rec.autos.simulators

by **Andrew MacPhers** » Wed, 03 Oct 2001 16:07:00

> Is anyone else just completely bored of GPL.

I'm getting precious little time for GPL since I started 6 day weeks a few
months ago... but I still long for a regular online fix! It's all about
racing with other people for me. Can't see me ever getting tired of it in
that sense, especially as the sim itself keeps getting "redecorated"
thanks to the add-on gurus!

Andrew "not sure how many VROC IP addresses I am out of date any more" McP

by **Rafe McAulif** » Wed, 03 Oct 2001 20:15:01

On Mon, 1 Oct 2001 23:37:19 -0400, Skotty Flynn

>> 2. Sales of GPL were mediocre at best (because it was discovered, suprise,
>> suprise that it required skill and people just normally can't hack that sort
>> of abstract concept) so authors of sims like these are not gonna make much
>> cash. So back to the first point.

>You really believe this?
>The lack of sales was no doubt due to the era the sim was based upon. I
>mean, how would people know how much skill it would require by looking at
>a box on the shelf? You think everyone out there tried the demo and
>thought it was too hard, so in return it didn't sell well?

The problem was the combination of the two. I think people would be
keen to work at learning to drive GPL if it was based on modern F1 or
similar. Look at N4...

But combine a difficult to master sim with a piece of history that
doesn't e*** the average consumer, and we have a product that
doesn't sell.

Rafe Mc

by **Thom j** » Wed, 03 Oct 2001 21:18:29

Scott, I think you have hit on the real issue of this header! jmo tho'...

| I'm actually bored with sim racing in general to be honest. Alot of empty
| expectations and promises over the last couple of years. =(
|
| --
| Scott B. Husted
| ICQ# 4395450
| http://www.racesimcentral.net/
|
|
|

| > Is anyone else just completely bored of GPL.
| >
| > I dont mean - "Ah - I'll give it a fortnight and I'll be loving it
again"
| >
| > I mean "I really dont like this anymore. Frankly it sucks. I dont want
to
| > drive something thats 34 years old. I dont like the cars, I'm bored of
the
| > tracks, I cant stand it any more."
| >
| > I know I'm at best, average at GPL. But frankly - I'm just bored to ***
| > with it. I cant be bothered anymore
| >
| > Doug
| >
| >
| >
|
|

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by **Joakim Lauridse** » Thu, 04 Oct 2001 01:08:13

I keep reading this, but if sales where so bad, how come there are at least
2 budget releases of it, i.e.. Sierra Classics? I would think if it had
tanked, they would just have cut their loses and moved on. Instead they are
trying to cash in on its popularity 2-3 years later. I would think that
would be something you would mainly do to successful titles.

Joakim

by **Goy Larse** » Thu, 04 Oct 2001 02:50:25

> Scott, I think you have hit on the real issue of this header! jmo tho'...

> | I'm actually bored with sim racing in general to be honest. Alot of empty
> | expectations and promises over the last couple of years. =(
> |
> | --
> | Scott B. Husted
> | ICQ# 4395450
> | http://www.PowerSimsMag.com

Was bound to happen sooner or later, Husted being right I
mean........although I would have expected it to take another 5-10
years, bit like Dave H's driving

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy

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by **Jan Verschuere** » Thu, 04 Oct 2001 02:57:05

True Curtis,

Last Sunday we (GPVL FV league), were at Mexico. Pro Long. Started in 7th or
something, battled my way into 5th fairly easily (capitalizing on mistakes)
but then hit a driver who, while slightly slower than me at the time, didn't
present any easy passing opportunities. Cue much searching and prodding,
combined with darting and weaving in an attempt to break his concentration.
Finally got alongside due to slight twitch on his part, but still had to go
deep to make it stick. Managed to open a bit of a gap, but then made a
concentration error and damaged the engine, which, eventually, saw me drop
back down to 8th.

The amount of mental agility required, the intensity of the four-wheeled
combat and the whole gamut of emotions... I just can't see how anyone could
grow tired of that.

So, don't really agree with your generalisation, but you certainly have a
point.

Jan.
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by **Scott B. Huste** » Thu, 04 Oct 2001 04:24:35

Bah... don't you have a Voodoo card slideshow to watch??? ;)

Scott
PA-Scott
PowerSimsMag.com

> > Scott, I think you have hit on the real issue of this header! jmo
tho'...

> > | I'm actually bored with sim racing in general to be honest. Alot of
empty
> > | expectations and promises over the last couple of years. =(
> > |
> > | --
> > | Scott B. Husted
> > | ICQ# 4395450
> > | http://www.PowerSimsMag.com

> Was bound to happen sooner or later, Husted being right I
> mean........although I would have expected it to take another 5-10
> years, bit like Dave H's driving

> Beers and cheers
> (uncle) Goy

> "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/

> * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way *
> "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com

by **Peter Nilsso** » Thu, 04 Oct 2001 05:22:36

On Tue, 02 Oct 2001 02:08:03 GMT, "Rik Anthrax"

>> > Is anyone else just completely bored of GPL.

>> No. What's boring about driving a racing car?

>Nothing, but the question was about a computer game.

No, the question was about GPL.

/petern

by **Ian** » Thu, 04 Oct 2001 05:29:39

Actually, I hate hotlapping, most of my best times have been set in races.
For example in a Watkins race 17 laps, I will normally start off running
mid1:05's gradually improving as the race progresses, normally getting at
least 2 or 3 laps in the high 1:04's in a Ferrari.
I used to love GPL, I ran the UKGPL league for a while and came 2nd in the
first year championship. However, time has taken it's toll and I now find
myself in a position where I'm bored with it. It's not that I don't like GPL
anymore, far from it, I just no longer find it a compulsive game. It's been
on my HD for 3 and a half years (if you count the demo) whereas any other
game lasts a maximum of 6 months so this is in no way a criticism of GPL.
It's just that I've become bored with it.

--

Ian P
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by **John Bod** » Thu, 04 Oct 2001 05:38:58

I love, admire, and respect GPL for what it is, and it has a permanent
home on my hard drive -- I absolutely LOVE to take the Ferrari out on
the Mexico track from time to time. Beyond that, I'd have to say I'm
pretty bored with it. Yeah, my GPLRank sucks, so I probably have a
lot to learn from GPL, but I also have a life. I don't race online
that much, so that aspect of GPL doesn't burn brightly for me, and
when I want to relax and spend some time sim racing, there are other,
much more entertaining diversions out there for me to spend time with,
IMO. When I want a ***, no-compromise sim experience, GPL is
still the ticket, but it's definitely not a passion these days.

-- JB (joining the ranks of the heretics)

On Mon, 1 Oct 2001 22:37:59 +0100, "Douglas Ellison"

>Is anyone else just completely bored of GPL.

>I dont mean - "Ah - I'll give it a fortnight and I'll be loving it again"

>I mean "I really dont like this anymore. Frankly it sucks. I dont want to
>drive something thats 34 years old. I dont like the cars, I'm bored of the
>tracks, I cant stand it any more."

>I know I'm at best, average at GPL. But frankly - I'm just bored to ***
>with it. I cant be bothered anymore

>Doug

by **Goy Larse** » Thu, 04 Oct 2001 06:38:07

> Bah... don't you have a Voodoo card slideshow to watch??? ;)

I've always gone for quality over quantity, so rather than having 60
ugly frames pr second, I get 40 good looking frames pr second.....:-)

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy

http://www.theuspits.com
http://www.teammirage.com

"A woman is an occasional pleasure but a cigar is always a smoke"
--Groucho Marx--

by **Scott B. Huste** » Thu, 04 Oct 2001 12:19:05

If you think a Voodoo card looks better, you better get out of the PC making
business because you are doing something incredibly wrong! LOLOL ;)

--
Scott B. Husted
ICQ# 4395450
http://www.Husted.cc

> > Bah... don't you have a Voodoo card slideshow to watch??? ;)

> I've always gone for quality over quantity, so rather than having 60
> ugly frames pr second, I get 40 good looking frames pr second.....:-)

> Beers and cheers
> (uncle) Goy

> http://www.theuspits.com
> http://www.teammirage.com

> "A woman is an occasional pleasure but a cigar is always a smoke"
> --Groucho Marx--

by **imaswinge** » Thu, 04 Oct 2001 13:09:53

that's a much better explanation of what I meant, thanx. THAT, in my mind,
could never get boring.

curtis

by **Dave Henri** » Thu, 04 Oct 2001 15:29:57

You just don't know how sierra operates. They are still pushing discount
copies of nascar2 from way before gpl. How many different versions of ICR2
did they re-issue before finally abandoning it?
dave henrie

> > 2. Sales of GPL were mediocre at best (because it was discovered,
suprise,
> > suprise that it required skill and people just normally can't hack that
> sort
> > of abstract concept) so authors of sims like these are not gonna make
much
> > cash. So back to the first point.

> I keep reading this, but if sales where so bad, how come there are at
least
> 2 budget releases of it, i.e.. Sierra Classics? I would think if it had
> tanked, they would just have cut their loses and moved on. Instead they
are
> trying to cash in on its popularity 2-3 years later. I would think that
> would be something you would mainly do to successful titles.

> Joakim

by **Dave Henri** » Thu, 04 Oct 2001 15:32:05

See, he just isn't racing the right people. How could he be bored when
he would have to watch out for moi....the human lawn-mower. It's especially
tough because he has to use those little screens on the side of the car to
see me...:)
dave henrie

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