lack of wheels for pc racing. Only wheel available was the black momo. Used
to at least have your choice of a logi, ms, thrustmaster. Must be we are not
that important.
DC
DC
> > Hi all..was in a few stores (upstate NY area) yesterday. I am amazed at
> the
> > lack of wheels for pc racing. Only wheel available was the black momo.
> Used
> > to at least have your choice of a logi, ms, thrustmaster. Must be we are
> not
> > that important.
> > DC
Oh well...
DC
If you already have a TSW, why not pick up that black MOMO and use it with the
TSW peds if you want FF? Most sims now support multiple simultaneous
controllers. I've been using my MOMO (red) along with my TSW's peds for years
now in sims like GPL, Nascar Racing ( and Heat) , F1C, LFS, NetKar, TOCA Race
Driver 2 etc.
I use the red MOMO, but only because my early model black MOMO's paddle shifter
broke after a few weeks (a problem that reportedly has been fixed in later
models). I thought that the the wheel and FF of the black MOMO was quite good.
All you would need to do is keep your TSW hooked up to the PC, as is, and hook
up the MOMO via USB. The only drawback is the physical space taken up by having
2 complete wheel/pedal systems hooked up to the PC at the same time.
Bert
> > > Hi all..was in a few stores (upstate NY area) yesterday. I am amazed at
> > the
> > > lack of wheels for pc racing. Only wheel available was the black momo.
> > Used
> > > to at least have your choice of a logi, ms, thrustmaster. Must be we are
> > not
> > > that important.
> > > DC
> agreed..it would be nice to get a nice wheel that falls in between the two
> levels. I have a tsw but would like a decent ff wheel too. One that is of
> good quality with out having to take out a loan to purchase it.
> Oh well...
> DC
> If you already have a TSW, why not pick up that black MOMO and use it with
the
> TSW peds if you want FF? Most sims now support multiple simultaneous
> controllers. I've been using my MOMO (red) along with my TSW's peds for
years
> now in sims like GPL, Nascar Racing ( and Heat) , F1C, LFS, NetKar, TOCA
Race
> Driver 2 etc.
> I use the red MOMO, but only because my early model black MOMO's paddle
shifter
> broke after a few weeks (a problem that reportedly has been fixed in later
> models). I thought that the the wheel and FF of the black MOMO was quite
good.
> All you would need to do is keep your TSW hooked up to the PC, as is, and
hook
> up the MOMO via USB. The only drawback is the physical space taken up by
having
> 2 complete wheel/pedal systems hooked up to the PC at the same time.
> Bert
> > > It comes and goes. I'd say we are in a dead time right now it seems.
The
> > > fact Act Labs has slowly been dieing for the last year or more shows
that
> > > the market just can't support a lot of producers for the mass market
> > wheels.
> > > Logitech pretty much has a lock on that market now and the high end
> > makers
> > > like TSW, ECCI, etc get the rest.
> > > Despite what people here might think the sim racing market is just not
> > that
> > > big compared to other PC markets. Just not enough profit for the
effort I
> > > think. Easier to make money selling console games and controllers
with
> > less
> > > risk.
> > > > Hi all..was in a few stores (upstate NY area) yesterday. I am amazed
at
> > > the
> > > > lack of wheels for pc racing. Only wheel available was the black
momo.
> > > Used
> > > > to at least have your choice of a logi, ms, thrustmaster. Must be we
are
> > > not
> > > > that important.
> > > > DC
> > agreed..it would be nice to get a nice wheel that falls in between the
two
> > levels. I have a tsw but would like a decent ff wheel too. One that is
of
> > good quality with out having to take out a loan to purchase it.
> > Oh well...
> > DC
I tried the black momo and wasn't all that impressed. Maybe I didn't spend
enough time with it (or the settings)
happy racing..
DC
All the stores here in Florida have several racing wheels. Microsoft and
Act Labs are exiting the market, but they still have Logitech, Saitek, and
Thrustmaster. There's usually 4-6 wheels at most stores I go to, looking
for games. And that's JUST PC wheels.
I have a black Logitech Momo. The left paddle broke after two years of
off-and-on, but heavy, use (every few months I take a break from racing
altogether and put the wheel away for a while, and maybe get out my flight
stick or gamepad, and I'm always taking the wheel off my desk a few times a
day (one of these days if I have money, I will have a dedicated racing PC).
I fixed the paddle with some ABS glue and it seems to be working just fine
(although it was a little tough to take it apart and put it back together).
For 99 dollars I consider it a very good deal. It has a gear drive, but I
believe this system is probably far more reliable than a belt drive, even
though it will feel a little "notchy", especially when forces aren't acting
on the wheel. The feel is also solid, unlike some of the cheaper wheels,
and the force feedback can be quite powerful (whereas the little red
Logitech FF wheel I have, has very wimpy effects). The pedals also move
around very little and the base is nice and large- if you put down some
grippy no-slip matting, it doesn't move around at all.
> > Hi all..was in a few stores (upstate NY area) yesterday. I am amazed at
> the
> > lack of wheels for pc racing. Only wheel available was the black momo.
> Used
> > to at least have your choice of a logi, ms, thrustmaster. Must be we are
> not
> > that important.
> All the stores here in Florida have several racing wheels. Microsoft
and
> Act Labs are exiting the market, but they still have Logitech, Saitek, and
> Thrustmaster. There's usually 4-6 wheels at most stores I go to, looking
> for games. And that's JUST PC wheels.
Dave
> > David,
> > If you already have a TSW, why not pick up that black MOMO and use it
with
> the
> > TSW peds if you want FF? Most sims now support multiple simultaneous
> > controllers. I've been using my MOMO (red) along with my TSW's peds for
> years
> > now in sims like GPL, Nascar Racing ( and Heat) , F1C, LFS, NetKar, TOCA
> Race
> > Driver 2 etc.
> > I use the red MOMO, but only because my early model black MOMO's paddle
> shifter
> > broke after a few weeks (a problem that reportedly has been fixed in
later
> > models). I thought that the the wheel and FF of the black MOMO was
quite
> good.
> > All you would need to do is keep your TSW hooked up to the PC, as is,
and
> hook
> > up the MOMO via USB. The only drawback is the physical space taken up
by
> having
> > 2 complete wheel/pedal systems hooked up to the PC at the same time.
> > Bert
> > > > It comes and goes. I'd say we are in a dead time right now it
seems.
> The
> > > > fact Act Labs has slowly been dieing for the last year or more shows
> that
> > > > the market just can't support a lot of producers for the mass market
> > > wheels.
> > > > Logitech pretty much has a lock on that market now and the high end
> > > makers
> > > > like TSW, ECCI, etc get the rest.
> > > > Despite what people here might think the sim racing market is just
not
> > > that
> > > > big compared to other PC markets. Just not enough profit for the
> effort I
> > > > think. Easier to make money selling console games and controllers
> with
> > > less
> > > > risk.
> > > > > Hi all..was in a few stores (upstate NY area) yesterday. I am
amazed
> at
> > > > the
> > > > > lack of wheels for pc racing. Only wheel available was the black
> momo.
> > > > Used
> > > > > to at least have your choice of a logi, ms, thrustmaster. Must be
we
> are
> > > > not
> > > > > that important.
> > > > > DC
> > > agreed..it would be nice to get a nice wheel that falls in between the
> two
> > > levels. I have a tsw but would like a decent ff wheel too. One that
is
> of
> > > good quality with out having to take out a loan to purchase it.
> > > Oh well...
> > > DC
> Kind of forgot about that. I used to use the tsw pedals with my old red
> logi. In fact I found a few other wheels to be decent when I tried them
but
> the pedals were always the weakest part of the set up. That's where the
tsw
> pedals would come in handy.
> I tried the black momo and wasn't all that impressed. Maybe I didn't spend
> enough time with it (or the settings)
> happy racing..
> DC
> If you already have a TSW, why not pick up that black MOMO and use it with
the
> TSW peds if you want FF? Most sims now support multiple simultaneous
> controllers. I've been using my MOMO (red) along with my TSW's peds for
years
> now in sims like GPL, Nascar Racing ( and Heat) , F1C, LFS, NetKar, TOCA
Race
> Driver 2 etc.
> I use the red MOMO, but only because my early model black MOMO's paddle
shifter
> broke after a few weeks (a problem that reportedly has been fixed in later
> models). I thought that the the wheel and FF of the black MOMO was quite
good.
> All you would need to do is keep your TSW hooked up to the PC, as is, and
hook
> up the MOMO via USB. The only drawback is the physical space taken up by
having
> 2 complete wheel/pedal systems hooked up to the PC at the same time.
> Bert
> > > It comes and goes. I'd say we are in a dead time right now it seems.
The
> > > fact Act Labs has slowly been dieing for the last year or more shows
that
> > > the market just can't support a lot of producers for the mass market
> > wheels.
> > > Logitech pretty much has a lock on that market now and the high end
> > makers
> > > like TSW, ECCI, etc get the rest.
> > > Despite what people here might think the sim racing market is just not
> > that
> > > big compared to other PC markets. Just not enough profit for the
effort I
> > > think. Easier to make money selling console games and controllers
with
> > less
> > > risk.
> > > > Hi all..was in a few stores (upstate NY area) yesterday. I am amazed
at
> > > the
> > > > lack of wheels for pc racing. Only wheel available was the black
momo.
> > > Used
> > > > to at least have your choice of a logi, ms, thrustmaster. Must be we
are
> > > not
> > > > that important.
> > > > DC
> > agreed..it would be nice to get a nice wheel that falls in between the
two
> > levels. I have a tsw but would like a decent ff wheel too. One that is
of
> > good quality with out having to take out a loan to purchase it.
> > Oh well...
> > DC
Thanks again..
Dave
I don't know why your TSW "doesn't work to perfection" (your words) in XP,
because I have no problem with mine (an original TSW) and XP. Perhaps the pots
need cleaning/replacing?
Best of Luck with your new set-up..
Bert
> > If you already have a TSW, why not pick up that black MOMO and use it with
> the
> > TSW peds if you want FF? Most sims now support multiple simultaneous
> > controllers. I've been using my MOMO (red) along with my TSW's peds for
> years
> > now in sims like GPL, Nascar Racing ( and Heat) , F1C, LFS, NetKar, TOCA
> Race
> > Driver 2 etc.
> > I use the red MOMO, but only because my early model black MOMO's paddle
> shifter
> > broke after a few weeks (a problem that reportedly has been fixed in later
> > models). I thought that the the wheel and FF of the black MOMO was quite
> good.
> > All you would need to do is keep your TSW hooked up to the PC, as is, and
> hook
> > up the MOMO via USB. The only drawback is the physical space taken up by
> having
> > 2 complete wheel/pedal systems hooked up to the PC at the same time.
> > Bert
> > > > It comes and goes. I'd say we are in a dead time right now it seems.
> The
> > > > fact Act Labs has slowly been dieing for the last year or more shows
> that
> > > > the market just can't support a lot of producers for the mass market
> > > wheels.
> > > > Logitech pretty much has a lock on that market now and the high end
> > > makers
> > > > like TSW, ECCI, etc get the rest.
> > > > Despite what people here might think the sim racing market is just not
> > > that
> > > > big compared to other PC markets. Just not enough profit for the
> effort I
> > > > think. Easier to make money selling console games and controllers
> with
> > > less
> > > > risk.
> > > > > Hi all..was in a few stores (upstate NY area) yesterday. I am amazed
> at
> > > > the
> > > > > lack of wheels for pc racing. Only wheel available was the black
> momo.
> > > > Used
> > > > > to at least have your choice of a logi, ms, thrustmaster. Must be we
> are
> > > > not
> > > > > that important.
> > > > > DC
> > > agreed..it would be nice to get a nice wheel that falls in between the
> two
> > > levels. I have a tsw but would like a decent ff wheel too. One that is
> of
> > > good quality with out having to take out a loan to purchase it.
> > > Oh well...
> > > DC
> Bert...did exactly what you said. With very good results. Imho my tsw does
> not work to perfection in xp through the gameport or usb converter (as a
> whole). The new usb wheels are probably the way to go but for now I will
> stay with the momo and the tsw pedals. Hats off to papy for allowing their
> sims to use these configs.
> Thanks again..
> Dave
> I don't know why your TSW "doesn't work to perfection" (your words) in XP,
> because I have no problem with mine (an original TSW) and XP. Perhaps the
pots
> need cleaning/replacing?
> Best of Luck with your new set-up..
> Bert
> > > David,
> > > If you already have a TSW, why not pick up that black MOMO and use it
with
> > the
> > > TSW peds if you want FF? Most sims now support multiple simultaneous
> > > controllers. I've been using my MOMO (red) along with my TSW's peds
for
> > years
> > > now in sims like GPL, Nascar Racing ( and Heat) , F1C, LFS, NetKar,
TOCA
> > Race
> > > Driver 2 etc.
> > > I use the red MOMO, but only because my early model black MOMO's
paddle
> > shifter
> > > broke after a few weeks (a problem that reportedly has been fixed in
later
> > > models). I thought that the the wheel and FF of the black MOMO was
quite
> > good.
> > > All you would need to do is keep your TSW hooked up to the PC, as is,
and
> > hook
> > > up the MOMO via USB. The only drawback is the physical space taken up
by
> > having
> > > 2 complete wheel/pedal systems hooked up to the PC at the same time.
> > > Bert
> > > > > It comes and goes. I'd say we are in a dead time right now it
seems.
> > The
> > > > > fact Act Labs has slowly been dieing for the last year or more
shows
> > that
> > > > > the market just can't support a lot of producers for the mass
market
> > > > wheels.
> > > > > Logitech pretty much has a lock on that market now and the high
end
> > > > makers
> > > > > like TSW, ECCI, etc get the rest.
> > > > > Despite what people here might think the sim racing market is just
not
> > > > that
> > > > > big compared to other PC markets. Just not enough profit for the
> > effort I
> > > > > think. Easier to make money selling console games and controllers
> > with
> > > > less
> > > > > risk.
> > > > > > Hi all..was in a few stores (upstate NY area) yesterday. I am
amazed
> > at
> > > > > the
> > > > > > lack of wheels for pc racing. Only wheel available was the black
> > momo.
> > > > > Used
> > > > > > to at least have your choice of a logi, ms, thrustmaster. Must
be we
> > are
> > > > > not
> > > > > > that important.
> > > > > > DC
> > > > agreed..it would be nice to get a nice wheel that falls in between
the
> > two
> > > > levels. I have a tsw but would like a decent ff wheel too. One that
is
> > of
> > > > good quality with out having to take out a loan to purchase it.
> > > > Oh well...
> > > > DC
> > Bert...did exactly what you said. With very good results. Imho my tsw
does
> > not work to perfection in xp through the gameport or usb converter (as a
> > whole). The new usb wheels are probably the way to go but for now I will
> > stay with the momo and the tsw pedals. Hats off to papy for allowing
their
> > sims to use these configs.
> > Thanks again..
> > Dave
Thanks for the replies.
Dave