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MS Sidewinder FF w/o software?

Uwe hoover Schuerkam

MS Sidewinder FF w/o software?

by Uwe hoover Schuerkam » Sat, 11 Jan 2003 22:24:07

hi folks,

as the sidewinder wheel ff software refuses to install on
w2k, would it be possible to just set the ff variables in gpl's
ini files and have ff all the same, without having to use the
ff sidewinder software?

I cannot test this myself, so I'm just tossing about ideas as
it's for a newly-won over friends installation.

Thanks for any suggestions,

uwe

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Jone Tytlandsvi

MS Sidewinder FF w/o software?

by Jone Tytlandsvi » Tue, 14 Jan 2003 19:16:15



If it's the USB wheel the answer is yes. When I had W2k, I didn't have the
profiler software installed, and it worked fine. When I installed XP I could
not get separate axis. I found out that the 4.0 profiler that came with the
wheel, was compatible with both W2k and XP, even though the installer gives
a warning message.
If it's a gameport wheel, I think it's a no go on W2k and XP.

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Peter Ogde

MS Sidewinder FF w/o software?

by Peter Ogde » Tue, 14 Jan 2003 20:31:56

Not necessarily, I use a MS Sidewinder FF on XP Pro very successfully. Key
to this working is definitely do NOT install the profile software.

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Uwe hoover Schuerkam

MS Sidewinder FF w/o software?

by Uwe hoover Schuerkam » Thu, 16 Jan 2003 19:41:53


>> If it's a gameport wheel, I think it's a no go on W2k and XP.

> Not necessarily, I use a MS Sidewinder FF on XP Pro very successfully. Key
> to this working is definitely do NOT install the profile software.

I would guess the mechanisms of getting ff to work on the
*gameport* version would be quite similar under Win2k... care
to outline for us what you did in order to get it working with
FF?

TIA,

Uwe

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Peter Ogde

MS Sidewinder FF w/o software?

by Peter Ogde » Fri, 17 Jan 2003 20:51:04

Hi again, Uwe

I can't guarantee it will work with W2K, but all I needed to do once I got
the wheel recognised in control panel was to add/enable the following in
core.ini:

[ Joy ]
allow_force_feedback = 1                 ; Use FF if device has it
force_feedback_latency = 0.085000  ; force feedback latency (secs) (MSFF)
force_feedback_damping = 40.000000  ; force feedback damping coefficient
max_steering_torque = 225.000000  ; steering torque in N*in giving max
device force

P.S. I had W2K before WinXP Pro and wasn't able to get it working with it,
but this was over 2 years ago (maybe before DX8). But then, I was unable to
get the wheel working at all - if you have it works without FF, then I
suspect you should be able to get FF working too.

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> >> If it's a gameport wheel, I think it's a no go on W2k and XP.

> > Not necessarily, I use a MS Sidewinder FF on XP Pro very successfully.
Key
> > to this working is definitely do NOT install the profile software.

> I would guess the mechanisms of getting ff to work on the
> *gameport* version would be quite similar under Win2k... care
> to outline for us what you did in order to get it working with
> FF?

> TIA,

> Uwe

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Pasi Rahikaine

MS Sidewinder FF w/o software?

by Pasi Rahikaine » Thu, 23 Jan 2003 14:35:58


How do you get pedals separated to different axis without the software ?
Otherwise
it works just fine without the software on XP Pro
Peter Ogde

MS Sidewinder FF w/o software?

by Peter Ogde » Thu, 23 Jan 2003 20:19:39

Pasi,

In XP, with the Game Controllers Applet set to Microsoft Sidewinder
(Autodetect), my ONLY set up is for separate axis for brake and accelerator.
Been racing GPL for 12 months like that.

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