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GP3: Did it survive? Falcon4 didn't...

Greg Cisk

GP3: Did it survive? Falcon4 didn't...

by Greg Cisk » Thu, 09 Dec 1999 04:00:00

As many of you may know, Falcon 4 is made by the same company
which makes GrandPrix3 (Microprose). The entire F4 team along with
the main MPS QA and I think much of the tech support staff were let go.
Falcon4 and all of it's addons are canceled and no more patches are
going to be released.

Does anyone know if GP3 survived?

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Dave Henri

GP3: Did it survive? Falcon4 didn't...

by Dave Henri » Fri, 10 Dec 1999 04:00:00

  from the sound of the announcement, gp3 could be in serious jepardy.
Can I get a call from ID???
dave henrie

> As many of you may know, Falcon 4 is made by the same company
> which makes GrandPrix3 (Microprose). The entire F4 team along with
> the main MPS QA and I think much of the tech support staff were let go.
> Falcon4 and all of it's addons are canceled and no more patches are
> going to be released.

> Does anyone know if GP3 survived?

> --

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Ronnie & Princess Bigwhi

GP3: Did it survive? Falcon4 didn't...

by Ronnie & Princess Bigwhi » Fri, 10 Dec 1999 04:00:00

 WOW... I cant believe it. Thats just horrible.

>As many of you may know, Falcon 4 is made by the same company
>which makes GrandPrix3 (Microprose). The entire F4 team along with
>the main MPS QA and I think much of the tech support staff were let go.
>Falcon4 and all of it's addons are canceled and no more patches are
>going to be released.

>Does anyone know if GP3 survived?

>--

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Andrew Carrol

GP3: Did it survive? Falcon4 didn't...

by Andrew Carrol » Fri, 10 Dec 1999 04:00:00

At the begining of the month didn't Hasbro announce they would be
porting GP3 to consoles as well.  Surely they haven't changed their
minds on that within 2 weeks ???  (desperate praying going on here !!!).

Please someone reassure us either way !

Regards

Andrew


>  WOW... I cant believe it. Thats just horrible.

> >As many of you may know, Falcon 4 is made by the same company
> >which makes GrandPrix3 (Microprose). The entire F4 team along with
> >the main MPS QA and I think much of the tech support staff were let go.
> >Falcon4 and all of it's addons are canceled and no more patches are
> >going to be released.

> >Does anyone know if GP3 survived?

> >--

> >Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes.

> >cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com

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Andrew Carroll
Kodak Limited
Hemel Hempstead, UK
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Any views expressed above are entirely my own, and should not be taken
to be the views of Kodak Limited or Eastman Kodak Company.
Greg Cisk

GP3: Did it survive? Falcon4 didn't...

by Greg Cisk » Fri, 10 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Frankly I don't know. MPS/Hasbro has stated that they are out of the
simulation market. I am not sure if it is flightsims or sims in general
which would effect GP3.

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> At the begining of the month didn't Hasbro announce they would be
> porting GP3 to consoles as well.  Surely they haven't changed their
> minds on that within 2 weeks ???  (desperate praying going on here !!!).

> Please someone reassure us either way !

> Regards

> Andrew


> >  WOW... I cant believe it. Thats just horrible.

> > >As many of you may know, Falcon 4 is made by the same company
> > >which makes GrandPrix3 (Microprose). The entire F4 team along with
> > >the main MPS QA and I think much of the tech support staff were let go.
> > >Falcon4 and all of it's addons are canceled and no more patches are
> > >going to be released.

> > >Does anyone know if GP3 survived?

> > >--

> > >Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes.

> > >cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com

> --
> Andrew Carroll
> Kodak Limited
> Hemel Hempstead, UK
> ---------------------
> Any views expressed above are entirely my own, and should not be taken
> to be the views of Kodak Limited or Eastman Kodak Company.

Greg Cisk

GP3: Did it survive? Falcon4 didn't...

by Greg Cisk » Fri, 10 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Well if you want to read about it, check out the flightsim newsgroup.
It is a total shit-storm.

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> WOW... I cant believe it. Thats just horrible.

> >As many of you may know, Falcon 4 is made by the same company
> >which makes GrandPrix3 (Microprose). The entire F4 team along with
> >the main MPS QA and I think much of the tech support staff were let go.
> >Falcon4 and all of it's addons are canceled and no more patches are
> >going to be released.

> >Does anyone know if GP3 survived?

> >--

> >Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes.

> >cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com

Sjoerd de Roes

GP3: Did it survive? Falcon4 didn't...

by Sjoerd de Roes » Fri, 10 Dec 1999 04:00:00

It will be ported to consoles I believe. Consoles never get full sims. Bad
news...

Sjoerd


>As many of you may know, Falcon 4 is made by the same company
>which makes GrandPrix3 (Microprose). The entire F4 team along with
>the main MPS QA and I think much of the tech support staff were let go.
>Falcon4 and all of it's addons are canceled and no more patches are
>going to be released.

>Does anyone know if GP3 survived?

>--

>Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes.

>cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com

David Can

GP3: Did it survive? Falcon4 didn't...

by David Can » Fri, 10 Dec 1999 04:00:00

If Microprose pulls the plug, Geoff Crammond will just take GP3 elsewhere.
I'm sure any publisher will take it.

D Cane


Matthew Woodin

GP3: Did it survive? Falcon4 didn't...

by Matthew Woodin » Fri, 10 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Seeing as they have probably paid for a license for the game
it would surely be daft to drop it now. Didn't they get a
license for several years?
--Matt


>Frankly I don't know. MPS/Hasbro has stated that they are out of the
>simulation market. I am not sure if it is flightsims or sims in general
>which would effect GP3.

>--

>Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes.

>cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com



>> At the begining of the month didn't Hasbro announce they would be
>> porting GP3 to consoles as well.  Surely they haven't changed their
>> minds on that within 2 weeks ???  (desperate praying going on here !!!).

>> Please someone reassure us either way !

>> Regards

>> Andrew


>> >  WOW... I cant believe it. Thats just horrible.

>> > >As many of you may know, Falcon 4 is made by the same company
>> > >which makes GrandPrix3 (Microprose). The entire F4 team along with
>> > >the main MPS QA and I think much of the tech support staff were let
go.
>> > >Falcon4 and all of it's addons are canceled and no more patches are
>> > >going to be released.

>> > >Does anyone know if GP3 survived?

>> > >--

>> > >Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming
hordes.

>> > >cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com

>> --
>> Andrew Carroll
>> Kodak Limited
>> Hemel Hempstead, UK
>> ---------------------
>> Any views expressed above are entirely my own, and should not be taken
>> to be the views of Kodak Limited or Eastman Kodak Company.

Simon Mallet

GP3: Did it survive? Falcon4 didn't...

by Simon Mallet » Fri, 10 Dec 1999 04:00:00

The facts are a little wrong here.....Micrprose only publish GP3..geoff
crammond makes it..so it won;t be a problem..gp3 is still being programmed.

Mike Laske

GP3: Did it survive? Falcon4 didn't...

by Mike Laske » Fri, 10 Dec 1999 04:00:00


This is a total disaster for the customer and I guess a bitter taste of
reality that high-spec sims are too expensive, too risky, and don't offer
the immediate financial returns that a wider-appealing investment can.

I've been reading the flight-sim newsgroup and it really is a royal
suck-fest.  I can't believe that Hasbro would take the Falcon 4 investment,
and throw it away, just at the point where the code is pretty much working
and can be extended forward to the future titles.

What a load of crap.  Bean-counters should be annihilated.

Mike.

Ronnie & Princess Bigwhi

GP3: Did it survive? Falcon4 didn't...

by Ronnie & Princess Bigwhi » Fri, 10 Dec 1999 04:00:00

 Amen I couldnt agree more!!!!! Bean counters have no reason to exist and
they certainly didnt make the world a better place, the dreamers did.

>What a load of crap.  Bean-counters should be annihilated.

>Mike.

Michael Veldma

GP3: Did it survive? Falcon4 didn't...

by Michael Veldma » Sat, 11 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Another comment from the flight sim newsgroup has mentioned
that Gunship is being "toned down" from a serious sim.
Hopefully that won't be the case for GP3 but you never know.
Especially when you hear about ports to consoles.

Michael


> Frankly I don't know. MPS/Hasbro has stated that they are out of the
> simulation market. I am not sure if it is flightsims or sims in general
> which would effect GP3.

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> > At the begining of the month didn't Hasbro announce they would be
> > porting GP3 to consoles as well.  Surely they haven't changed their
> > minds on that within 2 weeks ???  (desperate praying going on here !!!).

> > Please someone reassure us either way !

> > Regards

> > Andrew


> > >  WOW... I cant believe it. Thats just horrible.

> > > >As many of you may know, Falcon 4 is made by the same company
> > > >which makes GrandPrix3 (Microprose). The entire F4 team along with
> > > >the main MPS QA and I think much of the tech support staff were let
go.
> > > >Falcon4 and all of it's addons are canceled and no more patches are
> > > >going to be released.

> > > >Does anyone know if GP3 survived?

> > > >--

> > > >Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming
hordes.

> > > >cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com

> > --
> > Andrew Carroll
> > Kodak Limited
> > Hemel Hempstead, UK
> > ---------------------
> > Any views expressed above are entirely my own, and should not be taken
> > to be the views of Kodak Limited or Eastman Kodak Company.

Steve Ferguso

GP3: Did it survive? Falcon4 didn't...

by Steve Ferguso » Sat, 11 Dec 1999 04:00:00

: I've been reading the flight-sim newsgroup and it really is a royal
: suck-fest.  I can't believe that Hasbro would take the Falcon 4 investment,
: and throw it away, just at the point where the code is pretty much working
: and can be extended forward to the future titles.

It happens elsewhere.  I know a very clever aero engineer who did a lot of
coding at DID, starting with a mid-development overhaul of EF2000.  They
invested a lot into their aero model, but now seem to be dumbing down
their sims as well, being happy to pump out "Wargasm" type
products.  Naturally, my friend has moved on.

Stephen

clon

GP3: Did it survive? Falcon4 didn't...

by clon » Sat, 11 Dec 1999 04:00:00

On Wed, 8 Dec 1999 23:24:51 -0600, "Greg Cisko" <no.spam.email.for.me>

Spectrum Holobyte were the real people who made F4, I think they owned

Microprose, but when Hasbro bought them out, they sort of seperated. I
dont think it will have any effect on GP3.

clone

"I refuse to be smart!"



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