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by **Eldre** » Tue, 29 Jul 2003 22:29:48

Argh...I can't get the stupid thing to work with my TSW2. Anybody get it to
work in split-axis mode who can tell me how? If I can't play it, I can't
evaluate it. What is it with the convoluted control routines? Ponderous...

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by **Steve Blankenshi** » Tue, 29 Jul 2003 23:21:21

Demo no workee with split axis - save your time & hit delete...

by **Eldre** » Wed, 30 Jul 2003 01:28:23

Crap. Does that mean the retail won't work with split-axis, either? I don't
remember seeing that. That's a deal-breaker, IMO. I'm not going to change
around my whole setup for ONE game...

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by **jason moy** » Wed, 30 Jul 2003 02:54:42

On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 10:21:21 -0400, "Steve Blankenship"

>Demo no workee with split axis - save your time & hit delete...

Works fine with my precision pro (also autodects it, like Rally
Trophy).

Eldred, did you have any success with Rally Trophy or the demo for it?
It uses the same controller setup scheme.

Jason

by **Eldre** » Wed, 30 Jul 2003 10:24:25

moyer) writes:
>On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 10:21:21 -0400, "Steve Blankenship"

>>Demo no workee with split axis - save your time & hit delete...

>Works fine with my precision pro (also autodects it, like Rally
>Trophy).

>Eldred, did you have any success with Rally Trophy or the demo for it?
>It uses the same controller setup scheme.

I'm not much of a rally fan, so I never even downloaded the RT demo... So,
it's not a problem with split-axis, huh? I guess it just doesn't like the
TSW... Of course, there could just be something strange about the TSW. Uwe
Schuerkamp had problems getting his to work with F12002, and had to modify his
wheel with help from Dave Jr. Mine worked as soon as I loaded the game, no
problems whatsoever. And, I never got my TSW to work with M-B Truck racing,
but I hear that others got it to work fine. Damn computers...

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by **jason moy** » Thu, 31 Jul 2003 04:27:12

That's possible, I've heard nothing but bad things about the
controller config scheme in RT/IndyCarSeries.

by **Eldre** » Thu, 31 Jul 2003 06:32:51

moyer) writes:

>>I'm not much of a rally fan, so I never even downloaded the RT demo... So,
>>it's not a problem with split-axis, huh? I guess it just doesn't like the
>>TSW...

>That's possible, I've heard nothing but bad things about the
>controller config scheme in RT/IndyCarSeries.

Ok, maybe I'll try to find the RT demo. Maybe I can get *it* to work, then do
the same thing for Indycar... Control file, or something.

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by **McWho** » Sun, 03 Aug 2003 18:25:44

"EldredP" wrote

More often than not trouble with a FF controller is the same as graphics
type issues. Check hardware accel. on the sound card and try setup up a
hardware profile for that/those games. try with the lowest sound accel., if
not try lowering graphics. or both? Could just be the way the game is
accessing resources and where your controller loads in the run file. Like
you said "Damn computers", but before this I just watched reruns on TV. My
old sidewinder stick used to just up and quit working in a game I had played
for days or even months. Disconnected the stick, unloaded the drivers and
reconnect/reconfigure stick. I still say XP is no different, trouble with a
driver? Reload, usually works. :-)

Sean

by **Eldre** » Mon, 04 Aug 2003 07:25:16

>More often than not trouble with a FF controller is the same as graphics
>type issues. Check hardware accel. on the sound card and try setup up a
>hardware profile for that/those games. try with the lowest sound accel., if
>not try lowering graphics. or both? Could just be the way the game is
>accessing resources and where your controller loads in the run file. Like
>you said "Damn computers", but before this I just watched reruns on TV. My
>old sidewinder stick used to just up and quit working in a game I had played
>for days or even months. Disconnected the stick, unloaded the drivers and
>reconnect/reconfigure stick. I still say XP is no different, trouble with a
>driver? Reload, usually works. :-)

I don't have a FF wheel, and I'm *never* getting XP... I just can't figure out
how to get the proper controls to work for the proper actions. In F1
Challenge, the y- axis is gas, and the rz+ is brake. So in the indycar demo, I
select the y axis for gas, and the rz axis for brake. When I go to the track
the thing applies the brakes as soon as you're off computer control. I have to
hit the brake pedal a couple of times after the green flag, then it seems that
the brake pedal is functioning as the accelerator. Why the heck can't they
just say "choose an action", then read the control that you hit in response?
Stupid program... :-(
My wheel/pedal combo works in every other game I play(except M-B Truck Racing).
So now I have *two* that it won't work on. Unless they fix the controller
setup, I certainly won't be buying the retail game. Too bad - I really wanted
to like it...

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by **elrik** » Mon, 04 Aug 2003 11:01:01

Some sims (games ?) need the signals from the controller inverted to work
properly and often provide a check box in the setup for each axis to do so.

ie. If your gas & brake pedals are in need of this then the game would read
them as being full ON when they are full OFF. So when you press on the
brake you are actually releasing it and since the gas is probably reversed
as well the car begins to accelerate because the gas is full ON.

Just and idea.

Elrikk (who swears by [and not at, so much] XP Pro)

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