rec.autos.simulators

by **Larr** » Thu, 01 Apr 1999 04:00:00

I agree 100%. Mine has been flawless so far, and I have over 30 games
alone (about 6 gigs worth) on my system.

I run it under both W95 and W98.

Now, the Diamond Stealth II G460 I had before this, THAT is another
story...

-Larry

> : It's a Viper need we say more!!!!!

> BS. The Viper isn't any more problem-prone than any other TNT card.

> :

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by **Larr** » Thu, 01 Apr 1999 04:00:00

Yes, but you simply said 3D. You didn't get specific :)

And, the latest version, Nascar Racing 1999, has a Win executable that
does not support DirectX.

We agree that the market, right or wrong, is moving towards DirectX
based 3D, though :)

-Larry

> > Not Nascar Racing :)

> If my memory serves me correctly, Nascar racing is a 4 year old DOS game.

by **Peter Tomso** » Thu, 01 Apr 1999 04:00:00

opengl32.dll is dated 1999 not the one that came with Win 95. I ran the
dx61 diagnostics program and it crashed so I figure there's something
wrong softare wise somewhere (although the machine was only built three
weeks ago). I'll going to trash and reinstall everything in the hope it
might fix it. More tomorrow if I manage to get back online

Pete

> I almost have to think it's those nvidia drivers...

> I use the one's that came with my Diamond V550. I've never had any
> reason to use any other. Actually, I use the latest one's from Diamonds
> web site, but they are the Diamond drivers...

> -Larry

> > Yes. It's a fresh install of Win 95 OSR-2 then added nvidia .48 ref
> > drivers, Directx6.1 and the open gl beta 2 patch in the GPL directory.
> > It traps on startup in GLU32.DLL. Viper 550, Celeron 333A on Abit BH6,
> > SB 64PCI. I'm about to try Win 98 as a last resort - although I'll try
> > the Hercules drivers first. Can you list exactly what you are running ?

> > This is really annoying me - I'm regretting selling my Voodoo 1.

> > Pete

> > > Works fine for me.

> > > Did you install the OpenGL drivers in the GPL directory?

> > > -Larry

> > > > Care to tell me how to make GPL work on my Viper 550 then ? NOT
> > > > compatible.

by **Jon** » Thu, 01 Apr 1999 04:00:00

Forget about Voodoo3 and TNT 2.

Voodoo3, not so many 3d render mode capabilities
TNT 2 might have a control lag just as TNT 1.

Go for some savage stuff or something...

JonM

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by Jv » Thu, 01 Apr 1999 04:00:00

TNT has no control lag. Learn to configure your system,
Damnit!

by **John Reynold** » Thu, 01 Apr 1999 04:00:00

I wouldn't recommend an unreleased S3 product to my worst enemy. That
company has a long way to go insofar as redeeming themselves in my eyes.

John

>Forget about Voodoo3 and TNT 2.

>Voodoo3, not so many 3d render mode capabilities
>TNT 2 might have a control lag just as TNT 1.

>Go for some savage stuff or something...

>JonM

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>money!"

by **John Reynold** » Thu, 01 Apr 1999 04:00:00

He might've been refering to all of those OpenGL texture load hitches that
are so well known. Who knows. . . . You know, even though the V2 is
PCI-based and doesn't support AGP and sidebanding it still loads textures 4
times faster than a TnT in OpenGL games.

John

>>TNT 2 might have a control lag just as TNT 1.

>TNT has no control lag. Learn to configure your system,
>Damnit!

by Jv » Thu, 01 Apr 1999 04:00:00

Typical Reynolds exaggeration: "all those load hitches that are so well
known". I know of only one 3D engine which is having trouble, Dynamix's
Tribes/Starsiege. Hmmm, well there's Unreal too but the hitches are
pretty much gone with the proper settings.

Comparing OpenGL and Glide isn't exactly valid.

by **Andreas Ries** » Fri, 02 Apr 1999 04:00:00

> TNT 2 might have a control lag just as TNT 1.

TNT has no general control lag. This is a lie. I've no control lag,
my friends with TNT boards have no control lag. The lag you have
described in earlier postings is a problem of your configuration not
of the TNT.
Please keep distance from that statement.

--
.
: With best Regards
| .
| / Andreas Riess

by **ZOD** » Fri, 02 Apr 1999 04:00:00

Funny....my V2 is the card that has pauses, not my TNT.

by **Larr** » Sat, 03 Apr 1999 04:00:00

Gotta love Dem' Winders :)

-Larry

> opengl32.dll is dated 1999 not the one that came with Win 95. I ran the
> dx61 diagnostics program and it crashed so I figure there's something
> wrong softare wise somewhere (although the machine was only built three
> weeks ago). I'll going to trash and reinstall everything in the hope it
> might fix it. More tomorrow if I manage to get back online

> Pete

by **Larr** » Sat, 03 Apr 1999 04:00:00

Control Lag?

Me no got no Control Lag...

:)

-Larry

> Voodoo3, not so many 3d render mode capabilities
> TNT 2 might have a control lag just as TNT 1.

by **Skid** » Sat, 03 Apr 1999 04:00:00

I made as many S3 "decelerator" jokes as anybody over the past couple of
years, but then I bought a $59 A-Trend Savage SGRAM card on impulse a few
months back. It has retired my 12-meg V2 except for Glide and made a
believer out of me with stable drivers, better image quality, more features
and greater customizing options. I wouldn't hesitate to recommend a Savage 4
to a friend, any more than you would hesitate to recommend a V3 to one of
yours.
Personally, I think my friend would get the better deal ;>)

> I wouldn't recommend an unreleased S3 product to my worst enemy. That
> company has a long way to go insofar as redeeming themselves in my eyes.

> John

> >Forget about Voodoo3 and TNT 2.

> >Voodoo3, not so many 3d render mode capabilities
> >TNT 2 might have a control lag just as TNT 1.

> >Go for some savage stuff or something...

> >JonM

> >________________________________________________
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> >money!"

by **Jon** » Sun, 04 Apr 1999 04:00:00

Pauses? no a constant control lag. All my mouse/keyboard
inputs are treated by the game engine 1/2 second after they
happen! it's like they are "queued" in the I/O buffer and then
released to the gameplay. The lag is 1/2 second playing
voodoo2 games and software mode but when using the TNT
card the lag is longer the more resolution I set up and/or the
more 3d effects I turn on (dithering and especally antialiasing)!

I have ripped everything from my computer and tested every
OS/setup you could imagine (maybe not THAT many:) but no
go. Not even a different result, the exact same.

Now I'll try my friends vga card (a little older think it is an ati) and
se if there is any changes. If not I'll sell the motherboard. Damn.

JonM

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by **Jon** » Sun, 04 Apr 1999 04:00:00

Ok, sorry. I got the idea that all TNT was like that from a post I
read...

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