rec.autos.simulators

by **Andre Warrin** » Thu, 12 Apr 2001 16:56:33

On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 22:19:43 +0100, fluffypony

>I think if we see cars from like 1975 or something... or at least be
>able to drive cars like the 6 wheeled Tyrrell... drivers like James Hunt
>and young Niki Lauda.. that sort of thing...

>some of the tracks would still be there (Nurburgring) and such.. Brands
>Hatch.. more tracks in a year! maybe a full version of Monza including
>the banking...

>I don't think much needs improving over the old GPL.. it's an awesome
>game.. I guess an improvement on the engine would be nice.. and the
>faces.. well no comment... at least I think it'd be the start of the
>"Fire proof Overalls" and "Full Face Helmet" Era... anyway.. just a few
>ideas...

Fluffy, bookmark this site http://www.racesimcentral.net/
and visit all the GPL graphic addon sites.
Visit 'Bruce's stuff' for much-improved faces, new suites, and all
kinds of other great updates. (especially his just released Lotus is
outstanding). Also visit the GPLEA site, JB Vikings site, GPL Addons
site..
with all these updates, you won't reckognize GPL again. Now if someone
would be able to make rain in GPL, we -have- our GPL2.. :)

Andre

> <fluffypony>

>> Hi,

>> In my opion, GPL is the best racing sim ever !

>> I think it's very difficult to improve GPL, but
>> what are your wishes for GPL 2 ?

by **Andre Warrin** » Thu, 12 Apr 2001 17:01:22

On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 22:02:57 -0400, "Randy Cassidy"

>Yes indeed, you are quite wrong :-) _The_ two main engineers that developed
>GPL are Dave Kaemmer and myself (Randy Cassidy), and we are both still here
>at Papyrus.

>Randy

-phew- :)

Andre

>> I would love to see another to Jan V But! yes there is a but below you
>> state:"but I'm sure the programming team would like to do another one"
>> The original programmers for GPL { I may be wrong but I know most
>> who were the original programmers } are long gone.. Actually the two
>> main developers now have their own Co. called "Wolf" something?

by **Tony Whitle** » Thu, 12 Apr 2001 17:20:15

Well, not unless you're a gambler, then it would make perfect sense ;-)

--
Tony Whitley
GPLRank +8.59
"On some laps I'd get as many as fif*** corners really right, but Moss, he
gets them all right on every lap" - Von Trips after the 1961 German Grand
Prix.

by **Randy Cassid** » Thu, 12 Apr 2001 23:44:58

Adam Levesque (designer/producer/GM) and John Wheeler (engineer) formed Blue
Fang Games.

Randy

by **Ruud van Ga** » Fri, 13 Apr 2001 02:28:58

>There is one feature I miss, the ghost car mode.
>It's not realistic, but I think it would be a big advantage to
>learning the tracks, and could flatten the learning curve. And
>make the ghost car start half a second in front, so you're following
>it, instead of driving inside it.

Nice option, that goes into my tasklist. :)
And not to forget starting in front of the ghost car, in case you're
using a ghost lap from Greger Huttu. ;-) By a couple of minutes on the
Ring, hehe.

Ruud van Gaal, GPL Rank +53.25
Pencil art : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/
Free car sim : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/racer/

by **Juha Kallioin** » Fri, 13 Apr 2001 04:44:52

>Yes indeed, you are quite wrong :-) _The_ two main engineers that developed
>GPL are Dave Kaemmer and myself (Randy Cassidy), and we are both still here
>at Papyrus.

Whoah! This is what I want to see.. Randy Cassidy in a 'GPL 2' thread :-)
If only the content went along the lines 'Yep, it's going gold next
week', I'd be real happy :-)

-Juha
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by **Thom j** » Fri, 13 Apr 2001 05:03:21

Re: 2 Randy
They are the 2 Randy!! Dag I just couldnt remember their names nor the
new company. Please let me make it clear that I wasnt trying to demean,
offend or lower your Gpl status! {Top dog of GPL <g>} I was told that
many of the originals had left.. No more, No less. So I hope you except
my stupidity as just that, "Stupid!!" <g>
Cheers By A Humbled Thom_j.

| Adam Levesque (designer/producer/GM) and John Wheeler (engineer) formed
Blue
| Fang Games.
| Randy
|

| > As I said I maybe wrong Randy but I did remember you as one but
| > wasn't there 2 others who were there from the start who started up
| > their own Co. in New England named "Wolf" something? I'm sorry
| > but I've 'forgotten' the complete name but I'm almost sure that sent
| > me info right after they left from Papy..yes-no?
| > Thom_j.

by **Mika Takal** » Fri, 13 Apr 2001 06:25:44

It indeed is interesting to see a Papy person in a GPL2 thread.... I wonder
if the "high downforce test" Dave Kaemmer mentioned in a High Gear interview
(a year ago?) has gone further than just a test :)

Oh well, I'm only daydreaming.....

--
Mika Takala

Please remove the invalid parts from my email address if replying by email.

by **Ashley McConnel** » Fri, 13 Apr 2001 18:43:02

Problem is, you WOULD crash and he would whizz past you - you would see him
for 0.01 seconds and then he would be gone again, never to be seen :)

Seems a waste of processing power in Gregers Case - but for mortals racing
against a ghost of themselves its a great option

Ash

|
| Nice option, that goes into my tasklist. :)
| And not to forget starting in front of the ghost car, in case you're
| using a ghost lap from Greger Huttu. ;-) By a couple of minutes on the
| Ring, hehe.
|
|
| Ruud van Gaal, GPL Rank +53.25
| Pencil art : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/
| Free car sim : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/racer/

by **Mark Aisthorp** » Sat, 14 Apr 2001 04:49:00

<SNIP>

</SNIP>

Hear hear,

I agree 100%, come on papy please at least make an
add on carset, any thing, any class, I dont care I just want
something new to drive.

Mark

by **Asbj?rn Bj?rnst** » Wed, 18 Apr 2001 10:01:51

> >There is one feature I miss, the ghost car mode.
> >It's not realistic, but I think it would be a big advantage to
> >learning the tracks, and could flatten the learning curve. And
> >make the ghost car start half a second in front, so you're following
> >it, instead of driving inside it.

> Nice option, that goes into my tasklist. :)
> And not to forget starting in front of the ghost car, in case you're
> using a ghost lap from Greger Huttu. ;-) By a couple of minutes on the
> Ring, hehe.

No problem, just add a control to "pull" the ghost back which the
player can assign to a button on his controller. That way you can
see the ghosts driveing line through all the turns by pulling it back
just before each turn.
--
-asbjxrn Consultant, n.:
An ordinary man a long way from home.

by **Marc Fraio** » Thu, 19 Apr 2001 02:01:02

Ok, nice ideas so far, maybe they'll be in WSC. But all I really want
from papy these days is a couple simple fixes to improve the overall
GPL experience. Yes, I just want another small patch.

1) An official, factory-supported "more cars" patch. IOW, allow us to
see more cars ahead and behind than the current 4 & 1. Maybe they could
just change it to 6 & 3, or maybe they could make it adjustable so people
with different bandwidth could tune their client to suit their needs, and
the server would feed them whatever they asked for, up to some limit that
the server owner could set. I understand they've increased these for N4,
so they have the technology. Please papy, throw us GPL loyalists a bone!

2) Fix the flags. I'm tired of getting blue flags in practice with
nobody behind me, then not getting any flag during the race when I'm
about to be lapped. This would help a lot.

Others? I think those two shouldn't be so hard, and would improve the
online experience immensely for me.

Marc

by **Art McEwe** » Thu, 19 Apr 2001 02:35:04

Server based grid order, so the league admin. can set starting order. Would
allow for red flag re-starts, prequalifying, reversed grids etc..

Use the existing carNumber parm in the player.ini to help me figure out
who's who in a league race. Maybe even put the number on the rear of the
gearbox like IRL does so we can tell who we're following (OK purists won't
like that but there are more visual queues in real racing then sim).

Convex mirrors to make up for lack of peripheral vision, (safer then looking
left/right)

by **Sympatico New** » Fri, 20 Apr 2001 00:49:31

I would like to see some kind of skill-testing question to get
into a VROC race. Also, anyone who qualified outside the 107%
should be automatically kicked. Further, I think that there
should be a rev limiter at the start of VROC races which
gradually goes away by the end of lap one. Also, nobody should be
allowed to quit a VROC race - once the green drops you either
keep racing or you have to spectate from the pits (or cold boot
your machine). Finally, the game should have a 'rate of closure'
sensor: anyone on a collision course with another driver with
greater than a 20 KPH speed differential should be kicked.

And one more thing. Anyone kicked from a VROC race for committing
any of these blunders should be automatically sent to a special
VROC chatroom called 'Inconsiderate *** Purgatory for
No-Skill Chumps'.

That's for starters..
Simon

by **Jan Verschuere** » Fri, 20 Apr 2001 01:59:38

Classifying slower drivers as "inconsiderate ***s" is pretty
inconsiderate in itself...

If you think you're too good to race with the plebs, join the SRM or
something.

Jan.
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