rec.autos.simulators

> > I too am now considering getting a FF Wheel and would like
> > to know if I can get one for under $100.  Also are there any
> > with pedals that are "usable"?  The pedals with my Nascar Sprint
> > were definitely not, so I use the flappers on the wheel. Also, can you
> > brake quickly enough with pedals? When I tried the pedals with my
> > Sprint, it was hard to be quick enough going from gas to brake.
> > Especially when you need to make those quick "relflex" brakes.

> Ahem... Why not try left foot=break, right foot=gas?

> Anyway, I've only owned and used one FF setup and that's my current MS
> Sidewinder FF Wheel. Very nice pedals. Can't comment on other brands.

> /petern

>> I too am now considering getting a FF Wheel and would like
>> to know if I can get one for under $100.  Also are there any
>> with pedals that are "usable"?  The pedals with my Nascar Sprint
>> were definitely not, so I use the flappers on the wheel. Also, can you
>> brake quickly enough with pedals? When I tried the pedals with my
>> Sprint, it was hard to be quick enough going from gas to brake.
>> Especially when you need to make those quick "relflex" brakes.

>Ahem... Why not try left foot=break, right foot=gas?

>Anyway, I've only owned and used one FF setup and that's my current MS
>Sidewinder FF Wheel. Very nice pedals. Can't comment on other brands.

>/petern

> Oh yeah, just remembered another thing. The MS SW FF Wheel is gear
> driven, which is said to give a notchy or grinding feel when you pull
> the wheel. This has never bothered me before (GPL, TOCA 1 & 2, CMR,
> Viper, SCGT, Powerslide) but with N3 you tend to "pull the wheel left
> for extended periods of time", if you know what I mean     :-) And now
> this slight grinding feeling has started to bother me.

> So now I cast my greedy eyes at a Logitech SW FF we have at work. I
> think I'll have to borrow it and give it a try.

> /petern

> I just picked up the Saitek R4 FF at compusa they have discounted from
$180
> to $120 so far I like everything about it. It is very accurate and the
pedal
> base is nice and wide. I have heard some complaints online about the
action
> of the pedals but I think they are great. You can adjust the tension on
both
> pedals. I have used the force feedback in GPL and nascar3 and they both
work
> very well. Since I have never had a FF wheel before I can't compare it to
> anything else. The wheel does seem very well built though. The way it
> attaches to your desk also is very nice.

> I have a Grand Prix Thrustmaster (Paddles Only) that I upgraded from. It
> will take some getting used to not wanting to grab for the paddles the FF
> has them also. Just remember gas with the right foot, brake with the left
> foot. I keep forgetting!

> Just my 2 cents

> Craig

> > > I too am now considering getting a FF Wheel and would like
> > > to know if I can get one for under $100.  Also are there any
> > > with pedals that are "usable"?  The pedals with my Nascar Sprint
> > > were definitely not, so I use the flappers on the wheel. Also, can you
> > > brake quickly enough with pedals? When I tried the pedals with my
> > > Sprint, it was hard to be quick enough going from gas to brake.
> > > Especially when you need to make those quick "relflex" brakes.

> > Ahem... Why not try left foot=break, right foot=gas?

> > Anyway, I've only owned and used one FF setup and that's my current MS
> > Sidewinder FF Wheel. Very nice pedals. Can't comment on other brands.

> > /petern

> You won't want to give the Logitech back!

> > Oh yeah, just remembered another thing. The MS SW FF Wheel is gear
> > driven, which is said to give a notchy or grinding feel when you pull
> > the wheel. This has never bothered me before (GPL, TOCA 1 & 2, CMR,
> > Viper, SCGT, Powerslide) but with N3 you tend to "pull the wheel left
> > for extended periods of time", if you know what I mean     :-) And now
> > this slight grinding feeling has started to bother me.

> > So now I cast my greedy eyes at a Logitech SW FF we have at work. I
> > think I'll have to borrow it and give it a try.

> > /petern

>Yeah, but the pedals :(

>-Larry

>> You won't want to give the Logitech back!

>> > Oh yeah, just remembered another thing. The MS SW FF Wheel is gear
>> > driven, which is said to give a notchy or grinding feel when you pull
>> > the wheel. This has never bothered me before (GPL, TOCA 1 & 2, CMR,
>> > Viper, SCGT, Powerslide) but with N3 you tend to "pull the wheel left
>> > for extended periods of time", if you know what I mean     :-) And now
>> > this slight grinding feeling has started to bother me.

>> > So now I cast my greedy eyes at a Logitech SW FF we have at work. I
>> > think I'll have to borrow it and give it a try.

>> > /petern