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by **Stephen Colbourn** » Tue, 25 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Well we wont be getting multiplayer from the Le Mans game so I guess its
about time to convert or create the track for GPL.
1) Has this been done yet ?
2) Is anyone attempting to do this ?
3) Could we have a list of which games have offered a well done track for Le
Mans.

P.S. I would really like both the full 24hr track and the short track as
used at the 1967 Grand Prix.

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by **Ian Hil** » Tue, 25 Jan 2000 04:00:00

You *don't* want the '67 GP circuit, it's pants. Two medium-length wonky
straights and 6 hairpins. Very little overtaking. It's available for GP2.
There was a good reason Papy replaced it with Rouen in GPL...

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by **Marc Collin** » Tue, 25 Jan 2000 04:00:00

I highly doubt he is talking about the '67 F1 layout. Rather the Le Mans
everyone else in the world thinks of when it comes to motor racing and the
track that is in the Le mans game that just got released that there are many
posts about here.

The one-time one-year parking lot Le Mans has been long forgotten except as
a GPL discussion piece.

Marc.

> > Well we wont be getting multiplayer from the Le Mans game so I guess
its
> > about time to convert or create the track for GPL.
> > 1) Has this been done yet ?
> > 2) Is anyone attempting to do this ?
> > 3) Could we have a list of which games have offered a well done track
for
> Le
> > Mans.

> > P.S. I would really like both the full 24hr track and the short track as
> > used at the 1967 Grand Prix.

> You *don't* want the '67 GP circuit, it's pants. Two medium-length wonky
> straights and 6 hairpins. Very little overtaking. It's available for GP2.
> There was a good reason Papy replaced it with Rouen in GPL...

> regards
> --

> http://ianhill.tripod.com
> Please visit www.thehungersite.com today!

by **Ian Hil** » Tue, 25 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Please read the following extract from the post to which I was replying:

cheers!
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by **Colin McSkimmin** » Tue, 25 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Not sure about a Le Mans track but the next track I know of for GPL is
Snetterton (UK circuit - used in the British Touring Car series & many
others.) You can see it at http://www.gpl.netti.nu/current.html

by **Jonathon Gree** » Tue, 25 Jan 2000 04:00:00

>Not sure about a Le Mans track but the next track I know of for GPL is
>Snetterton (UK circuit - used in the British Touring Car series & many
>others.) You can see it at http://www.gpl.netti.nu/current.html

Eugh! Yuk!!

OK, so Snetterton has some historic significance for GPL (scene of the Lotus
47s first ever run and all that...) , but personally I loathe the place, and
airfield circuits in general in fact...

What I'd really like (in case anybody's interested), is Cadwell Park[1],
Oulton Park, and Goodwood[2].

[1] I've got no idea whether GP cars have ever run at Cadwell, but it's
easily
my favourite circuit to race on, and the thought of launching a GPL car
over the Mountain into Hall Bends and peeling off over the deg of the
world
at The Gooseneck has me drooling all over my keyboard...

[2] We could run an on-line Goodwood Revival meeting :-)

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JG

by **Matthew Birger Knutse** » Tue, 25 Jan 2000 04:00:00

>>Not sure about a Le Mans track but the next track I know of for GPL is
>>Snetterton (UK circuit - used in the British Touring Car series & many
>>others.) You can see it at http://www.racesimcentral.net/

>Eugh! Yuk!!

>OK, so Snetterton has some historic significance for GPL (scene of the
Lotus
>47s first ever run and all that...) , but personally I loathe the place,
and
>airfield circuits in general in fact...

>What I'd really like (in case anybody's interested), is Cadwell Park[1],
>Oulton Park, and Goodwood[2].

Goodwood is an airfield circuit ! <g>

On a serious note; they're all on our list. The reason for Snetterton is
that the layout i easy, it's still there (and very close to the home of the
GPLEA track editing Big Chief), and it *will* make for the best online
racing yet seen IMO. And, I'll tell you, *** through the bombhole isn't
dull :-)

Cheers,

Matt/GPLEA

by **Jonathon Gree** » Wed, 26 Jan 2000 04:00:00

>> OK, so Snetterton has some historic significance for GPL (scene of the
>> Lotus 47s first ever run and all that...) , but personally I loathe the
place,
>> and airfield circuits in general in fact...

>>What I'd really like (in case anybody's interested), is Cadwell Park[1],
>>Oulton Park, and Goodwood[2].

>Goodwood is an airfield circuit ! <g>

Errr. Yeah! Just testing. I've never been there, I just liked the look of it
after watching the Goodwood revival stuff on the telly :-)

Ooooh!!! I suppose Lydden and Brands "Indy" are too much to
hope for :-)

Thank you, thank you, thank you. I'll be looking forward to further
news! Need a Beta tester for Cadwell (or any other help that
doesn't require significant artistic talent for that matter)?

reason for Snetterton is

Been There, Done That, Didn't (much) Like It...

To be fair, I think my problem with Snetterton, Thruxton, Silverstone and
the like is that I haven't experienced them at their best, as both my car
and my race bike (I've done a few track days in the car and race a
motorcycle) are somewhat underpowered for fast, open circuits. Revett
straight seems _awfully_ long in a Mercedes C180, or on a 47 BHP MuZ
Skorpion...

The other thing is that there are a couple of places at Snetterton
(Bombhole and Corams?) which are _very_ quick and seem to
have _very_ little runoff before the tyre wall, and where, depending
on the number of wheels, I found myself speculating luridly on
awkward explanations to my leasing company, or the frailty of the
human body... :-)

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JG

by **Matthew Birger Knutse** » Wed, 26 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Well, get your ***over there this summer, and I'll get you a pint :-)

Well, I said they were on our list..heh heh, it will be a while before they
are seen. Let's see how successful we are with Snetterton first. Making the
next one should be a helluva lot easier!

Ah! And, of course, you were running the new layout. yup, without some
serious HP, they are all dull unless you're trading paint with a big field
of maniacs. Try Anderstorp (Sweden) In a Super Saloon Mini (main straight is
a very wide air strip)......only fun was to sit there and make hand signals
to the others, sing for the pit crew via the radio....or slipstream and
dodge when there were several cars:)

Well, expect to spend a few Lotus 49s/Ferraris/whatever soon, even less
runoff then:-)

Best,
Matt/GPLEA

by **Jonathon Gree** » Wed, 26 Jan 2000 04:00:00

>Well, get your ***over there this summer, and I'll get you a pint :-)

Deal!

The other way round can be fun. Like, for instance Croix-en-Ternois on a
Triumph Super III (my road bike, big, heavy, powerful). 115 BHP, the turning
circle of a London bus, and a circuit which seemed to consist entirely of
hairpins was actually a lot more fun than you'd expect :-)

I don't mind, becasue they're free, and the only thing that gets hurt is my
pride :-)

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JG

by **Barton Brow** » Wed, 26 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Goodwood is *not* an airfield circuit; a horse racing venue was
established in 1802 by the third Duke of Richmond and Gordon (Lord
March), colloquially known by its geographic setting, Sussex Downs, in
which capacity it continues today. The aircraft runways of Westhampnett
airfield were built on the Duke of Richmond and Gordon's estate early in
WWII and used as a Spitfire base during the war. The airfield has been
expanded, and continues to operate to this day. The runways are NOT part
of the Goodwood motor racing circuit: the circuit was developed from the
2.4 mile perimeter road around the airfield, which is not (compared to,
say, Silverstone or Sebring) flat and featureless by any means. Freddie
March, then-Duke, recently demobbed from the RAF, President of the
Junior Car Club associated with the defunct Brooklands racecourse AND
the British Auto Racing Club, avid Brooklands racer and engineer, was
approached by fellow enthusiast and ex-RAF Squadron Leader Tony Gaze
about the feasibility of using the perimeter track as a motor-racing
circuit. Britain's two main pre-war venues, Brooklands and Donington
Park, were either permanently (Brooklands had been taken over by the
aviation industry) or temporarily (Donington Park was still in the hands
of the British Army) unavailable. Freddie March repaired his perimeter
road, and the first Goodwood Motor Racing Meeting was held in September
of 1948. Auspiciously, a little-known ***age prodigy won the
International 500cc race at that first meeting -- his name was Stirling
Moss.

The circuit was closed in 1966, largely because Lord March was unhappy
with cars of over 3-liter capacity in general, and on his private estate
course in particular. The circuit is, of course, wholly-owned by the
Estate of the Duke of Richmond and Gordon, and the current Lord March
revived racing at the Goodwood Circuit in 1998, though he had been using
the access roads at Goodwood House for the Goodwood Festival of Speed
since the early '90s.

Great information on Goodwood is available at the following sites:

http://www.racesimcentral.net/

BB

by **Matthew Birger Knutse** » Wed, 26 Jan 2000 04:00:00

*snip*
The runways are NOT part
<more good stuff on Goodwood snip>

I know, hang on, it's my fav track, and I've been there 4 times the last 2
years over from Norway.
Snetterton did not use the runways either, runs on the perimeter road :-)

Matt/GPLEA

by **Mark Seer** » Wed, 26 Jan 2000 04:00:00

I'll have a pint as well. <G>
CYA there

MS

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