Just sit back and take what you get, when you get it, and be thankful that
you didn't have to put in the time and effort to create it, or make it
yourself and let us know when it's done.
Just sit back and take what you get, when you get it, and be thankful that
you didn't have to put in the time and effort to create it, or make it
yourself and let us know when it's done.
Jesse Black
> Time for West Bros. to put up or shut up.
> We were seeing gorgeous screenshots of this mythical game nearly two years
> ago. Has anyone actually seen this game running ? Just a brief glimpse,
> maybe ? There are loads of screenshots available
> http://www.racesimcentral.net/, but I just get the
> feeling this game is too good to be true.
> Lets see a rolling preview at least, just to ease my fevered mind !
> --
> ICQ# 104825454
> > Time for West Bros. to put up or shut up.
> No. Time for them to get just get on with their work. Good things take a
> long time (apart from sex, which gets it's name from being an
> abbreviations for seconds).
> I'd be happy to hear and see *nothing* about WSC for five more years if
> that's what it takes.
> It occurs to me -- being involved in recent discussion about paying for
> GPL patches -- that I'd even invest a $ or two a month to subsidise the
> Wests' development work if they got dumped for taking too long. It
> wouldn't take too many gamblers like me to finance a small team....
> assuming that team doesn't have a taste for caviar, champagne and
> showgirls (though they can borrow my copy of the video if they want,
> it's only worn in a couple of places).
> Andrew McP
nobody seams to see another point which is pretty clear to me after reading all the interviews and other sources of info about the
so called West bro's. They started the project to have 'a sim for life', that means they won't make just a gpl ( which doesnt have
sequels ), wsc will have 2.0 , 3.0 etc in my opinion. 1) Because the demand extra features of the buyers will be great (as allways)
2) If wsc becomes a flagship product, they will keep on improving it - to keep pace with hardware devolpments 3) After 1.0 is
released they will *interact* with US. Just look on www.west-racing.com to see that they intend to have *official* forums in which
they likelly answer questions. Did you see Papy do that??
I think the future is bright at Q4 2001
Leroy
Mmm... hope they like chinese food ;-)
But hopefully they'll be enjoying fish&chips for a long time to come...
maybe off gold plates if WSC does well :->
Andrew McP
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you a perfect example of a thoughtless
***. If the West Brothers gave in to his demand to "put up or shut
up", this is the same *** that will be the first one to scream about
bugs that he finds. This is *precisely* the kind of users we software
developers *do not want*, and this type of user is one of the primary
reasons why the software industry is in its current state. They want
their software *now*, they want it *prefect* right out of the gate, and
they want it for *free*.
I know the West Brothers (and other sim programmers) can't say this so I
will...
You can kiss my rosey redneck sphincter, redTed. Get a freakin clue.
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John? Why are you beating around the bush? Don't be evasive..
Please tell us what your real feelings are about this!! <BFG>
| Ladies and gentlemen, I give you a perfect example of a thoughtless
| ***. If the West Brothers gave in to his demand to "put up or shut
| up", this is the same *** that will be the first one to scream about
| bugs that he finds. This is *precisely* the kind of users we software
| developers *do not want*, and this type of user is one of the primary
| reasons why the software industry is in its current state. They want
| their software *now*, they want it *prefect* right out of the gate, and
| they want it for *free*.
| I know the West Brothers (and other sim programmers) can't say this so I
| will...
| You can kiss my rosey redneck sphincter, redTed. Get a freakin clue.
|
| John? Why are you beating around the bush? Don't be evasive..
| Please tell us what your real feelings are about this!! <BFG>
|
| | Ladies and gentlemen, I give you a perfect example of a thoughtless
| | ***. If the West Brothers gave in to his demand to "put up or shut
| | up", this is the same *** that will be the first one to scream about
| | bugs that he finds. This is *precisely* the kind of users we software
| | developers *do not want*, and this type of user is one of the primary
| | reasons why the software industry is in its current state. They want
| | their software *now*, they want it *prefect* right out of the gate, and
| | they want it for *free*.
| | I know the West Brothers (and other sim programmers) can't say this so I
| | will...
| | You can kiss my rosey redneck sphincter, redTed. Get a freakin clue.
|
|
|
Eric
> I don't think they'd produce all those screenshots in 3d studio or something
> just for a laugh.? They clearly are working on a real game, and judging by
> the quality of the screenshots, when they do finish, someone will definitely
> want to publish it (no reason to imagine that wouldn't be Empire).
> It's *not* time for them to put up or shut up, it's time for them to carry
> on working on the game until it's finished.? They can't release it until
> it's done.? I think we've all had enough of publishers throwing out
> unfinished games.? Papy took 2 years on GPL with a much bigger team, so if
> it takes another year or more for WSC then that's fair enough.
> Stick GPL on, and start getting impatient about WSC the middle of next year.
> :)
> > Time for West Bros. to put up or shut up.
> > We were seeing gorgeous screenshots of this mythical game nearly two years
> > ago. Has anyone actually seen this game running ? Just a brief glimpse,
> > maybe ? There are loads of screenshots available
> > http://www.sportplanet.com/hg/games/screenshots/wsc/ , but I just get the
> > feeling this game is too good to be true.
> > Lets see a rolling preview at least, just to ease my fevered mind !
> > --
> > ICQ# 104825454
Eric
?
> > Time for West Bros. to put up or shut up.
> No. Time for them to get just get on with their work. Good things take a
> long time (apart from sex, which gets it's name from being an
> abbreviations for seconds).
> I'd be happy to hear and see *nothing* about WSC for five more years if
> that's what it takes.
> It occurs to me -- being involved in recent discussion about paying for
> GPL patches -- that I'd even invest a $ or two a month to subsidise the
> Wests' development work if they got dumped for taking too long. It
> wouldn't take too many gamblers like me to finance a small team....
> assuming that team doesn't have a taste for caviar, champagne and
> showgirls (though they can borrow my copy of the video if they want,
> it's only worn in a couple of places).
> Andrew McP
Ash (about 5 years away from a decent sim)
|
|
| >
| > > Time for West Bros. to put up or shut up.
| >
| > No. Time for them to get just get on with their work. Good things take a
| > long time (apart from sex, which gets it's name from being an
| > abbreviations for seconds).
| >
| > I'd be happy to hear and see *nothing* about WSC for five more years if
| > that's what it takes.
| >
| > It occurs to me -- being involved in recent discussion about paying for
| > GPL patches -- that I'd even invest a $ or two a month to subsidise the
| > Wests' development work if they got dumped for taking too long. It
| > wouldn't take too many gamblers like me to finance a small team....
| > assuming that team doesn't have a taste for caviar, champagne and
| > showgirls (though they can borrow my copy of the video if they want,
| > it's only worn in a couple of places).
| >
| > Andrew McP
|
After the build-up and let-down we all experienced with Trans Am
Racing: 1967 - 1972 a few years ago, I can understand why some people
may be getting a bit nervous about WSC.
Still, as the man said, patience will tell, one way or the other.
-- JB
> You can kiss my rosey redneck sphincter, redTed. Get a freakin clue.
Best
Gerry
>Ladies and gentlemen, I give you a perfect example of a thoughtless
>***. If the West Brothers gave in to his demand to "put up or shut
>up", this is the same *** that will be the first one to scream about
>bugs that he finds. This is *precisely* the kind of users we software
>developers *do not want*, and this type of user is one of the primary
>reasons why the software industry is in its current state. They want
>their software *now*, they want it *prefect* right out of the gate, and
>they want it for *free*.
>I know the West Brothers (and other sim programmers) can't say this so I
>will...
>You can kiss my rosey redneck sphincter, redTed. Get a freakin clue.
I think he has a valid point. We've seen screenshots for ages, how about a
few movies? I have worked in software development myself and yes, users who
demand immediate release and then slam imperfect software leave a lot to be
desired. However, developers who don't release anything more than
screenshots (I'm thinking 3D Realms and Valve in particular) run the risk
of having credability issues. I can't see how having the odd written
preview or avi out there would hurt the sales of the West brothers but at
the end of the day it's their call. However they run the risk of people
questioning how good the software is.
I can think of at least two games that were supposedly under construction
that were nothing more than a bunch of 3d model renderings based on engine
predictions (and no I'm not saying WSC is that). That they were never
released in the end is a good thing, because, by all accounts, they sucked.
If you weren't such an ignorant lackwit you'd have read the post correctly
and understood that he wasn't asking for the game, just something more
tangible than screenshots.
M