They released a couple of movies quite some time ago.
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They released a couple of movies quite some time ago.
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eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format
http://www.racesimcentral.net/~nos146/ef4_keys.zip
Martijn.
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Yeah, i've seen the game running, tried it myself. Its great!!!
Even when there were some things in the way of getting the absolute max out
of the car (such as the crappy carsetup that was programmed, and the err...
challenging engine characteristic that makes a BRM feel like an
electromotor) you could definately feel the car bouncing around and doing
the stuff you expect. The connection to the road was excellent, (unlike with
GP3, MGPRS, F12000 or F1RC), correcting turn-in or turn-out oversteer was
natural. The clutch felt very realistic also, i could nearly smell the
burning (hey.. it was a rental car, so...) You have to use the clutch in
order to save the engine from dying, when you spin.
To be honest, i didnt really saw the graphics while driving, i was too busy
keeping the wheels on the black stuff. WSC is hard, when driven on the
limit. The car was so much more responsive than GPL, due to the much stiffer
suspension.
ah i am rambling...
my only point was, WSC exists.
Martijn.
>> Time for West Bros. to put up or shut up.
>No. Time for them to get just get on with their work. Good things take a
>long time (apart from sex, which gets it's name from being an
>abbreviations for seconds).
>I'd be happy to hear and see *nothing* about WSC for five more years if
>that's what it takes.
You claim you'd be willing to wait 5 years if that's what it takes,
but in 2006, would you be happy purchasing WSC as a "new" product if
the graphics were only up to 2001 graphics standards? I assume there
will be plenty of advances in the area of graphics alone in the course
of 5 years -- by then, 1024x768 screen resolutions may look like SVGA,
compared to what's coming in the future. And if the West brothers
keep developing every aspect of WSC as technology evolves, then we'll
be waiting far longer than 5 years for WSC.
Speaking of GPL, given the recent problems that GPL has experienced on
1.5 GHz machines, look at where we'd be if it had taken Papy 5 years
to release GPL. If that had occurred, then GPL might have included
dynamic weather, but it wouldn't have arrived until next year, and by
that point in time, it looks like it might have been unplayable on a
lot of modern systems. Or the release date might have been delayed
another few months beyond that while the game code was revised YET
AGAIN so that it could be compatible with current systems upon
release. Frankly, I'm glad we got it when we did.
I don't believe the West brothers are going to make us wait 5 years,
and I don't think WSC is vapor-ware, but I think there are other
things ALREADY waiting in the wings that are going to give WSC a run
for the money as the contender for the GPL sim crown (Rally Trophy and
F1 2001, to name two).
WSC is going to be good, but if the West brothers pass the window of
opportunity for the release date, then they're running the risk of
becoming the next GP3 or Daikatana.
Just my $0.02.
-- JB
<snip>
Possibly. NOt me, though - as soon as the engine started, it was a
must-have game. It's cost a fortune over the years, but... who cares?
:-DDD
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"After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll,
really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh.
> I think he has a valid point. We've seen screenshots for ages, how about a
> few movies? I have worked in software development myself and yes, users who
> demand immediate release and then slam imperfect software leave a lot to be
> desired. However, developers who don't release anything more than
> screenshots (I'm thinking 3D Realms and Valve in particular) run the risk
> of having credability issues. I can't see how having the odd written
> preview or avi out there would hurt the sales of the West brothers but at
> the end of the day it's their call. However they run the risk of people
> questioning how good the software is.
....and if you and Tedinbed had bothered to ask.....i think i'm just
going to have to stop talking to you in mi
> |
> | John? Why are you beating around the bush? Don't be evasive..
> | Please tell us what your real feelings are about this!! <BFG>
> |
> | | Ladies and gentlemen, I give you a perfect example of a thoughtless
> | | ***. If the West Brothers gave in to his demand to "put up or shut
> | | up", this is the same *** that will be the first one to scream about
> | | bugs that he finds. This is *precisely* the kind of users we software
> | | developers *do not want*, and this type of user is one of the primary
> | | reasons why the software industry is in its current state. They want
> | | their software *now*, they want it *prefect* right out of the gate, and
> | | they want it for *free*.
> | | I know the West Brothers (and other sim programmers) can't say this so I
> | | will...
> | | You can kiss my rosey redneck sphincter, redTed. Get a freakin clue.
> |
> |
> |
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> >> Time for West Bros. to put up or shut up.
> >> We were seeing gorgeous screenshots of this mythical game nearly two
> >> years ago. Has anyone actually seen this game running ? Just a brief
> >> glimpse, maybe ? There are loads of screenshots available
> >> http://www.racesimcentral.net/, but I just get
> >> the feeling this game is too good to be true.
> >> Lets see a rolling preview at least, just to ease my fevered mind !
> >Ladies and gentlemen, I give you a perfect example of a thoughtless
> >***. If the West Brothers gave in to his demand to "put up or shut
> >up", this is the same *** that will be the first one to scream about
> >bugs that he finds. This is *precisely* the kind of users we software
> >developers *do not want*, and this type of user is one of the primary
> >reasons why the software industry is in its current state. They want
> >their software *now*, they want it *prefect* right out of the gate, and
> >they want it for *free*.
> >I know the West Brothers (and other sim programmers) can't say this so I
> >will...
> >You can kiss my rosey redneck sphincter, redTed. Get a freakin clue.
> ***.
> I think he has a valid point. We've seen screenshots for ages, how about a
> few movies? I have worked in software development myself and yes, users who
> demand immediate release and then slam imperfect software leave a lot to be
> desired. However, developers who don't release anything more than
> screenshots (I'm thinking 3D Realms and Valve in particular) run the risk
> of having credability issues. I can't see how having the odd written
> preview or avi out there would hurt the sales of the West brothers but at
> the end of the day it's their call. However they run the risk of people
> questioning how good the software is.
> I can think of at least two games that were supposedly under construction
> that were nothing more than a bunch of 3d model renderings based on engine
> predictions (and no I'm not saying WSC is that). That they were never
> released in the end is a good thing, because, by all accounts, they sucked.
> If you weren't such an ignorant lackwit you'd have read the post correctly
> and understood that he wasn't asking for the game, just something more
> tangible than screenshots.
> M
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And you are precisely the kind of ignorant, abusive, Yankee stereotype that
we have all come to despise so much over here in Britain.
My original post was genuine and well meaning. Contrary to what some of you
believe, it was not intended as an insult to the people creating the game at
all.. Sometimes it is easy to be mis-understood when sending typed messages,
but thankfully you DO NOT speak on behalf of the West Bros., because I have
had a response regarding this post from them.
I will not quote their exact words, but I have had my "fevered mind" eased.
So there !
P.S "*prefect* right out of the gate, and
Gerry
">
I don't like abusive mail, of any kind. Is that ok with you ?
Guess I'll have to fire up my copy of Braveheart again....
dave henrie
> > And you are precisely the kind of ignorant, abusive, Yankee stereotype
> that
> > we have all come to despise so much over here in Britain.
> Guess I'll have to fire up my copy of Braveheart again....
> dave henrie
"funny"