rec.autos.simulators

> >Especially if old familiar bugs are discovered you can assume that what
> >causes these bugs has not been changed. A good example is the teleport bug
> >which is in ICR1.x, NCR1.21, and finally in ICR2. If that bug is to be
> >found in NCR2 too, you can bet your mother's pacemaker that the actual
> >game engine still has some pretty old and corrupt code in it.

> I've spent considerable time trying to track down the teleport bug.  It's
> not trivial to locate, because it occurs at a frequency of perhaps once in
> 5000 laps and only on a few specific tracks, and there are several areas in
> the code which might harbor the bug.

> If anyone has a replay with the "teleport" bug, I'd appreciate your sending
> a 20 second snippet including about 10 seconds prior to the teleport to me;
> this might assist in identifying where in the code we should be looking for
> the problem.  My apologies in advance that, if we should be so lucky as to
> locate this one, there won't be a patch available to ICR1.x or NCR 1.x with
> the fix... however, you can rest assured that it will migrate into any
> future releases.

> Charlie Heath
> Papyrus Design Group

> >Especially if old familiar bugs are discovered you can assume that what
> >causes these bugs has not been changed. A good example is the teleport bug
> >which is in ICR1.x, NCR1.21, and finally in ICR2. If that bug is to be
> >found in NCR2 too, you can bet your mother's pacemaker that the actual
> >game engine still has some pretty old and corrupt code in it.

> I've spent considerable time trying to track down the teleport bug.  It's
> not trivial to locate, because it occurs at a frequency of perhaps once in
> 5000 laps and only on a few specific tracks, and there are several areas in
> the code which might harbor the bug.

> If anyone has a replay with the "teleport" bug, I'd appreciate your sending
> a 20 second snippet including about 10 seconds prior to the teleport to me;
> this might assist in identifying where in the code we should be looking for
> the problem.  My apologies in advance that, if we should be so lucky as to
> locate this one, there won't be a patch available to ICR1.x or NCR 1.x with
> the fix... however, you can rest assured that it will migrate into any
> future releases.

> Charlie Heath
> Papyrus Design GroupCharlie;  Is this the bug that produces random crashes.  The screen then

> >Charlie, for what it's worth, I wonder if the teleport bug is a hardware
> >induced thing.  I've run a *lot* more than 5000 laps in ICR and ICR2, and have
> >never seen it. Some people have had it occur several times.

> Possible, but I doubt it.

> I think it's a combination of circumstances that contrive to cause the
> teleport bug. But, look on the bright side, it does give us some good
> pictures for "Sim Racing News"!!

>I've spent considerable time trying to track down the teleport bug.  It's
>not trivial to locate, because it occurs at a frequency of perhaps once in
>5000 laps and only on a few specific tracks, and there are several areas in
>the code which might harbor the bug.
>If anyone has a replay with the "teleport" bug, I'd appreciate your sending
>a 20 second snippet including about 10 seconds prior to the teleport to me;
>this might assist in identifying where in the code we should be looking for
>the problem.  My apologies in advance that, if we should be so lucky as to
>locate this one, there won't be a patch available to ICR1.x or NCR 1.x with
>the fix... however, you can rest assured that it will migrate into any
>future releases.
>Charlie Heath
>Papyrus Design Group

>> >Charlie, for what it's worth, I wonder if the teleport bug is a hardware
>> >induced thing.  I've run a *lot* more than 5000 laps in ICR and ICR2, and have
>> >never seen it. Some people have had it occur several times.

>> Possible, but I doubt it.

>> I think it's a combination of circumstances that contrive to cause the
>> teleport bug. But, look on the bright side, it does give us some good
>> pictures for "Sim Racing News"!!
>Has Terje come down to earth yet?  :)
>The new issue of the Sim Racing News is *GREAT*, I must say!  After
>reading Josh's Portland track guide, I shaved nearly 5 (!) seconds off
>my best time there.  And the Adam Levesque interview was great too.
>Fabulous work...keep it up!

>Neil
>--

>       Neil Yeatman, Ajax, Ontario, CANADA

>>>Any improvements are welcome, of course. But one shouldn't need
>>>to buy a product a second time only to get spotters, a proper race
>>>weekend, revamped interface, and some occasional audio messages.
>>>And lest not forget IPX support. It sounds like a patch job.

>>I don't follow you here. From what I've heard so far, this will be a
>>dramatic improvement over the previous version. There was a quote from
>>someone that something like 70% of the code is new. You think they
>should
>>give it away?

>>Dave "davids" Sparks
>>Sequoia Motorsports

>Of course! These whiners think because they buy a product once, Papyrus
>should give them updates forever.

>But I am very glad NCR 2 is in the works. I look forward to buying it. But I
>am a fan. To the general gamer NCR 2 will look pretty much like NCR 1.21.
>But there are probably enough of us crazed racing sim users to make it all
>worthwhile for Papyrus releasing NCR 2, especially with Hawaii up and running.

>writes:

>>The new issue of the Sim Racing News is *GREAT*, I must say!
[snip]
>>Fabulous work...keep it up!

>Ok, I missed it.  Where do you find the issue?