Shrug. Guess we'll agree to disagree on just about every point then :)
No big deal.
> John....
> Dale Earnhardt lost his life doing just the opposite......and I'm pretty
> sure that would be a "world opinion"......not just mine. Dale may have
been
> an aggressive driver in his early years....but he learned from his
mistakes
> on the track and became a great driver because he made good decisions in
the
> race car....and his record proves that he did. He didn't win all those
> races by deliberately choosing "no percentage" moves during any race.
> Of course had Jr. gotten "help" that would have at least made his attempt
a
> reasonable one. But, I doubt there's a NASCAR fan on this planet....or
> anyone in racing.....that would have thought Rusty would move out of the
low
> line to help him. How come Jr. thought he would?
> "Not quite sure what the big deal is; this kind of move/results happen
every
> plate race, every year."
> I disagree with you......that kind of stupid move doesn't happen with
> somebody as good as Jr. is on the SS....and with the *** DEI has
> displayed on the SS over the last two years......and a DEI stablemate in
the
> lead......Jr. making such a rookie decision....makes it a big deal.
> "His chief told him to go for the win; he didn't tell him how to do it."
> My point exactly.
> TP
> > > Guys...I'm not analyzing anything too much........and I'm not saying
> that
> > > Dale shouldn't have at least "tried" for a win. But choosing a move
> that
> > > had zero percentage of success.....isn't smart....isn't what a racer
> > should
> > > do. It was stupid...and I didn't expect Dale to be stupid in those
> kinds
> > of
> > > situations. That is what perplexes me. Not the fact that he wanted
to
> > win
> > > or wanted to try some opportunity if it presented itself. There was
no
> > > "opportunity" to win.....at the time he tried Michael on the high
side.
> > > And, I think he knows that and that's why he didn't seem very happy
with
> > > himself at the post race.
> > > His crew chief was not sitting in the car with Dale. Its likely he
> didn't
> > > even know the situation except as it appeared the last time the group
> > passed
> > > the pit lane. And when did it ever be such that the crew chief makes
> the
> > > definitive call on the move a driver makes on the track? And, this
was
> > not
> > > a "no points, run for the money shoot out." It was a season points
> > > race....not a 20-lap pickup race! And, in all the years I've been
> > following
> > > racing....or racing myself......I've never seen a "win at all costs"
> > driver
> > > have any long term success in racing. Can anyone? C'mon guys!
> > > TP
> > Oh, I don't know; Dale Earnhardt was a "win at all costs" driver, and
he
> > did alright :) Fwiw, if Jr. had had help, he had a very good
opportunity
> of
> > winning on the outside IMO.
> > Bet he would have blown right by Waltrip, with help. But that's not
> what
> > happened. Not quite sure what the big deal is; this kind of
move/results
> > happen every plate race, every year.
> > His chief told him to go for the win; he didn't tell him how to do it.
> > Guess I just don't understand what the big deal is.
> > John
> > > > You're analyzing waaay to much. He was trying to win the race.
It
> > > didn't
> > > > work. Simple as that :)
> > > > John
> > > > > I know its easy to "Monday morning quarterback" somebody's move in
a
> > > race.
> > > > > But I really was perplexed at the decision Dale, Jr. made tonight
to
> > try
> > > > > Michael "high" with only a couple laps left in the Pepsi 400.
> > > > > I am hoping somebody talked him into that (like a crew chief???),
> but
> > if
> > > > it
> > > > > was his own decision then it shows he has some more "experience"
to
> > > gather
> > > > > up at the SS tracks. What was he trying to gain? Other than the
> > > obvious
> > > > > lead? He had everything to loose....and virtually nothing to gain
> > > unless
> > > > > his car was just that much stronger than Dale's.....and the
previous
> 5
> > > or
> > > > 6
> > > > > laps should have told him it wasn't! Unless Dale, Jr. thought he
> > could
> > > go
> > > > > high on his own....and just drive around Michael with no help (not
> > > > > likely).....then he should have known that Rusty would have to
> follow
> > > > > him....or he'd be "toast" and going straight to the back (which is
> > what
> > > > did
> > > > > happen)!
> > > > > But even worse! What if Rusty did go high with him? Now he
forces
> > > > Michael
> > > > > (his friend and teammate) into a blocking move that would require
> him
> > to
> > > > > pinch Dale to the outside wall. A dangerous block....but one,
> > > > > IMHO......Michael was obligated to make to attempt to protect his
> lead
> > > > > position. But, what if Michael decided not to put Dale in
> > danger....and
> > > > > just let him go around? That would have been a bad thing for Dale
> to
> > > > > do......to put Michael in that position of having to decide
between
> > > doing
> > > > > what the racer in him said was correct......and doing what the
> friend
> > > and
> > > > > teammate in him said was "safe" for Dale. Bad deal....IMHO. I
> think
> > > Dale
> > > > > owes Michael a personal "apology" for almost putting Michael in a
> > really
> > > > bad
> > > > > place! That's just my opinion.......post-race as it is. But,
what
> do
> > > you
> > > > > guys think?
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Tom