rec.autos.simulators

> I have thought about doing some online racing but after looking at the steps
> necessary to get connected I have been put off. Is it really as big a pain
> as it looks ? I remember geting into an online race was simple in Cart
> precision racing. Does it really have to be such a mess for GPL ?

> Joe

>It looks worse than it is.  It was about an hour of reading for me, including a
>bunch of related links, most of which you just skim over.  Mind you, I'm the
>kind of guy who reads instructions and owner's manuals too, so I probably
>covered more than I had to.  It's not that bad or that complex of a procedure,
>they're just very thorough.  Trust me, it's worth it.

>            Zog

>> I have thought about doing some online racing but after looking at the steps
>> necessary to get connected I have been put off. Is it really as big a pain
>> as it looks ? I remember geting into an online race was simple in Cart
>> precision racing. Does it really have to be such a mess for GPL ?

>> Joe

>I have thought about doing some online racing but after looking at the
steps
>necessary to get connected I have been put off. Is it really as big a pain
>as it looks ? I remember geting into an online race was simple in Cart
>precision racing. Does it really have to be such a mess for GPL ?

>Joe

> GPL only SOUNDS like a pain to set up for -- the setup is not all that
bad,
> and VROC makes on-line racing with GPL no more difficult than surfing the
> Web.  Finding a race on VROC is literally easier than using a search
engine
> to find info about VROC or GPL, so don't deprive yourself any longer --
> start racing on-line with GPL ASAP!

> -- JB

> >I have thought about doing some online racing but after looking at the
> steps
> >necessary to get connected I have been put off. Is it really as big a
pain
> >as it looks ? I remember geting into an online race was simple in Cart
> >precision racing. Does it really have to be such a mess for GPL ?

> >Joe

> I believe when you install the 1.1 patch any sounds you may have changed
will be
> overwritten with the default sounds from the patch.  You should be able to
> restore your sounds of choice using the same process you used to install
them in
> the first place.  The first time I went on-line, I redid all my options,
setups,
> etc. because I was prompted for a new driver name, which I entered.  I
found out
> later that all I had to do was hit the left arrow on the driver info
screen and
> there was my normal name with all my preferred options and setups.
Depending on
> the connection speed and quality of the various drivers in the race, some
cars,
> including possibly your own, may wink in and out erratically which is a
pain in
> the ass.  Not much you can do about this, except try to join races with a
fast
> host.  Even then, one driver with a poor connection can wreak havoc on the
> entire field, but hey, they want to have fun too.  To leave the race, all
I've
> ever had to do is bring the car to a complete stop, hit escape and then
enter.
> Your setups might feel all screwed up, because the 1.1 patch raised the
minimum
> ride height to 2.5", so no more go-kart setups.

> The best advice I can give, if it's possible where you live, is to get a
cable
> modem connection at minimum.  My on-line experience was pretty dreary with
a
> 56.6, even with good phone lines and a lot of tweaking.  My ISP just
couldn't
> cut the mustard, and huge lapses in the connection made driving a
nightmare for
> myself and anyone else in the race, so I quit.  With the cable modem, it's
an
> absolute treat to race on-line.  Hope this helps, hope to see you on VROC.

>             Zog

> > After my original post I said to myself, self, why don't you just go
ahead
> > and give it a try. Well I downloaded and installed GPL 1.1, Spyboy 2 &
its
> > patch. My HUGE appologies to the poor guys I raced with at Silverstone
late
> > last night. I really wasn't used to cars magically appearing out of
nowhere.
> > I don't think I really creamed anyone but I know I sure wreaked havoc on
> > anyone near me. I was somehow running 6th with God only knows what
setup. I
> > wasn't sure how to escape so I just crashed hard. That sure got me out.
> > Only problem I had was one of the installations completely screwed up my
> > engine sounds. This I can't accept. If it can't be resolved I will have
to
> > revert back to the old setup and not race online. I am hoping to get
> > responses to my other post on this matter.
> > Thanks to everyone for the encouragement to try it out.

> > Joe

> > > GPL only SOUNDS like a pain to set up for -- the setup is not all that
> > bad,
> > > and VROC makes on-line racing with GPL no more difficult than surfing
the
> > > Web.  Finding a race on VROC is literally easier than using a search
> > engine
> > > to find info about VROC or GPL, so don't deprive yourself any
longer --
> > > start racing on-line with GPL ASAP!

> > > -- JB

> > > >I have thought about doing some online racing but after looking at
the
> > > steps
> > > >necessary to get connected I have been put off. Is it really as big a
> > pain
> > > >as it looks ? I remember geting into an online race was simple in
Cart
> > > >precision racing. Does it really have to be such a mess for GPL ?

> > > >Joe

> After my original post I said to myself, self, why don't you just go ahead
> and give it a try. Well I downloaded and installed GPL 1.1, Spyboy 2 & its
> patch. My HUGE appologies to the poor guys I raced with at Silverstone late
> last night. I really wasn't used to cars magically appearing out of nowhere.
> I don't think I really creamed anyone but I know I sure wreaked havoc on
> anyone near me. I was somehow running 6th with God only knows what setup. I
> wasn't sure how to escape so I just crashed hard. That sure got me out.
> Only problem I had was one of the installations completely screwed up my
> engine sounds. This I can't accept. If it can't be resolved I will have to
> revert back to the old setup and not race online. I am hoping to get
> responses to my other post on this matter.
> Thanks to everyone for the encouragement to try it out.

> Joe

> > GPL only SOUNDS like a pain to set up for -- the setup is not all that
> bad,
> > and VROC makes on-line racing with GPL no more difficult than surfing the
> > Web.  Finding a race on VROC is literally easier than using a search
> engine
> > to find info about VROC or GPL, so don't deprive yourself any longer --
> > start racing on-line with GPL ASAP!

> > -- JB

> > >I have thought about doing some online racing but after looking at the
> > steps
> > >necessary to get connected I have been put off. Is it really as big a
> pain
> > >as it looks ? I remember geting into an online race was simple in Cart
> > >precision racing. Does it really have to be such a mess for GPL ?

> > >Joe

> I give up on the 1.1 patch. Did a clean reinstall of GPL. Patched it with
> 1.1 Did the Mea***er 3.0 patch. Sound still sucks. The only thing that
> cures the problem is to replace the 1.1 exe file with the original. (Back to
> 1.0) This tells me the problem is with 1.1 and not the Mea***er sound
> patch. The question is : do I really need 1.1 ? If so it isn't worth the
> trouble. The 2.5" ride height isn't a problem as I use Allison Hines setups
> on every car. Most of the setups are 3.5". Is there really any other
> compelling reason to upgrade ? With all the problems I have seen here
> related to 1.1 why the hell did they release it ? If 1.0 won't work online
> then I guess I will just be racing with the AI from now on.

> Joe


> > I believe when you install the 1.1 patch any sounds you may have changed
> will be
> > overwritten with the default sounds from the patch.  You should be able to
> > restore your sounds of choice using the same process you used to install
> them in
> > the first place.  The first time I went on-line, I redid all my options,
> setups,
> > etc. because I was prompted for a new driver name, which I entered.  I
> found out
> > later that all I had to do was hit the left arrow on the driver info
> screen and
> > there was my normal name with all my preferred options and setups.
> Depending on
> > the connection speed and quality of the various drivers in the race, some
> cars,
> > including possibly your own, may wink in and out erratically which is a
> pain in
> > the ass.  Not much you can do about this, except try to join races with a
> fast
> > host.  Even then, one driver with a poor connection can wreak havoc on the
> > entire field, but hey, they want to have fun too.  To leave the race, all
> I've
> > ever had to do is bring the car to a complete stop, hit escape and then
> enter.
> > Your setups might feel all screwed up, because the 1.1 patch raised the
> minimum
> > ride height to 2.5", so no more go-kart setups.

> > The best advice I can give, if it's possible where you live, is to get a
> cable
> > modem connection at minimum.  My on-line experience was pretty dreary with
> a
> > 56.6, even with good phone lines and a lot of tweaking.  My ISP just
> couldn't
> > cut the mustard, and huge lapses in the connection made driving a
> nightmare for
> > myself and anyone else in the race, so I quit.  With the cable modem, it's
> an
> > absolute treat to race on-line.  Hope this helps, hope to see you on VROC.

> >             Zog

> > > After my original post I said to myself, self, why don't you just go
> ahead
> > > and give it a try. Well I downloaded and installed GPL 1.1, Spyboy 2 &
> its
> > > patch. My HUGE appologies to the poor guys I raced with at Silverstone
> late
> > > last night. I really wasn't used to cars magically appearing out of
> nowhere.
> > > I don't think I really creamed anyone but I know I sure wreaked havoc on
> > > anyone near me. I was somehow running 6th with God only knows what
> setup. I
> > > wasn't sure how to escape so I just crashed hard. That sure got me out.
> > > Only problem I had was one of the installations completely screwed up my
> > > engine sounds. This I can't accept. If it can't be resolved I will have
> to
> > > revert back to the old setup and not race online. I am hoping to get
> > > responses to my other post on this matter.
> > > Thanks to everyone for the encouragement to try it out.

> > > Joe

> > > > GPL only SOUNDS like a pain to set up for -- the setup is not all that
> > > bad,
> > > > and VROC makes on-line racing with GPL no more difficult than surfing
> the
> > > > Web.  Finding a race on VROC is literally easier than using a search
> > > engine
> > > > to find info about VROC or GPL, so don't deprive yourself any
> longer --
> > > > start racing on-line with GPL ASAP!

> > > > -- JB

> > > > >I have thought about doing some online racing but after looking at
> the
> > > > steps
> > > > >necessary to get connected I have been put off. Is it really as big a
> > > pain
> > > > >as it looks ? I remember geting into an online race was simple in
> Cart
> > > > >precision racing. Does it really have to be such a mess for GPL ?

> > > > >Joe

> It does indeed sound like the Mea***er patch isn't compatible with V1.1.  If
> you just gotta have those sounds you're screwed.  I've been running 1.1 since
> the day they released it, only problem I've had is the turbo/slo-mo thing once
> in a while.  You can race on-line using 1.0 on VROC, there's a race room for
> people still using it.

>             Zog

> It does indeed sound like the Mea***er patch isn't compatible with V1.1.
If
> you just gotta have those sounds you're screwed.  I've been running 1.1
since
> the day they released it, only problem I've had is the turbo/slo-mo thing
once
> in a while.  You can race on-line using 1.0 on VROC, there's a race room
for
> people still using it.

>             Zog

> > I give up on the 1.1 patch. Did a clean reinstall of GPL. Patched it
with
> > 1.1 Did the Mea***er 3.0 patch. Sound still sucks. The only thing that
> > cures the problem is to replace the 1.1 exe file with the original.
(Back to
> > 1.0) This tells me the problem is with 1.1 and not the Mea***er sound
> > patch. The question is : do I really need 1.1 ? If so it isn't worth the
> > trouble. The 2.5" ride height isn't a problem as I use Allison Hines
setups
> > on every car. Most of the setups are 3.5". Is there really any other
> > compelling reason to upgrade ? With all the problems I have seen here
> > related to 1.1 why the hell did they release it ? If 1.0 won't work
online
> > then I guess I will just be racing with the AI from now on.

> > Joe


> > > I believe when you install the 1.1 patch any sounds you may have
changed
> > will be
> > > overwritten with the default sounds from the patch.  You should be
able to
> > > restore your sounds of choice using the same process you used to
install
> > them in
> > > the first place.  The first time I went on-line, I redid all my
options,
> > setups,
> > > etc. because I was prompted for a new driver name, which I entered.  I
> > found out
> > > later that all I had to do was hit the left arrow on the driver info
> > screen and
> > > there was my normal name with all my preferred options and setups.
> > Depending on
> > > the connection speed and quality of the various drivers in the race,
some
> > cars,
> > > including possibly your own, may wink in and out erratically which is
a
> > pain in
> > > the ass.  Not much you can do about this, except try to join races
with a
> > fast
> > > host.  Even then, one driver with a poor connection can wreak havoc on
the
> > > entire field, but hey, they want to have fun too.  To leave the race,
all
> > I've
> > > ever had to do is bring the car to a complete stop, hit escape and
then
> > enter.
> > > Your setups might feel all screwed up, because the 1.1 patch raised
the
> > minimum
> > > ride height to 2.5", so no more go-kart setups.

> > > The best advice I can give, if it's possible where you live, is to get
a
> > cable
> > > modem connection at minimum.  My on-line experience was pretty dreary
with
> > a
> > > 56.6, even with good phone lines and a lot of tweaking.  My ISP just
> > couldn't
> > > cut the mustard, and huge lapses in the connection made driving a
> > nightmare for
> > > myself and anyone else in the race, so I quit.  With the cable modem,
it's
> > an
> > > absolute treat to race on-line.  Hope this helps, hope to see you on
VROC.

> > >             Zog

> > > > After my original post I said to myself, self, why don't you just go
> > ahead
> > > > and give it a try. Well I downloaded and installed GPL 1.1, Spyboy 2
&
> > its
> > > > patch. My HUGE appologies to the poor guys I raced with at
Silverstone
> > late
> > > > last night. I really wasn't used to cars magically appearing out of
> > nowhere.
> > > > I don't think I really creamed anyone but I know I sure wreaked
havoc on
> > > > anyone near me. I was somehow running 6th with God only knows what
> > setup. I
> > > > wasn't sure how to escape so I just crashed hard. That sure got me
out.
> > > > Only problem I had was one of the installations completely screwed
up my
> > > > engine sounds. This I can't accept. If it can't be resolved I will
have
> > to
> > > > revert back to the old setup and not race online. I am hoping to get
> > > > responses to my other post on this matter.
> > > > Thanks to everyone for the encouragement to try it out.

> > > > Joe

> > > > > GPL only SOUNDS like a pain to set up for -- the setup is not all
that
> > > > bad,
> > > > > and VROC makes on-line racing with GPL no more difficult than
surfing
> > the
> > > > > Web.  Finding a race on VROC is literally easier than using a
search
> > > > engine
> > > > > to find info about VROC or GPL, so don't deprive yourself any
> > longer --
> > > > > start racing on-line with GPL ASAP!

> > > > > -- JB

> > > > > >I have thought about doing some online racing but after looking
at
> > the
> > > > > steps
> > > > > >necessary to get connected I have been put off. Is it really as
big a
> > > > pain
> > > > > >as it looks ? I remember geting into an online race was simple in
> > Cart
> > > > > >precision racing. Does it really have to be such a mess for GPL ?

> > > > > >Joe