> > per >> > > > > > > week along with Saturday? >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > One last thing, I'm recommending the nVidia because it appears >as >> if >> > > > > > more people have good luck with those across a wider range of >> system >> > > > > > configurations. Less problems means more racing. :) >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> >Brian Oster <bgoster@swbell**nosmap**.com> wrote in
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Even a 9700 pro is not going to be HUGELY faster than your ti4400.
Unless you turn on the fsaa and use very high resolutions...THEN the ATI
part clearly separates from the Nvidia.
dave henrie
