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Help me clean my pots!

Melissa Loeffle

Help me clean my pots!

by Melissa Loeffle » Tue, 21 Apr 1998 04:00:00

I've got a Thrustmaster T2 gas pedal on the blitz, and several people
recommended cleaning the pots. I opened up the bottom of the unit and see
two circle-shaped things with tape on them and red and white wires. What do
I do? I'm very low-tech, can
someone help out?

Also, is "DeoxIT" the right stuff to clean my pots?

One more, "pots" stands for potentiometers right?

Tom

Bruce Kennewel

Help me clean my pots!

by Bruce Kennewel » Tue, 21 Apr 1998 04:00:00

Not sure if I'm responding to a 'Tom' or a 'Melissa'!
However....answers are provided below.......
--
Regards,

Bruce.
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Grab a spray can of "electronic contact cleaner"....there are quite a few
brand-names but ask at your local electronics outlet.  The can should have
one of those tubes that can be plugged into the spray button.

Spray some of the liquid into the hole(s) on the pot
(yes...'potentiometer') and wiggle the knob backwards and forwards so that
the wiper surfaces are cleaned.  You should spray enough so that liquid
dribbles out of the device, flushing out any carbon dust (from the wiper
ring) and any dirt and dust deposits.

I'm very low-tech, can

I'm certainly trying to!

See above about brand-names but whatever you do *DO NOT* spray a lubricant
into the pot.....no WD40 or any of that type of stuff should ever be
sprayed into pots.........it cleans absolutely nothing and attracts more
gunk than you can poke a stick at.

Now, Grasshopper........go for it!! :-)

Yep!

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Tom Anderso

Help me clean my pots!

by Tom Anderso » Tue, 21 Apr 1998 04:00:00

Bruce - I'm Tom - I wrote the message, and the post you put up was one that
someone wrote to me before. My problem is that I don't know what the pot
looks like. I've got my T2 open and I see these circular things with
masking
tape over them. Am I supposed to remove the tape and squirt it in there?
I don't see any moveable parts. Should I just push the pedal back and forth
after I squirt in the juice?



> Not sure if I'm responding to a 'Tom' or a 'Melissa'!
> However....answers are provided below.......
> --
> Regards,

> Bruce.
> ----------------------------------


> > I've got a Thrustmaster T2 gas pedal on the blitz, and several people
> > recommended cleaning the pots. I opened up the bottom of the unit and
see
> > two circle-shaped things with tape on them and red and white wires.
What
> do
> > I do?

> Grab a spray can of "electronic contact cleaner"....there are quite a few
> brand-names but ask at your local electronics outlet.  The can should
have
> one of those tubes that can be plugged into the spray button.

> Spray some of the liquid into the hole(s) on the pot
> (yes...'potentiometer') and wiggle the knob backwards and forwards so
that
> the wiper surfaces are cleaned.  You should spray enough so that liquid
> dribbles out of the device, flushing out any carbon dust (from the wiper
> ring) and any dirt and dust deposits.

> I'm very low-tech, can
> > someone help out?

> I'm certainly trying to!

> > Also, is "DeoxIT" the right stuff to clean my pots?

> See above about brand-names but whatever you do *DO NOT* spray a
lubricant
> into the pot.....no WD40 or any of that type of stuff should ever be
> sprayed into pots.........it cleans absolutely nothing and attracts more
> gunk than you can poke a stick at.

> Now, Grasshopper........go for it!! :-)

> > One more, "pots" stands for potentiometers right?

> Yep!

> -----------

Michael E. Carve

Help me clean my pots!

by Michael E. Carve » Wed, 22 Apr 1998 04:00:00


% Bruce - I'm Tom - I wrote the message, and the post you put up was one that
% someone wrote to me before. My problem is that I don't know what the pot
% looks like. I've got my T2 open and I see these circular things with
% masking
% tape over them. Am I supposed to remove the tape and squirt it in there?
% I don't see any moveable parts. Should I just push the pedal back and forth
% after I squirt in the juice?

The pots are usually slivery-metal cylinders and should have a couple of
wires connected to them.  On one (for the pedals) there should be a
small shaft with a gear attached (the gears may only be geared on half
of the "circle").  Use the "tube" attachement for your switch cleaner
and spray the cleaner inside the unit.  I usually use the openings where
the wires are attached to the lugs.  When the cleaner starts to come
shooting back out, stop spraying and then move the pedals several times
through their full motion.  This will work the cleaner over all the
contacts.  For good measure go through this process one more time before
you seal up the unit and head back out to the track.

If the above doesn't get you going, contact Thrustmaster's Support site
and requestion new pots (or you can get a RMA and send the unit in for
them to replace them from you -- as it will require some soldering).

http://www.thrustmaster.com/support/servmail.htm

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KREVH TADE

Help me clean my pots!

by KREVH TADE » Wed, 22 Apr 1998 04:00:00

Hi all,


 go to http://www.lfrs.com
and into utilities or something like that. You'll find t2fix.zip file there.
Download it, unzip it and read the document. It's about cleaning the pot
in the wheel, but it's the same thing for the pots in the peddals.

Wouldn't know. I used sewing machine oil.

Yupp.

Regards,

Tadej Krevh
TSW Monkey Grand Prix Co-manager
TSW Monkey Grand Prix Technical Director
LFRS clas B (http://www.lfrs.com)

Bruce Kennewel

Help me clean my pots!

by Bruce Kennewel » Wed, 22 Apr 1998 04:00:00

You used SEWING MACHINE OIL???????

I suggest that you clean them again, this time with a proprietary brand
electronic contact cleaner, as soon as possible.  What they are now doing
is attracting and holding every bit of dust and dirt that comes near them!!
--
Regards,

Bruce.



Joe Droga

Help me clean my pots!

by Joe Droga » Wed, 22 Apr 1998 04:00:00

Yikes!
I WAS gonna try an' be cute and suggest SOS pads, but with this I'd better not!

Joe


> You used SEWING MACHINE OIL???????

> I suggest that you clean them again, this time with a proprietary brand
> electronic contact cleaner, as soon as possible.  What they are now doing
> is attracting and holding every bit of dust and dirt that comes near them!!
> --
> Regards,

> Bruce.



> > Wouldn't know. I used sewing machine oil.

KREVH TADE

Help me clean my pots!

by KREVH TADE » Thu, 23 Apr 1998 04:00:00

Hi,


yes, I used sewing machine oil :)
And it works just great. I've cleaned my pots 3 or 4 months ago (they
were in a really bad shape) and my wheel still works like new.

Now way, I am not opening that thingie again. I really hate the glue TM
puts on their screws :) and as I said, there is no need to do that.

Erm, I've closed the pots when putting them back ;)

Regards,

Tadej Krevh

Richard Carls

Help me clean my pots!

by Richard Carls » Thu, 23 Apr 1998 04:00:00

I cleaned mine on my grinder in the garage. Now I can't find the
goddam things, just this 'lil pile of metal shavings.

Rick

Steve-

Help me clean my pots!

by Steve- » Thu, 23 Apr 1998 04:00:00

Thanks for the info Bruce.  I originally followed the WD-40 advice
offered by persons unknown and blamed the short life span on cheap
parts.  Went to radio $hack last night and got some Tuner Control
cleaner & lube and the Wheel is working great again.  Hadn't thought of
it collecting dust as I figured it was enclosed in it's own pot & the
wooden box that I made my wheel of (complete with sawdust, sigh).  

   Steve-S

Ps.  Humble apologies to everyone to whom I suggested WD-40.




> > Now way, I am not opening that thingie again. I really hate the glue TM
> > puts on their screws :) and as I said, there is no need to do that.

> > > What they are now doing
> > > is attracting and holding every bit of dust and dirt that comes near them!!

> > Erm, I've closed the pots when putting them back ;)

> > Regards,

> > Tadej Krevh

> Okay.....your loss.
> If the pedal unit is on the floor then believe me when I say that dirt
> and dust is getting into the actual potentiometer unit.  Also believe me
> when I tell you that you have not "cleaned" the carbon ring/brass wiper
> by using sewing machine oil: you have lubricated the components and left
> an efficient dust-attracting residue.  The carbon ring will be eroded
> away in half the time as it would under normal usage and cleaning.  It's
> accuracy will also degrade and you will have to "clean" it more often.

> This information comes to you free-of-charge from an ex-electronics
> technician.
> --
> Regards,
> ---
> Bruce.

> The Grand Prix Legends Historic Motor Racing Club:-
> http://www.netspeed.com.au/brucek/legends/

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Bruce Kennewe

Help me clean my pots!

by Bruce Kennewe » Fri, 24 Apr 1998 04:00:00



Okay.....your loss.
If the pedal unit is on the floor then believe me when I say that dirt
and dust is getting into the actual potentiometer unit.  Also believe me
when I tell you that you have not "cleaned" the carbon ring/brass wiper
by using sewing machine oil: you have lubricated the components and left
an efficient dust-attracting residue.  The carbon ring will be eroded
away in half the time as it would under normal usage and cleaning.  It's
accuracy will also degrade and you will have to "clean" it more often.

This information comes to you free-of-charge from an ex-electronics
technician.
--
Regards,
---
Bruce.

The Grand Prix Legends Historic Motor Racing Club:-
http://www.netspeed.com.au/brucek/legends/

Bruce Kennewe

Help me clean my pots!

by Bruce Kennewe » Fri, 24 Apr 1998 04:00:00


No problem, Steve.
Glad you could use a few words of wisdom from an oldie! :-)
--
Regards,
---
Bruce.

The Grand Prix Legends Historic Motor Racing Club:-
http://www.netspeed.com.au/brucek/legends/

David Marti

Help me clean my pots!

by David Marti » Tue, 28 Apr 1998 04:00:00



> > Thanks for the info Bruce.  I originally followed the WD-40 advice
> > offered by persons unknown and blamed the short life span on cheap
> > parts.  Went to radio $hack last night and got some Tuner Control
> > cleaner & lube and the Wheel is working great again.  Hadn't thought of
> > it collecting dust as I figured it was enclosed in it's own pot & the
> > wooden box that I made my wheel of (complete with sawdust, sigh).

> > --
> No problem, Steve.
> Glad you could use a few words of wisdom from an oldie! :-)
> --
> Regards,
> ---
> Bruce.

> The Grand Prix Legends Historic Motor Racing Club:-
> http://www.netspeed.com.au/brucek/legends/

No matter what you do to clean your pots they will eventually wear out.
If anyone has a good source of 100K Ohm pots with plastic shafts please
post the info to the newsgroup.  I have to replace mine about twice a
year and very few suppliers carry 100K Ohm pots.  200K Ohm pots will
work, but it is incredible how much better a 100K feels.

David Martin


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