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I would like to know the best video card to run gp2 on a p5-133

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Hercules Dynamite 128, its currently the fastest 2d Dos card,

here the url http://www.hercules.com/presale/specs/d128.htm

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   If you enjoy ICR2 or NASCAR2, look into the Rendition Verite-based
cards such as the Intergraph Reactor or Sierra Screamin' 3D (the
Creative Labs 3D Blaster PCI is also a Verite card, but it doesn't
include the Rendition version of ICR2 in its bundle).  You'll get
enhanced appearance and faster frame rates in games written for the
Verite and performance close to the Dynamite 128 for GP2.

   Check out: http://www.intergraph.com/ics/reactor

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This is absolutely not true, Intergraph will run GP2, much much
slower, because it is only optimized for 3d, and in 2d it is
very slow.

But if you are only running Nascar2, Indycar2, Quake( i think)
integraph is ok.  Yet Verite chip set video cards, are slower in 3d
then Voodoo, chip set video card.

I dont know, why papyrus decided ( maybe Sierra ordered them to) to
make a games for Verite cards, but if they made it for Voodoo, we
would probably get 35fps, constantly (on p90).  

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Bob Chalfin

This is untrue.  The Reactor has a very slow VGA core, which is what
GP2 uses to estimate framerates.  It's VESA speeds are right on par
with the fastest DOS performers, the ET-6000 based cards.

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Hogwash.  The rendition cards have excellent VESA performance, just a
tad slower than the ET6000 chipset cards.  They are very slow in VGA,
but since GP2 supports VESA modes, it should run very well on a
Rendition card.

David

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   Here's what I have heard...  The VGA mode of the Verite is *very*
slow, but GP2 is played using the VESA SVGA modes, which are fast,
comparable to the ET6000 (a tad slower).  GP2 uses this slow VGA mode
to compute its video log score (usually a paltry 25 or so on most
machines) and to compute suggested frame rates, but the card actually
performs better than that score would indicate.

   I *don't* have direct evidence of much of the above (at least the
comparison to other cards), since the Reactor is the only card that's
ever been in *my* new P133.  GP2 does run faster than it did on my
DX2/66, if that helps.  :)

   There are Rendition-accelerated versions of ICR2, NASCAR2, and
Quake.  To the best of my knowledge, none of these are available
Voodoo-accelerated.  

   If you want racing sims, 2 of the 3 big racing sims are
Verite-specific.  The third (GP2) hasn't announced which 3D
acceleration it will support (if any).  For sim-racers, the choice is
pretty simple (IMHO).

   Papyrus has been working on the Verite port of ICR2 for much of
this year, so they're been behind that technology since (or even prior
to) its inception.  The Verite-accelerated ICR2 can hit 60+ fps on my
P133 (when you take the 30fps real-time governor off).

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Hi Guys,

I have a P100 using an Intergraph card, and GP2 is significantly faster
than when I was running with my Diamond Stealth 64 2Mb DRAM (video).

I can run with medium detail at most tracks, with only trackside objects,
fences, and cars w/ track and curbs in the mirrors with an OCC between
95-150%, and when detail is set to low OCC is between 65-95%.

Perhaps it's the motherboard that's the bottle neck on other systems?

BTW, I get 110fps+ (no detail<g>) with frame-limiter removed.  ~:P

Best Regards,

Marc J. Nelson
Sim Racing News

try 17.0fps with Kerb,track,fences,objects, trackside medium, and nothing in
the mirrors as a starting point.

-=Don=-

Yes GP2 incorrectly uses the Reactor's slow VGA core to estimate
framerates.  It's SVGA speed is well above what the program thinks it
should be.

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Emory University Graduate School of Arts & Sciences
The IWCCCARS Project: Q & A Representative
Nascar Setups Page: http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~ebusch/

Does anyone know if there are any plans to port GP2's to the Rendition
chipset? This is one of my favorite simulators and it's a shame I can't
use the Reactor with it.
Ryan
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