rec.autos.simulators

In my opion, GPL is the best racing sim ever !

I think  it's very difficult to improve GPL, but
what are your wishes for GPL 2 ?

some of the tracks would still be there (Nurburgring) and such.. Brands
Hatch.. more tracks in a year! maybe a full version of Monza including
the banking...

I don't think much needs improving over the old GPL.. it's an awesome
game.. I guess an improvement on the engine would be nice.. and the
faces.. well no comment... at least I think it'd be the start of the
"Fire proof Overalls" and "Full Face Helmet" Era... anyway.. just a few
ideas...

                        <fluffypony>

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| I guess an improvement on the engine would be nice.. and the
| faces.. well no comment... at least I think it'd be the start of the
| "Fire proof Overalls" and "Full Face Helmet" Era... anyway.. just a few
| ideas...
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| <fluffypony>
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If you had $10,000 - and you invested $5,000 - only to loose ALL of it -
would you invest the remaining $5,000 in exactly the same way.

Didn't think so

Doug

The point is I and many others have a copy and are still enjoying it. I
would have liked the authors to have done well off it, but the general
concensus is they didn't. Whether this procludes a sequel has neither been
officially confirmed or denied. It's unlikely, but I'm sure the programming
team would like to do another one if they could somehow sell the idea.

Even with this reality check out of the way, I don't think it would hurt
anybody to discuss what extra features/improvements/cars/era people would
like to see. In absense of a sequel the GPL .exe is eventually going to be
hacked beyond recognition, so IMO a little inspiration might be a positive
thing.

Take a happy pill or something... sheesh!!

Jan.
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| THERE ISN'T GOING TO BE A GPL 2.
|
| If you had $10,000 - and you invested $5,000 - only to loose ALL of it -
| would you invest the remaining $5,000 in exactly the same way.
|
|
| Didn't think so
|
| Doug
|
|
|


| > Hi,
| >
| > In my opion, GPL is the best racing sim ever !
| >
| > I think  it's very difficult to improve GPL, but
| > what are your wishes for GPL 2 ?
| >
| >
| >
|
|

I would love to see another to Jan V But! yes there is a but below you
state:"but I'm sure the programming team would like to do another one"
The original programmers for GPL { I may be wrong but I know most
who were the original programmers } are long gone.. Actually the two
main developers now have their own Co. called "Wolf" something?
So as urself I'd love to see another but it would be a new project with
new developers.. There are many on in this NG who can verify this &
might but many wont say a word..Right? <g> and to be honest I dont
blame them..lol
Cheers Thom_j.

| You're probably right, but did you have to be quite so pedantic about
| it? -We've already been told GPL was no great commercial success many
times,
| thank you.
|
| The point is I and many others have a copy and are still enjoying it. I
| would have liked the authors to have done well off it, but the general
| concensus is they didn't. Whether this procludes a sequel has neither been
| officially confirmed or denied. It's unlikely, but I'm sure the
programming
| team would like to do another one if they could somehow sell the idea.
|
| Even with this reality check out of the way, I don't think it would hurt
| anybody to discuss what extra features/improvements/cars/era people would
| like to see. In absense of a sequel the GPL .exe is eventually going to be
| hacked beyond recognition, so IMO a little inspiration might be a positive
| thing.
| Take a happy pill or something... sheesh!!
| Jan.

That would complicate matters as they, obviously, would be legally bound not
to use "Papyrus technology" within a certain timeframe... not to mention
forming a team of programmers/betatester and finding a publisher.

Like I said, unlikely, but using the money argument to attempt to stop a
basically harmless discussion just hit all the wrong buttons with me.

Jan.
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Pit stops, weather and an expanded range of tracks/cars from the 20's
through the seventies.

Fully developed lower classes complete with a 'career' mode.

Other than that, with the add ons and graphics updates that people have made
so far the damned thing is already nigh on perfect.

KFG

Randy

| Yes indeed, you are quite wrong :-)  _The_ two main engineers that
developed
| GPL are Dave Kaemmer and myself (Randy Cassidy), and we are both still
here
| at Papyrus.
|
| Randy
|


| >
| > I would love to see another to Jan V But! yes there is a but below you
| > state:"but I'm sure the programming team would like to do another one"
| > The original programmers for GPL { I may be wrong but I know most
| > who were the original programmers } are long gone.. Actually the two
| > main developers now have their own Co. called "Wolf" something?
|
|
|

Yeah I know I'm just teasing, GPL2 will only happen in our f dreams.  The
closest we will go is either an open-source sim or the constant updates to
GPL.  The thing is, just having a new car physics with let's say 1976 F1's
would be enough.  With all the quality tracks we have, we wouldn't want
anything more.  So you have Grand Prix, Advanced Trainee and Trainee, and
now you would have hmm "76 Grand Prix" let's say ;-)   No need for
licensing, just create a basic vintage open-wheel car from the 70's for the
physics. Create 5-6 small variants and give it to us.  We'll create our own
3do's from that.

That wouldn't be much, just a gift to all from Papyrus for it's 15th year
anniversary ;)

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