rec.autos.simulators

Hi,

Can anyone help me out here? I have a Pentium 100, 16 Megs of Ram, and a
Number 9 motion 771 2mb Vram  Graphics Card. Problem is, I can't seem
to notice any difference in performance in Nascar Racing. At best I can
Texture the cars, show smoke and skid marks, and draw about 12 in front
on superspeedways and draw about 5 or so on short tracks (all in SVGA).
The New card didn't seem to make any difference. I got univbe 5.1a
which says it supports the Vision 968 chipset, but if there's any
performance increase, I can't really notice it. Has anyone with this
same card I have managed to get this to work?

-Joe

If you get an answer let me know.  I also am not happy with my 771 in DOS.
 I'm annoyed at Dell for pushing this card so hard.  Would welcome
suggestions for a replacement.

                                         bob

I also was running the number 9 motion 771(with 2mb vram).
i purchased it for $319.00. it sucked. so i took it back and
got the motion 531(with 1mb dram) and it works a little better.
i should say that the 771 didn't really suck, just that for that much
it sould've been faster.

                Blaine

writes

If you want a good DOS card, the best one by far is the Matrox Millenium
(2Mb WRAM is enough) although it's pretty expensive. I would recommend
the latest Diamond Stealth 64 or Hercules Stingray 64, both of which use
the Ark2000 chipset. With 2Mb DRAM (*NOT* VRAM) these will give DOS
performance just slightly slower than the Matrox, but substantially
cheaper.

Then you can save the money for a "3D" card later on...!

Cheers!
John

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David

I have a Number 9 531 (long story, it wasn't my idea to get it).  Anyway,
using the latest version of 3dbench (yes I know the arguments for and
against it) found at http://www.cam/org/~agena/bench.ht, I see that this
card does not come up with good scores.

Get the new 3dbench and compare your scores to the others listed on
this web page and see for yourself.  Me, I'm  waiting for a graphics
co-processor standard to emerge and then I'll buy a new card.

--

Blast from the past:   Happy Motoring,

                                 LJA

On Wed, 5 Jun 1996 23:49:31 +0100, John Wallace

 >On Wed, 5 Jun 1996 23:49:31 +0100, John Wallace
 >

 >>writes
 >>>I also was running the number 9 motion 771(with 2mb vram).
 >>>i purchased it for $319.00. it sucked. so i took it back and
 >>>got the motion 531(with 1mb dram) and it works a little better.
 >>>i should say that the 771 didn't really suck, just that for that much
 >>>it sould've been faster.
 >>
 >>If you want a good DOS card, the best one by far is the Matrox Millenium
 >>(2Mb WRAM is enough) although it's pretty expensive. I would recommend
 >>the latest Diamond Stealth 64 or Hercules Stingray 64, both of which use
 >>the Ark2000 chipset. With 2Mb DRAM (*NOT* VRAM) these will give DOS
 >>performance just slightly slower than the Matrox, but substantially
 >>cheaper.
 >
 >I'd hardly say that the Matrox card is too expensive, I got it for
 >$245 US from Midwest Micro. Thats not cheap, but compared to the #9
 >products, you save at least $50. The maion feature is it's blazing DOS
 >preformance. In the reviews I read, every card was compared to the
 >Millenium ( PC, Windows Source, etc. ). It has several other pluses,
 >like comparable windows accel, and Matrox's 3d built in. No, thats not
 >a standard, and its no reason to buy this one, but it DOES come with
 >NASCAR written for it :-)
 >

So are you saying that the Mellenium is 1) a 3D card, 2) it's fast in DOS and 3)
it comes with a special 3D version of NASCAR?

--- Frank ---

1.Yes, it does have some built-in 3d acceleration. I really don't know
if its any good or has the features other 3d cards have.
2.from all the reviews Ive seen its got the best dos numbers, thats
why I bought it
3.Yes a 3d version of nascar is included, but I can't really tell the
difference, since the regular version runs pretty well on a 166 too
:-)

I just bought a Matrox, and it certainly does come with a special version
of NASCAR.  As for being very fast in DOS, that's what I've read time
and time again.  The 3d accel isn't quite as good as some of the newer
cards coming out (the matrox does NOT do mapping of texture maps onto
polygons, but it DOES store the texture maps in the onboard memory).

Hope this helps.

Regards,
  Keith Smith