I am not quite coordinated yet.
Dave
I am not quite coordinated yet.
Dave
>I am not quite coordinated yet.
>Dave
I only use the clutch in the start, and I find it easier to get a good start
using the clutch.
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I have the lower left button on my Logitech FF setup as the
clutch.
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> The clutch is also very handy in a spin - the second you realize that it's
> impossible to save, hit the clutch and hold it. It lets the rear wheels
> freewheel and lets the car get in the right direction again. Just steer it
> now and it should do maybe 1 360 and then go straight.
On the other hand, with dual axis I find that I can prevent really ***
spins by just slamming on the brakes - this seems to "freeze" the car in
its current direction, and I can then release the brakes and carry on as
it's stopped it from rotating.
If I remember correctly, this didn't work when I had a combined brake
and throttle, presumably because slamming on the brakes also released
the throttle, which is just what you don't want when oversteering!
You do lose some time this way though, so the first recourse should be a
bit of opposite lock and a blast of throttle, if you have the skill!
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Joe
> I am not quite coordinated yet.
> Dave
I tried GPL with a joystick with a throttle for Aircraft sims and it worked
great, on with the power, off with the clutch like a real car since the gas
and clutch wre both progreesivly taken on and taken off but with the buttons
on my wheel its just jumpy and doesn't work too well.....
how do you work it?
No, in race cars the only time the clutch is being used is from a stand
still. Ok, you can use it if you are really good to help with spins.
-Jeremy
>> The clutch is also very handy in a spin - the second you realize that
it's
>> impossible to save, hit the clutch and hold it. It lets the rear wheels
>> freewheel and lets the car get in the right direction again. Just steer
it
>> now and it should do maybe 1 360 and then go straight.
>I have an analogue clutch pedal so I have nowhere near enough time to
>move my left foot over from the brake to save the spin!
>On the other hand, with dual axis I find that I can prevent really ***
>spins by just slamming on the brakes - this seems to "freeze" the car in
>its current direction, and I can then release the brakes and carry on as
>it's stopped it from rotating.
>If I remember correctly, this didn't work when I had a combined brake
>and throttle, presumably because slamming on the brakes also released
>the throttle, which is just what you don't want when oversteering!
>You do lose some time this way though, so the first recourse should be a
>bit of opposite lock and a blast of throttle, if you have the skill!
umm, actually thats incorrect. In 1967, the clutch was used for everything,
not just starts.
In Indy Cars today they have an electronic clutch that they use to upshift,
but for starts and downshifts, they must use the clutch. I think its the
same for Nascar, but i'm not sure. Also they can switch between an
engage/disengage mode, and a limited slip mode for the clutch. for instance
on road courses drivers need to be able to slip the clutch so as not spin
the rear tires while exiting corners. This is why on road courses while
exiting pits the cars don't spin the tires as much, as when they race on
ovals. On oval tracks the clutch can only be engaged and disengaged. Once
the clutch is pressed, it is as if it pressed in all the way, once the
clutch is released it is fully released. There is no in-between.
-Jeremy
>>No, in race cars the only time the clutch is being used is from a stand
>>still. Ok, you can use it if you are really good to help with spins.
>umm, actually thats incorrect. In 1967, the clutch was used for
everything,
>not just starts.
Sounds like you sure know allot about clutches! Please read
Page 23 and get back to us OK?
:-)
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SRC Wheel
http://www.mindspring.com/~srcwheel/
Many wheel units now come with 4+axis that makes a clutch available. The
TSW has an option to add a pedal, the ECCI also. On my part..
I have CH Pedals with an EXL500 wheel by CH, and the last one comes with a
pair of pretty crappy pedals (but the wheel is incredible). So since I have
4pedals now, I lined them, and use my spare EXL500pedal for a clutch, since
I have 4axis. I also know that if you have something like the TM Sprint or
the good'old GP1, you can put pedals with it and use the shifters behind as
a clutch, since it's analog.
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CART cars do not use the clutch when downshifting too.
God bless,
Loren