Cooper used to sing...I think the song was Department of Youth and he makes
some reference to Damon Runyon....didn't know who he was, but it sure stuck
in my head and blocked out Damon Skye.
:)
dave henrie(odd the way a memory works part-time)
Bastards!
-Larry
> >Snipped:
> >"With the full support of Sierra behind us and the creative insight of
this
> >talented studio, I have no doubt that the superior quality Papyrus fans
have
> >come to expect will definitely be translated into more spectacular racing
> >titles."
> >Sounds rather positive...
> You expected him to say "NASCAR is the only thing that has made a buck
> for us, and as soon as they turn out the last title we're going to
>***them."?
> Ask the guys that made SODA about Sierras full support and the
> promised 3Dfx patch.
> Tim
> > Finally, CART SIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> AussieV8's !!!!!
> AussieV8's !!!!!
> AussieV8's !!!!!
> AussieV8's !!!!!
> AussieV8's !!!!!
> Hah !!
> Beers and cheers
> (uncle) Goy
> http://www.theuspits.com
> "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
> --Groucho Marx--
Or did I miss something? Did they say that they are COMPLETELY getting out of racing sims?
db
> Here is my doom and gloom prediction for Papyrus. I don't like it, and
> I hope I'm wrong, but this is how I feel it'll play out.
> The corporate loyalty to Papyrus will end the day it fails to turn a
> profit, and they'll be gone.
> I think the next NASCAR release will be the last Papyrus racing sim.
> If Sierra even keeps the individuals, they're going to be absorbed
> back into Sierra and assigned to other projects. I actually think its
> more likely that they'll just be cut loose to go their own ways.
> There will be no GPL2, no CART sim, and no Rally sim. Unless the
> members of Papyrus decide to do a side project (which doesn't pay the
> bills), I think they'll be working on console titles. That's where the
> market is going.
> For anyone that is about to pound on me about multi-player, Sony and
> Microsoft are on the verge of launching multi-player services on their
> consoles. Sony has an adapter, and the XBox has an ethernet adapter
> built in. This will be the Second Coming of online ***, the one
> where all the dummies get involved. There will be millions of them,
> and they'll spend a lot of money. They won't want sims. They'll want
> sports games, beat-em-ups and action driving games like Grand Theft
> Auto.
> Please set me straight. :-(
> :-P
> > > Finally, CART SIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > AussieV8's !!!!!
> > AussieV8's !!!!!
> > AussieV8's !!!!!
> > AussieV8's !!!!!
> > AussieV8's !!!!!
> > Hah !!
> > Beers and cheers
> > (uncle) Goy
> > http://www.theuspits.com
> > "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
> > --Groucho Marx--
Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
http://www.theuspits.com
"A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
--Groucho Marx--
That's an interesting idea, TRAC cars will probably be pretty easy to
model, and I think most of the tracks (we know c***te) are already
mapped.
The "rights" for such might even be a split the costs and profits
deal which would work out for both sides.
With Hump helping in the series there is already a relationship with
Papyrus so ????
To those who want a CART sim I say slim to none considering that CART
has to pay to get a TV crew to show up and the ratings have not been
healthy. Plus next years lineup is still in flux 18, 22 cars 11 + 7
"helped:" to show up? engines? chassis?
Don't get me wrong I to would like to see a CART sim but with such a
flux who know.
ASA/ARCA I can see the possibility but the base is rather small (I
know we got GPL and SODA) so that would probably come down to buy rate
WOO/Sprint gets a little more coverage on RPM tonight so knowledge
base is wider.
IRL.. Depends on what T.G has in his mind (I think He licenced
somebody arleady) I think almost all the track are Nascar tracks so
that is done, the cars are real close to a single template so going to
IRL would have half the work done.
Marc
> > I think you missed a major point of this discussion, Tim.
> > We're talking about *after* NR2003.. They (Sierra/Papy) lose the right
> > to the NASCAR name after this last title. How will they updating it
> > then?
> > EA then has NASCAR and F1, which apparently has some restrictions
> > related to multi-player anyway.
> > Does Papyrus take a chance like they did with SODA or GPL trying
> > graft some new idea into the NASCAR engine?
> > I hope so, but I'm thinking not, because GPL and SODA didn't meet
> > expectations. Unless the pitch for something new is stellar, I'm
> > thinking the N4 engine is dead in the water.
> > My hope has been for a modern sports car sim, but it looks like LFS
> > might fill that niche perfectly. I hate to see it come to this, but
> > without NASCAR, Papyrus looks to be in bad shape.
> Well I'm no expert on having and obtaining Nascar rights, but shouldn't
papy
> just be able to fork over however much it costs for these rights like
> they've always done in the past? The rights have never been exclusive to
> just one company so I don't think that would be an issue. EA, Nascar
Heat,
> and Papy have had Nascar titles simultaneously so I don't think
exclusivity
> is relevant.
> -Tim
Marc
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> >Did they call it Duke Nukem Forever because that is how long it is going to
> >be before it is ready ? :-)
> Hmm...Racing Forever...? :-)
> Eldred