rec.autos.simulators

>         Accurency of track is extremly important. If you have accurate track
> dimensions, then you can start to refine modeling of track surface, along
> with modeling of everything else. Start with simple things, and develop,
> until you reach a "complete" simulation of reality. -- Mario

>     The other thing that people are overlooking is that this will be the 1st
> thing that is non Oval Racing specific by Kaemmer since GPL (the PTA hack in
> NR 2003 aside) - that is the most important thing to me.

>     The big ? for me is will we finally see some weather simulation from a
> Kaemmer sim?

> It is the old damned if you do damned if you don't dilemma, Tim.

> We have one group clamoring for early WIP as evidence that an iRacing sim
> exists in the making and another group picking holes at the small video
> which aims to show how accurate the track is rather than showing off the
> graphics engine.

> FWIW I think the real video is worse than the simulated one, with its fish
> eye view, low quality and it was filmed on such a dull day. Perhaps we
> should take it to a film makers forum and see what they have to say :)

> Thanks for sharing the video. I only hope you (and all other sim racing
> devs) have broad enough shoulders to keep these WIP snippets coming,
> hopefully there will be some constructive comments to pick out, but to
> demonstrate track accuracy and then have to field questions on the
> "missing" dynamic lighting makes you wonder if the effort is worthwhile,
> which would be a shame for the rest of us keen to monitor progress.

> Cheers
> Tony

> I don't believe they care about the latest and greatest graphics at
> this point but are focusing more on physics and car/track interaction
> accuracy. Limerock is very accurate, though I would question the lack
> of RL bumpiness in the downhill apex and in the front straight baking
> zone. (My RF suspension gets hammered after the downhill if i'm tight
> to the curb and the sims doesn't seem to..) From what I get from the
> site this sim is pointed at those that race (or aspire to)  in real
> life and want something that allows them to practice and learn real
> tracks... without the costs associated in actually going there. Of
> course time will tell and right now we are inundated with some
> excellent racing sims.. may be a tough sell in 2007.

> GP

> Tim - can we possibly get some real info on the sim beyond the marketing PR,
> that is all I am looking for.

> >> The comments on graphics are quite amusing to me to be honest, having
> >> come from simracing to sim development. Try shrinking a 1600x1200 image
> >> of something you think looks good down to the same width and height of
> >> the right side of that video, then tell me if you can see the detail
> >> you could at 1600x1200. That's all I have to say.

> > It is the old damned if you do damned if you don't dilemma, Tim.

> > We have one group clamoring for early WIP as evidence that an iRacing sim
> > exists in the making and another group picking holes at the small video
> > which aims to show how accurate the track is rather than showing off the
> > graphics engine.

> > FWIW I think the real video is worse than the simulated one, with its fish
> > eye view, low quality and it was filmed on such a dull day. Perhaps we
> > should take it to a film makers forum and see what they have to say :)

> > Thanks for sharing the video. I only hope you (and all other sim racing
> > devs) have broad enough shoulders to keep these WIP snippets coming,
> > hopefully there will be some constructive comments to pick out, but to
> > demonstrate track accuracy and then have to field questions on the
> > "missing" dynamic lighting makes you wonder if the effort is worthwhile,
> > which would be a shame for the rest of us keen to monitor progress.

> > Cheers
> > Tony