rec.autos.simulators

by **Gary A. Sorrell** » Fri, 21 Sep 2001 11:04:07

I just got this card and it calibrates just fine in 3d3. I get between
30-60 fps. But in GL I get 60fps starting out ( and a much better picture)
until the screen blacks out about 30 seconds after I start driving. I can
hear sounds, but screen is black.I have set all the norm setting for GL,
v-sync is turned off. System is AMD Atlon 1000, 30gig WD HD, 786 PC-133
SDRAM, on-board SB-128. N4 is patched. Any suggestions would be
appreciated as video is much better in GL.

by **Haqsa** » Fri, 21 Sep 2001 11:19:29

N4 has problems with some of the OpenGL driver versions. Which version
are you using?

by **Gary A. Sorrell** » Sat, 22 Sep 2001 11:03:09

I am using the 4.0 version, specificaly: 4.13.7075. the build is
D7.20-017b-129C-ATI. Is this what you need?

> N4 has problems with some of the OpenGL driver versions. Which version
> are you using?

> > I just got this card and it calibrates just fine in 3d3. I get
> between
> > 30-60 fps. But in GL I get 60fps starting out ( and a much better
> picture)
> > until the screen blacks out about 30 seconds after I start driving. I
> can
> > hear sounds, but screen is black.I have set all the norm setting for
> GL,
> > v-sync is turned off. System is AMD Atlon 1000, 30gig WD HD, 786
> PC-133
> > SDRAM, on-board SB-128. N4 is patched. Any suggestions would be
> > appreciated as video is much better in GL.

by **Haqsa** » Sat, 22 Sep 2001 12:14:24

The last 4 digits are the important ones. You are using 7075, which I
believe is one of the ones that have a problem. I think the newer ones
work, but I haven't bothered to try them. The 7041 drivers are known to
work reliably with N4, however you do not have to switch drivers in
Windows. All you have to do is put the OpenGL driver from the 7041
driver set into the Nascar 4 folder. That way you can still update your
Windows drivers without screwing up N4. The file name for the driver is
atio9xag.dll. You can probably find the 7041 drivers at www.rage3d.com.
If you can't find them let me know and I can e-mail the file to you.

> I am using the 4.0 version, specificaly: 4.13.7075. the build is
> D7.20-017b-129C-ATI. Is this what you need?

> > N4 has problems with some of the OpenGL driver versions. Which
version
> > are you using?

> > > I just got this card and it calibrates just fine in 3d3. I get
> > between
> > > 30-60 fps. But in GL I get 60fps starting out ( and a much better
> > picture)
> > > until the screen blacks out about 30 seconds after I start
driving. I
> > can
> > > hear sounds, but screen is black.I have set all the norm setting
for
> > GL,
> > > v-sync is turned off. System is AMD Atlon 1000, 30gig WD HD, 786
> > PC-133
> > > SDRAM, on-board SB-128. N4 is patched. Any suggestions would be
> > > appreciated as video is much better in GL.

by **Gary A. Sorrell** » Sat, 22 Sep 2001 18:59:46

Thank you, I'll try that tonight.

> The last 4 digits are the important ones. You are using 7075, which I
> believe is one of the ones that have a problem. I think the newer ones
> work, but I haven't bothered to try them. The 7041 drivers are known to
> work reliably with N4, however you do not have to switch drivers in
> Windows. All you have to do is put the OpenGL driver from the 7041
> driver set into the Nascar 4 folder. That way you can still update your
> Windows drivers without screwing up N4. The file name for the driver is
> atio9xag.dll. You can probably find the 7041 drivers at www.rage3d.com.
> If you can't find them let me know and I can e-mail the file to you.

> > I am using the 4.0 version, specificaly: 4.13.7075. the build is
> > D7.20-017b-129C-ATI. Is this what you need?

> > > N4 has problems with some of the OpenGL driver versions. Which
> version
> > > are you using?

> > > > I just got this card and it calibrates just fine in 3d3. I get
> > > between
> > > > 30-60 fps. But in GL I get 60fps starting out ( and a much better
> > > picture)
> > > > until the screen blacks out about 30 seconds after I start
> driving. I
> > > can
> > > > hear sounds, but screen is black.I have set all the norm setting
> for
> > > GL,
> > > > v-sync is turned off. System is AMD Atlon 1000, 30gig WD HD, 786
> > > PC-133
> > > > SDRAM, on-board SB-128. N4 is patched. Any suggestions would be
> > > > appreciated as video is much better in GL.

by **Ian** » Sat, 22 Sep 2001 19:37:39

There is (was?) a discussion about Radeon drivers for N4 at
http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=15590

You can just put the required drivers in the N4 folder so that you can run
the latest for your other games.

--

Ian P
<email invalid due to spammers>

> The last 4 digits are the important ones. You are using 7075, which I
> believe is one of the ones that have a problem. I think the newer ones
> work, but I haven't bothered to try them. The 7041 drivers are known to
> work reliably with N4, however you do not have to switch drivers in
> Windows. All you have to do is put the OpenGL driver from the 7041
> driver set into the Nascar 4 folder. That way you can still update your
> Windows drivers without screwing up N4. The file name for the driver is
> atio9xag.dll. You can probably find the 7041 drivers at www.rage3d.com.
> If you can't find them let me know and I can e-mail the file to you.

> > I am using the 4.0 version, specificaly: 4.13.7075. the build is
> > D7.20-017b-129C-ATI. Is this what you need?

> > > N4 has problems with some of the OpenGL driver versions. Which
> version
> > > are you using?

by **Gary A. Sorrell** » Sun, 23 Sep 2001 10:37:32

I put the dll in the folder and no luck. I have un-intstalled and
re-installed and it keeps using the 7075 driver. The 7014 was on my CD for
the card, but I can't get to overwrite the 7075. Any ideas?

> There is (was?) a discussion about Radeon drivers for N4 at
> http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=15590

> You can just put the required drivers in the N4 folder so that you can run
> the latest for your other games.

> --

> Ian P
> <email invalid due to spammers>

> > The last 4 digits are the important ones. You are using 7075, which I
> > believe is one of the ones that have a problem. I think the newer ones
> > work, but I haven't bothered to try them. The 7041 drivers are known to
> > work reliably with N4, however you do not have to switch drivers in
> > Windows. All you have to do is put the OpenGL driver from the 7041
> > driver set into the Nascar 4 folder. That way you can still update your
> > Windows drivers without screwing up N4. The file name for the driver is
> > atio9xag.dll. You can probably find the 7041 drivers at www.rage3d.com.
> > If you can't find them let me know and I can e-mail the file to you.

> > > I am using the 4.0 version, specificaly: 4.13.7075. the build is
> > > D7.20-017b-129C-ATI. Is this what you need?

> > > > N4 has problems with some of the OpenGL driver versions. Which
> > version
> > > > are you using?

by **Haqsa** » Sun, 23 Sep 2001 11:31:34

In the control panel it will always appear to be using the 7075 driver.
But if you put the dll in the same directory as the N4 executable file,
it will find that dll first and run it instead of the installed one.
Re-run the N4 graphics setup to make sure. Also, you said the "7014"
drivers were on your CD. Is that a typo? Because the ones that you
need are the 7041, not 7014.

> I put the dll in the folder and no luck. I have un-intstalled and
> re-installed and it keeps using the 7075 driver. The 7014 was on my
CD for
> the card, but I can't get to overwrite the 7075. Any ideas?

> > There is (was?) a discussion about Radeon drivers for N4 at
> > http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=15590

> > You can just put the required drivers in the N4 folder so that you
can run
> > the latest for your other games.

> > --

> > Ian P
> > <email invalid due to spammers>

> > > The last 4 digits are the important ones. You are using 7075,
which I
> > > believe is one of the ones that have a problem. I think the newer
ones
> > > work, but I haven't bothered to try them. The 7041 drivers are
known to
> > > work reliably with N4, however you do not have to switch drivers
in
> > > Windows. All you have to do is put the OpenGL driver from the
7041
> > > driver set into the Nascar 4 folder. That way you can still
update your
> > > Windows drivers without screwing up N4. The file name for the
driver is
> > > atio9xag.dll. You can probably find the 7041 drivers at
www.rage3d.com.
> > > If you can't find them let me know and I can e-mail the file to
you.

> > > > I am using the 4.0 version, specificaly: 4.13.7075. the build
is
> > > > D7.20-017b-129C-ATI. Is this what you need?

> > > > > N4 has problems with some of the OpenGL driver versions.
Which
> > > version
> > > > > are you using?

by **pacern** » Sun, 23 Sep 2001 12:04:09

Yes that was an typo, 7041 is correct. I'll try it again.

> In the control panel it will always appear to be using the 7075 driver.
> But if you put the dll in the same directory as the N4 executable file,
> it will find that dll first and run it instead of the installed one.
> Re-run the N4 graphics setup to make sure. Also, you said the "7014"
> drivers were on your CD. Is that a typo? Because the ones that you
> need are the 7041, not 7014.

>>I put the dll in the folder and no luck. I have un-intstalled and
>>re-installed and it keeps using the 7075 driver. The 7014 was on my

> CD for

>>the card, but I can't get to overwrite the 7075. Any ideas?

>>>There is (was?) a discussion about Radeon drivers for N4 at
>>>http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=15590

>>>You can just put the required drivers in the N4 folder so that you

> can run

>>>the latest for your other games.

>>>--

>>>Ian P
>>><email invalid due to spammers>

>>>>The last 4 digits are the important ones. You are using 7075,

> which I

>>>>believe is one of the ones that have a problem. I think the newer

> ones

>>>>work, but I haven't bothered to try them. The 7041 drivers are

> known to

>>>>work reliably with N4, however you do not have to switch drivers

> in

>>>>Windows. All you have to do is put the OpenGL driver from the

> 7041

>>>>driver set into the Nascar 4 folder. That way you can still

> update your

>>>>Windows drivers without screwing up N4. The file name for the

> driver is

>>>>atio9xag.dll. You can probably find the 7041 drivers at

> www.rage3d.com.

>>>>If you can't find them let me know and I can e-mail the file to

> you.

>>>>>I am using the 4.0 version, specificaly: 4.13.7075. the build

> is

>>>>>D7.20-017b-129C-ATI. Is this what you need?

>>>>>>N4 has problems with some of the OpenGL driver versions.

> Which

>>>>version

>>>>>>are you using?

by **gsor156** » Mon, 24 Sep 2001 21:12:00

I tried it again and get to run about 1-4 laps and it locks up. Any
more Ideas?

> Yes that was an typo, 7041 is correct. I'll try it again.

>> In the control panel it will always appear to be using the 7075 driver.
>> But if you put the dll in the same directory as the N4 executable file,
>> it will find that dll first and run it instead of the installed one.
>> Re-run the N4 graphics setup to make sure. Also, you said the "7014"
>> drivers were on your CD. Is that a typo? Because the ones that you
>> need are the 7041, not 7014.

>>> I put the dll in the folder and no luck. I have un-intstalled and
>>> re-installed and it keeps using the 7075 driver. The 7014 was on my

>> CD for

>>> the card, but I can't get to overwrite the 7075. Any ideas?

>>>> There is (was?) a discussion about Radeon drivers for N4 at
>>>> http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=15590

>>>> You can just put the required drivers in the N4 folder so that you

>> can run

>>>> the latest for your other games.

>>>> --

>>>> Ian P
>>>> <email invalid due to spammers>

>>>>> The last 4 digits are the important ones. You are using 7075,

>> which I

>>>>> believe is one of the ones that have a problem. I think the newer

>> ones

>>>>> work, but I haven't bothered to try them. The 7041 drivers are

>> known to

>>>>> work reliably with N4, however you do not have to switch drivers

>> in

>>>>> Windows. All you have to do is put the OpenGL driver from the

>> 7041

>>>>> driver set into the Nascar 4 folder. That way you can still

>> update your

>>>>> Windows drivers without screwing up N4. The file name for the

>> driver is

>>>>> atio9xag.dll. You can probably find the 7041 drivers at

>> www.rage3d.com.

>>>>> If you can't find them let me know and I can e-mail the file to

>> you.

>>>>>> I am using the 4.0 version, specificaly: 4.13.7075. the build

>> is

>>>>>> D7.20-017b-129C-ATI. Is this what you need?

>>>>>>> N4 has problems with some of the OpenGL driver versions.

>> Which

>>>>> version

>>>>>>> are you using?

by **Haqsa** » Tue, 25 Sep 2001 01:45:25

Oops, no, sorry. It works for me. The only thing I can suggest at this
point is to ask your question in the forums at www.rage3d.com. There
are some very well informed Radeon users there who can probably help you
figure it out.

> I tried it again and get to run about 1-4 laps and it locks up. Any
> more Ideas?

> > Yes that was an typo, 7041 is correct. I'll try it again.

> >> In the control panel it will always appear to be using the 7075
driver.
> >> But if you put the dll in the same directory as the N4 executable
file,
> >> it will find that dll first and run it instead of the installed
one.
> >> Re-run the N4 graphics setup to make sure. Also, you said the
"7014"
> >> drivers were on your CD. Is that a typo? Because the ones that
you
> >> need are the 7041, not 7014.

> >>> I put the dll in the folder and no luck. I have un-intstalled and
> >>> re-installed and it keeps using the 7075 driver. The 7014 was on
my

> >> CD for

> >>> the card, but I can't get to overwrite the 7075. Any ideas?

> >>>> There is (was?) a discussion about Radeon drivers for N4 at
> >>>> http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=15590

> >>>> You can just put the required drivers in the N4 folder so that
you

> >> can run

> >>>> the latest for your other games.

> >>>> --

> >>>> Ian P
> >>>> <email invalid due to spammers>

> >>>>> The last 4 digits are the important ones. You are using 7075,

> >> which I

> >>>>> believe is one of the ones that have a problem. I think the
newer

> >> ones

> >>>>> work, but I haven't bothered to try them. The 7041 drivers are

> >> known to

> >>>>> work reliably with N4, however you do not have to switch drivers

> >> in

> >>>>> Windows. All you have to do is put the OpenGL driver from the

> >> 7041

> >>>>> driver set into the Nascar 4 folder. That way you can still

> >> update your

> >>>>> Windows drivers without screwing up N4. The file name for the

> >> driver is

> >>>>> atio9xag.dll. You can probably find the 7041 drivers at

> >> www.rage3d.com.

> >>>>> If you can't find them let me know and I can e-mail the file to

> >> you.

> >>>>>> I am using the 4.0 version, specificaly: 4.13.7075. the build

> >> is

> >>>>>> D7.20-017b-129C-ATI. Is this what you need?

> >>>>>>> N4 has problems with some of the OpenGL driver versions.

> >> Which

> >>>>> version

> >>>>>>> are you using?

by **Ian** » Tue, 25 Sep 2001 23:08:08

For now you could try running in D3D. The Radeon seems just as fast in D3D
as it does in OGL, doesn't quite look as nice but at least it's stable

Ian P
<email invalid due to spam>

> Oops, no, sorry. It works for me. The only thing I can suggest at this
> point is to ask your question in the forums at www.rage3d.com. There
> are some very well informed Radeon users there who can probably help you
> figure it out.

> > I tried it again and get to run about 1-4 laps and it locks up. Any
> > more Ideas?

> > > Yes that was an typo, 7041 is correct. I'll try it again.

> > >> In the control panel it will always appear to be using the 7075
> driver.
> > >> But if you put the dll in the same directory as the N4 executable
> file,
> > >> it will find that dll first and run it instead of the installed
> one.
> > >> Re-run the N4 graphics setup to make sure. Also, you said the
> "7014"
> > >> drivers were on your CD. Is that a typo? Because the ones that
> you
> > >> need are the 7041, not 7014.

> > >>> I put the dll in the folder and no luck. I have un-intstalled and
> > >>> re-installed and it keeps using the 7075 driver. The 7014 was on
> my

> > >> CD for

> > >>> the card, but I can't get to overwrite the 7075. Any ideas?

> > >>>> There is (was?) a discussion about Radeon drivers for N4 at
> > >>>> http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=15590

> > >>>> You can just put the required drivers in the N4 folder so that
> you

> > >> can run

> > >>>> the latest for your other games.

> > >>>> --

> > >>>> Ian P
> > >>>> <email invalid due to spammers>

> > >>>>> The last 4 digits are the important ones. You are using 7075,

> > >> which I

> > >>>>> believe is one of the ones that have a problem. I think the
> newer

> > >> ones

> > >>>>> work, but I haven't bothered to try them. The 7041 drivers are

> > >> known to

> > >>>>> work reliably with N4, however you do not have to switch drivers

> > >> in

> > >>>>> Windows. All you have to do is put the OpenGL driver from the

> > >> 7041

> > >>>>> driver set into the Nascar 4 folder. That way you can still

> > >> update your

> > >>>>> Windows drivers without screwing up N4. The file name for the

> > >> driver is

> > >>>>> atio9xag.dll. You can probably find the 7041 drivers at

> > >> www.rage3d.com.

> > >>>>> If you can't find them let me know and I can e-mail the file to

> > >> you.

> > >>>>>> I am using the 4.0 version, specificaly: 4.13.7075. the build

> > >> is

> > >>>>>> D7.20-017b-129C-ATI. Is this what you need?

> > >>>>>>> N4 has problems with some of the OpenGL driver versions.

> > >> Which

> > >>>>> version

> > >>>>>>> are you using?

by **Haqsa** » Wed, 26 Sep 2001 08:47:49

Must depend on other hardware or something, because for me OpenGL is
much faster. I believe the original poster (whatever his name is today)
said the same thing.

> For now you could try running in D3D. The Radeon seems just as fast in
D3D
> as it does in OGL, doesn't quite look as nice but at least it's stable

> Ian P
> <email invalid due to spam>

> > Oops, no, sorry. It works for me. The only thing I can suggest at
this
> > point is to ask your question in the forums at www.rage3d.com.
There
> > are some very well informed Radeon users there who can probably help
you
> > figure it out.

> > > I tried it again and get to run about 1-4 laps and it locks up.
Any
> > > more Ideas?

> > > > Yes that was an typo, 7041 is correct. I'll try it again.

> > > >> In the control panel it will always appear to be using the 7075
> > driver.
> > > >> But if you put the dll in the same directory as the N4
executable
> > file,
> > > >> it will find that dll first and run it instead of the installed
> > one.
> > > >> Re-run the N4 graphics setup to make sure. Also, you said the
> > "7014"
> > > >> drivers were on your CD. Is that a typo? Because the ones
that
> > you
> > > >> need are the 7041, not 7014.

> > > >>> I put the dll in the folder and no luck. I have un-intstalled
and
> > > >>> re-installed and it keeps using the 7075 driver. The 7014 was
on
> > my

> > > >> CD for

> > > >>> the card, but I can't get to overwrite the 7075. Any ideas?

> > > >>>> There is (was?) a discussion about Radeon drivers for N4 at
> > > >>>> http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=15590

> > > >>>> You can just put the required drivers in the N4 folder so
that
> > you

> > > >> can run

> > > >>>> the latest for your other games.

> > > >>>> --

> > > >>>> Ian P
> > > >>>> <email invalid due to spammers>

> > > >>>>> The last 4 digits are the important ones. You are using
7075,

> > > >> which I

> > > >>>>> believe is one of the ones that have a problem. I think the
> > newer

> > > >> ones

> > > >>>>> work, but I haven't bothered to try them. The 7041 drivers
are

> > > >> known to

> > > >>>>> work reliably with N4, however you do not have to switch
drivers

> > > >> in

> > > >>>>> Windows. All you have to do is put the OpenGL driver from
the

> > > >> 7041

> > > >>>>> driver set into the Nascar 4 folder. That way you can still

> > > >> update your

> > > >>>>> Windows drivers without screwing up N4. The file name for
the

> > > >> driver is

> > > >>>>> atio9xag.dll. You can probably find the 7041 drivers at

> > > >> www.rage3d.com.

> > > >>>>> If you can't find them let me know and I can e-mail the file
to

> > > >> you.

- Show quoted text -

> > > >>>>>> I am using the 4.0 version, specificaly: 4.13.7075. the
build

> > > >> is

> > > >>>>>> D7.20-017b-129C-ATI. Is this what you need?

> > > >>>>>>> N4 has problems with some of the OpenGL driver versions.

> > > >> Which

> > > >>>>> version

> > > >>>>>>> are you using?

by **Ian** » Thu, 27 Sep 2001 01:26:57

For me I got about the same framerate using either OGL or D3D, so you're
probably right.

Ian P
<email invalid due to spam>

> Must depend on other hardware or something, because for me OpenGL is
> much faster. I believe the original poster (whatever his name is today)
> said the same thing.

> > For now you could try running in D3D. The Radeon seems just as fast in
> D3D
> > as it does in OGL, doesn't quite look as nice but at least it's stable

> > Ian P
> > <email invalid due to spam>

> > > Oops, no, sorry. It works for me. The only thing I can suggest at
> this
> > > point is to ask your question in the forums at www.rage3d.com.
> There
> > > are some very well informed Radeon users there who can probably help
> you
> > > figure it out.

> > > > I tried it again and get to run about 1-4 laps and it locks up.
> Any
> > > > more Ideas?

> > > > > Yes that was an typo, 7041 is correct. I'll try it again.

> > > > >> In the control panel it will always appear to be using the 7075
> > > driver.
> > > > >> But if you put the dll in the same directory as the N4
> executable
> > > file,
> > > > >> it will find that dll first and run it instead of the installed
> > > one.
> > > > >> Re-run the N4 graphics setup to make sure. Also, you said the
> > > "7014"
> > > > >> drivers were on your CD. Is that a typo? Because the ones
> that
> > > you
> > > > >> need are the 7041, not 7014.

> > > > >>> I put the dll in the folder and no luck. I have un-intstalled
> and
> > > > >>> re-installed and it keeps using the 7075 driver. The 7014 was
> on
> > > my

> > > > >> CD for

> > > > >>> the card, but I can't get to overwrite the 7075. Any ideas?

> > > > >>>> There is (was?) a discussion about Radeon drivers for N4 at
> > > > >>>> http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=15590

> > > > >>>> You can just put the required drivers in the N4 folder so
> that
> > > you

> > > > >> can run

> > > > >>>> the latest for your other games.

> > > > >>>> --

> > > > >>>> Ian P
> > > > >>>> <email invalid due to spammers>

> > > > >>>>> The last 4 digits are the important ones. You are using
> 7075,

> > > > >> which I

> > > > >>>>> believe is one of the ones that have a problem. I think the
> > > newer

> > > > >> ones

> > > > >>>>> work, but I haven't bothered to try them. The 7041 drivers
> are

> > > > >> known to

> > > > >>>>> work reliably with N4, however you do not have to switch
> drivers

> > > > >> in

> > > > >>>>> Windows. All you have to do is put the OpenGL driver from
> the

> > > > >> 7041

> > > > >>>>> driver set into the Nascar 4 folder. That way you can still

> > > > >> update your

> > > > >>>>> Windows drivers without screwing up N4. The file name for
> the

> > > > >> driver is

> > > > >>>>> atio9xag.dll. You can probably find the 7041 drivers at

> > > > >> www.rage3d.com.

> > > > >>>>> If you can't find them let me know and I can e-mail the file
> to

> > > > >> you.

> > > > >>>>>> I am using the 4.0 version, specificaly: 4.13.7075. the
> build

> > > > >> is

> > > > >>>>>> D7.20-017b-129C-ATI. Is this what you need?

> > > > >>>>>>> N4 has problems with some of the OpenGL driver versions.

> > > > >> Which

> > > > >>>>> version

> > > > >>>>>>> are you using?

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Radeon 64DDR and Open GL in Nascar 4

Radeon 64DDR and Open GL in Nascar 4

Radeon 64DDR and Open GL in Nascar 4

Radeon 64DDR and Open GL in Nascar 4

Radeon 64DDR and Open GL in Nascar 4

Radeon 64DDR and Open GL in Nascar 4

Radeon 64DDR and Open GL in Nascar 4

Radeon 64DDR and Open GL in Nascar 4

Radeon 64DDR and Open GL in Nascar 4

Radeon 64DDR and Open GL in Nascar 4

Radeon 64DDR and Open GL in Nascar 4

Radeon 64DDR and Open GL in Nascar 4

Radeon 64DDR and Open GL in Nascar 4

Radeon 64DDR and Open GL in Nascar 4