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by **Richard** » Thu, 04 Jul 2002 05:53:02

I hate to see you go buddy. I'll miss racing with ya. Part of the reason I
liked RASCAR was your participation.

Thanks for painting me a car and all the things you've done to help RASCAR.

I'm gonna miss ya buddy.

Catch you some other time, maybe an IGPS reunion race? ;-)

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by **Schoone** » Thu, 04 Jul 2002 06:01:30

It's a league. Why don't you think it's a league? Is a league not "a
grooup of people that race together because they want a clean race"?

> I thought so too. Watch the replay, make your own notes on the
> incidents, compare them with mine, and see what you come up with.

> RASCAR isn't a league. It's a grooup of people that race together
> because they want a clean race. To atain that goal, there needs to be
> some agreements that everyone has to follow. Beyond that, unless and
> until the group starts examining the root causes of the incidents,
> nothing will change, and there will continue to be incident-filled
> races. This means that they have to be able to admit when they***
> the pooch.

> Even with all of that, I really don't feel that I have to sit here and
> have my integrity and honesty questioned. I didn't post the recap in
> order to coddle people and make them feel good about themselves. At the
> same time, I didn't do it to be mean-spirited.

> No worries though. I won't be doing it again.

> > I thought the recap was a nice touch. I would have like to have seen it
> > combined with another "highlight reel", and perhaps some of the
reporting
> > was a bit too subjective, but people are always going to ***. Don't
leave
> > the league, just grow a thicker shell. I know I have only raced twice
with
> > RASCAR, and have made at least two "stupid moves"...ok...maybe 3... but
I
> > know I am mature enough to take it if someone called me on it...or
showed a
> > "highlight reel"... like when I looped all by myself in the last race I
> > attended....

> > That being said. There really should be rules for this league. I am all
in
> > favor of rules, less chance to *** when everything is on the table.
The
> > only rule I would hate would be having to make each race, but since that
is
> > kinda against the entire RASCAR idea, I won't worry about that one...

> > Brit
> > btgoss # 146 in RASCAR and GROWL...

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by **John Simmon** » Thu, 04 Jul 2002 06:00:45

I'm sure it'll crusie along fine without me.

NP.

There's always GPL. Now, if I could just figure out this vroc stuff
again...

On someone else's server maybe - I don't have the upload bandwidth
necessary to host a full field. :(

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by **Ed Solhei** » Thu, 04 Jul 2002 06:03:40

"John Simmons" said:

'Bye John.

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by **Jan Verschuere** » Thu, 04 Jul 2002 06:12:10

I hardly think anyone would appreciate it, but IMO you've got enough
experience to "tell it like it is", regardless of whether those involved
like it or not.

The fact those involved can post a riposte is an unfortunate side effect of
the medium, but, again: IMO, that shouldn't bother you if you take it upon
yourself to check the incidents. I'm sure the silent majority (how many on
the RASCAR roster to date?) take note of you pointing out the "correct"
response to situations.

Then don't feed it... let'm talk to walls for a bit. The novelty wears off
pretty quick. One doesn't have to be friends to be able to race eachother.

If people don't like the way things are run around here, I think it's them
who should walk out, not those who volunteer their time to put this show on
the road.

Your decision, but... darn!! -I had a score to settle with you! ;-))

Jan.
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by **Tony Rickar** » Thu, 04 Jul 2002 06:14:38

> It's a league. Why don't you think it's a league? Is a league not "a
> grooup of people that race together because they want a clean race"?

Depends on your definition. Sure the league of Nations is a group with
common interests. However, in sport leagues involves organised
competitions with points, limited roster, rules, organising bodies,
defined schedules (with a start and finish) and champions at the end of
the defined period.

Rascar is an informal group of people racing together more akin to a
club than a league.

by **Tony Rickar** » Thu, 04 Jul 2002 06:18:16

> I hate to see you go buddy. I'll miss racing with ya. Part of the
reason I
> liked RASCAR was your participation.

> Thanks for painting me a car and all the things you've done to help
RASCAR.

> I'm gonna miss ya buddy.

> Catch you some other time, maybe an IGPS reunion race? ;-)

I'd echo that ZZ.

We can vouch for John's capability at running leagues. No question of
shying away from the commitment or politics suggested elsewhere in this
thread.

Tony

by **Tony Rickar** » Thu, 04 Jul 2002 06:22:41

> There's always GPL. Now, if I could just figure out this vroc stuff
> again...

Slap the V5 back in, send out the invites & fire up the GPLEA Eagle :-)

Fancy a run with the IGPS guys (& girl - wherever she is) Eldred?

by **John Simmon** » Thu, 04 Jul 2002 06:23:59

Mitch, I responded via email (if the email in your header is correct).

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http://www.paddedwall.org/john
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If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown
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by **Bamada** » Thu, 04 Jul 2002 06:58:29

Same here John. I have chosen to stay quiet on the RASCAR incidents, a couple I
caused and a couple I've been on the receiving end. Hell it's just racing.
Sorry I missed Vegas so I could see the race for myself but one of the
attractions of RASCAR is "race convenience".
Dan

by **Mitch Alatorr** » Thu, 04 Jul 2002 07:24:08

Beyond all the moaning about the Vegas race it was really a good one for
RASCAR. After what we've been through to this point in RASCAR I'd say just
stick it out a bit longer cause things are getting better not worse. Online
racing breeds contempt by its own competitive nature, we must control it and
have fun.

by **The Other Larr** » Thu, 04 Jul 2002 08:35:44

Agreed. I see this as a disagreement between two, maybe three people.

There are a couple dozen of us that are getting along just fine :)

-Larry

> > Running a league is not easy but the big part is sticking with it when
it
> > gets it worst.
> > The biggest problem I have seen of RASCAR (from the outside looking in)
is
> > that you guys don't want to call it a league. Someone has a few rules
but
> > no one officially stands by them and as such it is going to get out of
> hand.

> How has it gotten out of hand?

> David G Fisher

by **drin** » Thu, 04 Jul 2002 05:45:21

jesus you are acting like a little girl

by **elrik** » Thu, 04 Jul 2002 12:59:27

That goes for me also. I'll always have that old 99 car to thank you for.

Elrikk

by **Graeme Na** » Thu, 04 Jul 2002 17:34:57

And if you do, could you hold off until after the 11th 'cos I'm on
holiday and I would kinda like to be in that race :-)

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