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OT: Little E's "Bad Decision" Tonight!

Tom Pabs

OT: Little E's "Bad Decision" Tonight!

by Tom Pabs » Mon, 08 Jul 2002 15:00:43

I know its easy to "Monday morning quarterback" somebody's move in a race.
But I really was perplexed at the decision Dale, Jr. made tonight to try
Michael "high" with only a couple laps left in the Pepsi 400.

I am hoping somebody talked him into that (like a crew chief???), but if it
was his own decision then it shows he has some more "experience" to gather
up at the SS tracks.  What was he trying to gain?  Other than the obvious
lead?  He had everything to loose....and virtually nothing to gain unless
his car was just that much stronger than Dale's.....and the previous 5 or 6
laps should have told him it wasn't!  Unless Dale, Jr. thought he could go
high on his own....and just drive around Michael with no help (not
likely).....then he should have known that Rusty would have to follow
him....or he'd be "toast" and going straight to the back (which is what did
happen)!

But even worse!  What if Rusty did go high with him?  Now he forces Michael
(his friend and teammate) into a blocking move that would require him to
pinch Dale to the outside wall.  A dangerous block....but one,
IMHO......Michael was obligated to make to attempt to protect his lead
position.  But, what if Michael decided not to put Dale in danger....and
just let him go around?  That would have been a bad thing for Dale to
do......to put Michael in that position of having to decide between doing
what the racer in him said was correct......and doing what the friend and
teammate in him said was "safe" for Dale.  Bad deal....IMHO.  I think Dale
owes Michael a personal "apology" for almost putting Michael in a really bad
place!  That's just my opinion.......post-race as it is.  But, what do you
guys think?

Regards,

Tom

jason moy

OT: Little E's "Bad Decision" Tonight!

by jason moy » Mon, 08 Jul 2002 15:15:06

I guess Dale Jr didn't win then?

Damn shame I haven't gotten to see the race yet.  Thanks for the
spoiler!!

Also, NASCAR isn't F1, sometimes the drivers try and pass each other,
even at Gaytona and Fellatega. We don't need to analyze it. =)     <--
kidding here

Jason



Don Burnett

OT: Little E's "Bad Decision" Tonight!

by Don Burnett » Mon, 08 Jul 2002 15:15:19

His crew chief talked him into going for the win, they said earlier that Jr
had transmitted to his crewchief that he was going to stay with Michael and
help him, and his crew chief encouraged him to go for the win, Jr told him
if that was what he wanted, that's what he would do.

Don Burnette


Tom Pabs

OT: Little E's "Bad Decision" Tonight!

by Tom Pabs » Mon, 08 Jul 2002 16:01:45

Don......

I'd heard something to that effect too (during the post race).
But.....without actually having seen/heard the words used by Dale's
CC......I'd have to assume they would have implied at least..."But don't do
anything stupid!"  I think Dale, Jr. had every right to take a shot at the
lead....IF....he saw a good opportunity revealed.  Or....even if he saw a
reasonable opportunity to take the lead.  None of that happened in my
opinion.  Dale, Jr. took a stupid chance with almost no possibility of a
good outcome for either himself or Michael.  That is what is so perplexing
to me.  I think I'm going to lose a lot of respect and admiration for Dale
Earnhardt, Jr., if he tries to hide behind his crew chief telling him to "go
for it".......as the reason he did what he did.  Wow, that really doesn't
sound like Dale, Jr. to me.

On another note.......do any of you guys get the feeling that there's "magic
in the air" at every Daytona race since Dale, Sr.'s death?  That place just
has something amazing going on......and "magic" is the only word I can think
of to describe it.  I don't think I will be able to miss watching a NASCAR
Daytona race ever again.  Its almost unbelievable what has happened there
since Dale was killed.  Its almost like God said, "Well Dale....I screwed up
and brought you up here before your time was up.  So, I've got to find
something for you to do between now and the time your regular "angel duties"
take effect.  Tell you what, I'm going to put you in charge of all the
NASCAR Daytona races until then.  Its up to you to figure out how exciting
you want to make them for everyone.....and who learns needed lessons at
them....and so forth.  I know you'll do a good job at that.  Heck....you
were doing that kind of thing for many years while you were down there.  I
know, I'd never miss watching you run at Daytona!"

Hmmmm, I wonder?

Tom


> His crew chief talked him into going for the win, they said earlier that
Jr
> had transmitted to his crewchief that he was going to stay with Michael
and
> help him, and his crew chief encouraged him to go for the win, Jr told him
> if that was what he wanted, that's what he would do.

> Don Burnette



> > I know its easy to "Monday morning quarterback" somebody's move in a
race.
> > But I really was perplexed at the decision Dale, Jr. made tonight to try
> > Michael "high" with only a couple laps left in the Pepsi 400.

> > I am hoping somebody talked him into that (like a crew chief???), but if
> it
> > was his own decision then it shows he has some more "experience" to
gather
> > up at the SS tracks.  What was he trying to gain?  Other than the
obvious
> > lead?  He had everything to loose....and virtually nothing to gain
unless
> > his car was just that much stronger than Dale's.....and the previous 5
or
> 6
> > laps should have told him it wasn't!  Unless Dale, Jr. thought he could
go
> > high on his own....and just drive around Michael with no help (not
> > likely).....then he should have known that Rusty would have to follow
> > him....or he'd be "toast" and going straight to the back (which is what
> did
> > happen)!

> > But even worse!  What if Rusty did go high with him?  Now he forces
> Michael
> > (his friend and teammate) into a blocking move that would require him to
> > pinch Dale to the outside wall.  A dangerous block....but one,
> > IMHO......Michael was obligated to make to attempt to protect his lead
> > position.  But, what if Michael decided not to put Dale in danger....and
> > just let him go around?  That would have been a bad thing for Dale to
> > do......to put Michael in that position of having to decide between
doing
> > what the racer in him said was correct......and doing what the friend
and
> > teammate in him said was "safe" for Dale.  Bad deal....IMHO.  I think
Dale
> > owes Michael a personal "apology" for almost putting Michael in a really
> bad
> > place!  That's just my opinion.......post-race as it is.  But, what do
you
> > guys think?

> > Regards,

> > Tom

ymenar

OT: Little E's "Bad Decision" Tonight!

by ymenar » Mon, 08 Jul 2002 16:16:15


> I am hoping somebody talked him into that (like a crew chief???), but if
it
> was his own decision then it shows he has some more "experience" to gather
> up at the SS tracks.  What was he trying to gain?  Other than the obvious
> lead?  He had everything to loose...

Fast Eddie would say to you that he doesn't give a damn about statistics,
you just sometimes got a hunch.

That's also appropriate in racing, my friend.

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jason moy

OT: Little E's "Bad Decision" Tonight!

by jason moy » Mon, 08 Jul 2002 18:23:16



From nascar.com:

"I kind of didn't get any help," Earnhardt Jr. said. "At the same time
I knew Rusty don't never help me. I've raced for three years now and
the man's never drafted with me once.

"I told Michael in the drivers' meeting I'd stay dedicated to him and
that's what I wanted to do. But Tony Jr. (car chief Tony Eury Jr.)
told me if I didn't try to win the race I wasn't a race car driver, so
I tried to win the race."

Jason

David Coo

OT: Little E's "Bad Decision" Tonight!

by David Coo » Mon, 08 Jul 2002 21:45:03

Newman had a good run on (his teammate) Wallace and Rusty blocked him.  Rusty
could have let him around and hooked up with him to go to the front.  Completely
changed the end of the race IMHO.

- David Cook




> "I kind of didn't get any help," Earnhardt Jr. said. "At the same time
> I knew Rusty don't never help me. I've raced for three years now and
> the man's never drafted with me once.

M. Mai

OT: Little E's "Bad Decision" Tonight!

by M. Mai » Mon, 08 Jul 2002 23:25:12

an apology for trying to win? you have mental issues.... this is racing, not WWF1.

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  I know its easy to "Monday morning quarterback" somebody's move in a race.
  But I really was perplexed at the decision Dale, Jr. made tonight to try
  Michael "high" with only a couple laps left in the Pepsi 400.

  I am hoping somebody talked him into that (like a crew chief???), but if it
  was his own decision then it shows he has some more "experience" to gather
  up at the SS tracks.  What was he trying to gain?  Other than the obvious
  lead?  He had everything to loose....and virtually nothing to gain unless
  his car was just that much stronger than Dale's.....and the previous 5 or 6
  laps should have told him it wasn't!  Unless Dale, Jr. thought he could go
  high on his own....and just drive around Michael with no help (not
  likely).....then he should have known that Rusty would have to follow
  him....or he'd be "toast" and going straight to the back (which is what did
  happen)!

  But even worse!  What if Rusty did go high with him?  Now he forces Michael
  (his friend and teammate) into a blocking move that would require him to
  pinch Dale to the outside wall.  A dangerous block....but one,
  IMHO......Michael was obligated to make to attempt to protect his lead
  position.  But, what if Michael decided not to put Dale in danger....and
  just let him go around?  That would have been a bad thing for Dale to
  do......to put Michael in that position of having to decide between doing
  what the racer in him said was correct......and doing what the friend and
  teammate in him said was "safe" for Dale.  Bad deal....IMHO.  I think Dale
  owes Michael a personal "apology" for almost putting Michael in a really bad
  place!  That's just my opinion.......post-race as it is.  But, what do you
  guys think?

  Regards,

  Tom

DAVID J ROBINSO

OT: Little E's "Bad Decision" Tonight!

by DAVID J ROBINSO » Tue, 09 Jul 2002 00:11:07

The ***was he was not going to race for the win. He was going to sit back
and protect Mike for the win.  That is not being a racer.  If you need to
know why find Stirling Moss and just ask him about it.

Dave


Dave St.Ong

OT: Little E's "Bad Decision" Tonight!

by Dave St.Ong » Tue, 09 Jul 2002 00:46:13

Actually, FOX broadcasted the whole conversation between Jr and Tony Eury
Jr. during the race.  Jr wanted to stay behind MW but Eury Jr. stated that
the guys had worked too *** the car for Little E to not make a run at
the win.  So, despite not wanting to make a go at it, he did, and you could
tell he wasn't terribly happy in the interview after the race...

Dave

John Pancoas

OT: Little E's "Bad Decision" Tonight!

by John Pancoas » Tue, 09 Jul 2002 00:48:53

  You're analyzing waaay to much.  He was trying to win the race.  It didn't
work.  Simple as that :)

John


Tom Pabs

OT: Little E's "Bad Decision" Tonight!

by Tom Pabs » Tue, 09 Jul 2002 01:10:04

Guys...I'm not analyzing anything too much........and I'm not saying that
Dale shouldn't have at least "tried" for a win.  But choosing a move that
had zero percentage of success.....isn't smart....isn't what a racer should
do.  It was stupid...and I didn't expect Dale to be stupid in those kinds of
situations.  That is what perplexes me.  Not the fact that he wanted to win
or wanted to try some opportunity if it presented itself.  There was no
"opportunity" to win.....at the time he tried Michael on the high side.
And, I think he knows that and that's why he didn't seem very happy with
himself at the post race.

His crew chief was not sitting in the car with Dale.  Its likely he didn't
even know the situation except as it appeared the last time the group passed
the pit lane.  And when did it ever be such that the crew chief makes the
definitive call on the move a driver makes on the track?  And, this was not
a "no points, run for the money shoot out."  It was a season points
race....not a 20-lap pickup race!  And, in all the years I've been following
racing....or racing myself......I've never seen a "win at all costs" driver
have any long term success in racing.  Can anyone?  C'mon guys!

TP


>   You're analyzing waaay to much.  He was trying to win the race.  It
didn't
> work.  Simple as that :)

> John



> > I know its easy to "Monday morning quarterback" somebody's move in a
race.
> > But I really was perplexed at the decision Dale, Jr. made tonight to try
> > Michael "high" with only a couple laps left in the Pepsi 400.

> > I am hoping somebody talked him into that (like a crew chief???), but if
> it
> > was his own decision then it shows he has some more "experience" to
gather
> > up at the SS tracks.  What was he trying to gain?  Other than the
obvious
> > lead?  He had everything to loose....and virtually nothing to gain
unless
> > his car was just that much stronger than Dale's.....and the previous 5
or
> 6
> > laps should have told him it wasn't!  Unless Dale, Jr. thought he could
go
> > high on his own....and just drive around Michael with no help (not
> > likely).....then he should have known that Rusty would have to follow
> > him....or he'd be "toast" and going straight to the back (which is what
> did
> > happen)!

> > But even worse!  What if Rusty did go high with him?  Now he forces
> Michael
> > (his friend and teammate) into a blocking move that would require him to
> > pinch Dale to the outside wall.  A dangerous block....but one,
> > IMHO......Michael was obligated to make to attempt to protect his lead
> > position.  But, what if Michael decided not to put Dale in danger....and
> > just let him go around?  That would have been a bad thing for Dale to
> > do......to put Michael in that position of having to decide between
doing
> > what the racer in him said was correct......and doing what the friend
and
> > teammate in him said was "safe" for Dale.  Bad deal....IMHO.  I think
Dale
> > owes Michael a personal "apology" for almost putting Michael in a really
> bad
> > place!  That's just my opinion.......post-race as it is.  But, what do
you
> > guys think?

> > Regards,

> > Tom

John Pancoas

OT: Little E's "Bad Decision" Tonight!

by John Pancoas » Tue, 09 Jul 2002 01:20:20


  Oh, I don't know; Dale Earnhardt was a "win at all costs" driver, and he
did alright :)  Fwiw, if Jr. had had help, he had a very good opportunity of
winning on the outside IMO.
  Bet he would have blown right by Waltrip, with help.  But that's not what
happened.  Not quite sure what the big deal is; this kind of move/results
happen every plate race, every year.
  His chief told him to go for the win; he didn't tell him how to do it.

  Guess I just don't understand what the big deal is.

John

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> >   You're analyzing waaay to much.  He was trying to win the race.  It
> didn't
> > work.  Simple as that :)

> > John



> > > I know its easy to "Monday morning quarterback" somebody's move in a
> race.
> > > But I really was perplexed at the decision Dale, Jr. made tonight to
try
> > > Michael "high" with only a couple laps left in the Pepsi 400.

> > > I am hoping somebody talked him into that (like a crew chief???), but
if
> > it
> > > was his own decision then it shows he has some more "experience" to
> gather
> > > up at the SS tracks.  What was he trying to gain?  Other than the
> obvious
> > > lead?  He had everything to loose....and virtually nothing to gain
> unless
> > > his car was just that much stronger than Dale's.....and the previous 5
> or
> > 6
> > > laps should have told him it wasn't!  Unless Dale, Jr. thought he
could
> go
> > > high on his own....and just drive around Michael with no help (not
> > > likely).....then he should have known that Rusty would have to follow
> > > him....or he'd be "toast" and going straight to the back (which is
what
> > did
> > > happen)!

> > > But even worse!  What if Rusty did go high with him?  Now he forces
> > Michael
> > > (his friend and teammate) into a blocking move that would require him
to
> > > pinch Dale to the outside wall.  A dangerous block....but one,
> > > IMHO......Michael was obligated to make to attempt to protect his lead
> > > position.  But, what if Michael decided not to put Dale in
danger....and
> > > just let him go around?  That would have been a bad thing for Dale to
> > > do......to put Michael in that position of having to decide between
> doing
> > > what the racer in him said was correct......and doing what the friend
> and
> > > teammate in him said was "safe" for Dale.  Bad deal....IMHO.  I think
> Dale
> > > owes Michael a personal "apology" for almost putting Michael in a
really
> > bad
> > > place!  That's just my opinion.......post-race as it is.  But, what do
> you
> > > guys think?

> > > Regards,

> > > Tom

Tom Pabs

OT: Little E's "Bad Decision" Tonight!

by Tom Pabs » Tue, 09 Jul 2002 01:41:05

John....

Dale Earnhardt lost his life doing just the opposite......and I'm pretty
sure that would be a "world opinion"......not just mine.  Dale may have been
an aggressive driver in his early years....but he learned from his mistakes
on the track and became a great driver because he made good decisions in the
race car....and his record proves that he did.  He didn't win all those
races by deliberately choosing "no percentage" moves during any race.

Of course had Jr. gotten "help" that would have at least made his attempt a
reasonable one.  But, I doubt there's a NASCAR fan on this planet....or
anyone in racing.....that would have thought Rusty would move out of the low
line to help him.  How come Jr. thought he would?

"Not quite sure what the big deal is; this kind of move/results happen every
plate race, every year."

I disagree with you......that kind of stupid move doesn't happen with
somebody as good as Jr. is on the SS....and with the *** DEI has
displayed on the SS over the last two years......and a DEI stablemate in the
lead......Jr. making such a rookie decision....makes it a big deal.

"His chief told him to go for the win; he didn't tell him how to do it."

My point exactly.

TP




> > Guys...I'm not analyzing anything too much........and I'm not saying
that
> > Dale shouldn't have at least "tried" for a win.  But choosing a move
that
> > had zero percentage of success.....isn't smart....isn't what a racer
> should
> > do.  It was stupid...and I didn't expect Dale to be stupid in those
kinds
> of
> > situations.  That is what perplexes me.  Not the fact that he wanted to
> win
> > or wanted to try some opportunity if it presented itself.  There was no
> > "opportunity" to win.....at the time he tried Michael on the high side.
> > And, I think he knows that and that's why he didn't seem very happy with
> > himself at the post race.

> > His crew chief was not sitting in the car with Dale.  Its likely he
didn't
> > even know the situation except as it appeared the last time the group
> passed
> > the pit lane.  And when did it ever be such that the crew chief makes
the
> > definitive call on the move a driver makes on the track?  And, this was
> not
> > a "no points, run for the money shoot out."  It was a season points
> > race....not a 20-lap pickup race!  And, in all the years I've been
> following
> > racing....or racing myself......I've never seen a "win at all costs"
> driver
> > have any long term success in racing.  Can anyone?  C'mon guys!

> > TP

>   Oh, I don't know; Dale Earnhardt was a "win at all costs" driver, and he
> did alright :)  Fwiw, if Jr. had had help, he had a very good opportunity
of
> winning on the outside IMO.
>   Bet he would have blown right by Waltrip, with help.  But that's not
what
> happened.  Not quite sure what the big deal is; this kind of move/results
> happen every plate race, every year.
>   His chief told him to go for the win; he didn't tell him how to do it.

>   Guess I just don't understand what the big deal is.

> John



> > >   You're analyzing waaay to much.  He was trying to win the race.  It
> > didn't
> > > work.  Simple as that :)

> > > John



> > > > I know its easy to "Monday morning quarterback" somebody's move in a
> > race.
> > > > But I really was perplexed at the decision Dale, Jr. made tonight to
> try
> > > > Michael "high" with only a couple laps left in the Pepsi 400.

> > > > I am hoping somebody talked him into that (like a crew chief???),
but
> if
> > > it
> > > > was his own decision then it shows he has some more "experience" to
> > gather
> > > > up at the SS tracks.  What was he trying to gain?  Other than the
> > obvious
> > > > lead?  He had everything to loose....and virtually nothing to gain
> > unless
> > > > his car was just that much stronger than Dale's.....and the previous
5
> > or
> > > 6
> > > > laps should have told him it wasn't!  Unless Dale, Jr. thought he
> could
> > go
> > > > high on his own....and just drive around Michael with no help (not
> > > > likely).....then he should have known that Rusty would have to
follow
> > > > him....or he'd be "toast" and going straight to the back (which is
> what
> > > did
> > > > happen)!

> > > > But even worse!  What if Rusty did go high with him?  Now he forces
> > > Michael
> > > > (his friend and teammate) into a blocking move that would require
him
> to
> > > > pinch Dale to the outside wall.  A dangerous block....but one,
> > > > IMHO......Michael was obligated to make to attempt to protect his
lead
> > > > position.  But, what if Michael decided not to put Dale in
> danger....and
> > > > just let him go around?  That would have been a bad thing for Dale
to
> > > > do......to put Michael in that position of having to decide between
> > doing
> > > > what the racer in him said was correct......and doing what the
friend
> > and
> > > > teammate in him said was "safe" for Dale.  Bad deal....IMHO.  I
think
> > Dale
> > > > owes Michael a personal "apology" for almost putting Michael in a
> really
> > > bad
> > > > place!  That's just my opinion.......post-race as it is.  But, what
do
> > you
> > > > guys think?

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Tom

John Pancoas

OT: Little E's "Bad Decision" Tonight!

by John Pancoas » Tue, 09 Jul 2002 02:10:57

  Shrug.  Guess we'll agree to disagree on just about every point then :)
No big deal.

John


> John....

> Dale Earnhardt lost his life doing just the opposite......and I'm pretty
> sure that would be a "world opinion"......not just mine.  Dale may have
been
> an aggressive driver in his early years....but he learned from his
mistakes
> on the track and became a great driver because he made good decisions in
the
> race car....and his record proves that he did.  He didn't win all those
> races by deliberately choosing "no percentage" moves during any race.

> Of course had Jr. gotten "help" that would have at least made his attempt
a
> reasonable one.  But, I doubt there's a NASCAR fan on this planet....or
> anyone in racing.....that would have thought Rusty would move out of the
low
> line to help him.  How come Jr. thought he would?

> "Not quite sure what the big deal is; this kind of move/results happen
every
> plate race, every year."

> I disagree with you......that kind of stupid move doesn't happen with
> somebody as good as Jr. is on the SS....and with the *** DEI has
> displayed on the SS over the last two years......and a DEI stablemate in
the
> lead......Jr. making such a rookie decision....makes it a big deal.

> "His chief told him to go for the win; he didn't tell him how to do it."

> My point exactly.

> TP





> > > Guys...I'm not analyzing anything too much........and I'm not saying
> that
> > > Dale shouldn't have at least "tried" for a win.  But choosing a move
> that
> > > had zero percentage of success.....isn't smart....isn't what a racer
> > should
> > > do.  It was stupid...and I didn't expect Dale to be stupid in those
> kinds
> > of
> > > situations.  That is what perplexes me.  Not the fact that he wanted
to
> > win
> > > or wanted to try some opportunity if it presented itself.  There was
no
> > > "opportunity" to win.....at the time he tried Michael on the high
side.
> > > And, I think he knows that and that's why he didn't seem very happy
with
> > > himself at the post race.

> > > His crew chief was not sitting in the car with Dale.  Its likely he
> didn't
> > > even know the situation except as it appeared the last time the group
> > passed
> > > the pit lane.  And when did it ever be such that the crew chief makes
> the
> > > definitive call on the move a driver makes on the track?  And, this
was
> > not
> > > a "no points, run for the money shoot out."  It was a season points
> > > race....not a 20-lap pickup race!  And, in all the years I've been
> > following
> > > racing....or racing myself......I've never seen a "win at all costs"
> > driver
> > > have any long term success in racing.  Can anyone?  C'mon guys!

> > > TP

> >   Oh, I don't know; Dale Earnhardt was a "win at all costs" driver, and
he
> > did alright :)  Fwiw, if Jr. had had help, he had a very good
opportunity
> of
> > winning on the outside IMO.
> >   Bet he would have blown right by Waltrip, with help.  But that's not
> what
> > happened.  Not quite sure what the big deal is; this kind of
move/results
> > happen every plate race, every year.
> >   His chief told him to go for the win; he didn't tell him how to do it.

> >   Guess I just don't understand what the big deal is.

> > John



> > > >   You're analyzing waaay to much.  He was trying to win the race.
It
> > > didn't
> > > > work.  Simple as that :)

> > > > John



> > > > > I know its easy to "Monday morning quarterback" somebody's move in
a
> > > race.
> > > > > But I really was perplexed at the decision Dale, Jr. made tonight
to
> > try
> > > > > Michael "high" with only a couple laps left in the Pepsi 400.

> > > > > I am hoping somebody talked him into that (like a crew chief???),
> but
> > if
> > > > it
> > > > > was his own decision then it shows he has some more "experience"
to
> > > gather
> > > > > up at the SS tracks.  What was he trying to gain?  Other than the
> > > obvious
> > > > > lead?  He had everything to loose....and virtually nothing to gain
> > > unless
> > > > > his car was just that much stronger than Dale's.....and the
previous
> 5
> > > or
> > > > 6
> > > > > laps should have told him it wasn't!  Unless Dale, Jr. thought he
> > could
> > > go
> > > > > high on his own....and just drive around Michael with no help (not
> > > > > likely).....then he should have known that Rusty would have to
> follow
> > > > > him....or he'd be "toast" and going straight to the back (which is
> > what
> > > > did
> > > > > happen)!

> > > > > But even worse!  What if Rusty did go high with him?  Now he
forces
> > > > Michael
> > > > > (his friend and teammate) into a blocking move that would require
> him
> > to
> > > > > pinch Dale to the outside wall.  A dangerous block....but one,
> > > > > IMHO......Michael was obligated to make to attempt to protect his
> lead
> > > > > position.  But, what if Michael decided not to put Dale in
> > danger....and
> > > > > just let him go around?  That would have been a bad thing for Dale
> to
> > > > > do......to put Michael in that position of having to decide
between
> > > doing
> > > > > what the racer in him said was correct......and doing what the
> friend
> > > and
> > > > > teammate in him said was "safe" for Dale.  Bad deal....IMHO.  I
> think
> > > Dale
> > > > > owes Michael a personal "apology" for almost putting Michael in a
> > really
> > > > bad
> > > > > place!  That's just my opinion.......post-race as it is.  But,
what
> do
> > > you
> > > > > guys think?

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Tom


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