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Advance Notification: GPL Track Creator

Phil Flac

Advance Notification: GPL Track Creator

by Phil Flac » Wed, 03 Jan 2001 05:02:49

Ever wanted to make your own track for GPL ?  Then you will be pleased
to hear the GPLEA are busily working on tutorials to guide and utilities
to build.

When?  Soon.

Phil
GPLEA

Dan Leac

Advance Notification: GPL Track Creator

by Dan Leac » Wed, 03 Jan 2001 05:06:53

woohoo  :)
   dan leach


Andre Warring

Advance Notification: GPL Track Creator

by Andre Warring » Wed, 03 Jan 2001 06:31:32

On Mon, 01 Jan 2001 20:02:49 +0000, Phil Flack


>Ever wanted to make your own track for GPL ?  Then you will be pleased
>to hear the GPLEA are busily working on tutorials to guide and utilities
>to build.

I -AM- pleased! :)
Banked Monza here it comes!!

Uhh.. when is soon? :)

Andre

Phil Flac

Advance Notification: GPL Track Creator

by Phil Flac » Wed, 03 Jan 2001 06:40:35

Anyone caught creating a banked monza will be, er..  one of about a
hundred I guess.  Aaargghh !

Phil
GPLEA


> On Mon, 01 Jan 2001 20:02:49 +0000, Phil Flack

> >Ever wanted to make your own track for GPL ?  Then you will be pleased
> >to hear the GPLEA are busily working on tutorials to guide and utilities
> >to build.

> I -AM- pleased! :)
> Banked Monza here it comes!!

> >When?  Soon.

> Uhh.. when is soon? :)

> Andre

> >Phil
> >GPLEA

GraDe

Advance Notification: GPL Track Creator

by GraDe » Wed, 03 Jan 2001 08:25:10

Hmmm.... We could all rush and really rush some tracks out or we could join
efforts and get some decent products... 1 good version not 17 bad ones ...
but who'll organise it? Not me :-)
Seriously, looking forward too it, I hope I can do something.


> Anyone caught creating a banked monza will be, er..  one of about a
> hundred I guess.  Aaargghh !

> Phil
> GPLEA


> > On Mon, 01 Jan 2001 20:02:49 +0000, Phil Flack

> > >Ever wanted to make your own track for GPL ?  Then you will be pleased
> > >to hear the GPLEA are busily working on tutorials to guide and
utilities
> > >to build.

> > I -AM- pleased! :)
> > Banked Monza here it comes!!

> > >When?  Soon.

> > Uhh.. when is soon? :)

> > Andre

> > >Phil
> > >GPLEA

Anthony Bulloc

Advance Notification: GPL Track Creator

by Anthony Bulloc » Wed, 03 Jan 2001 18:01:34

On Mon, 01 Jan 2001 20:02:49 +0000, Phil Flack


>Ever wanted to make your own track for GPL ?  Then you will be pleased
>to hear the GPLEA are busily working on tutorials to guide and utilities
>to build.

>When?  Soon.

>Phil
>GPLEA

Christmas was LAST week...

Looks like you parentage has prepared you well if things don't live up
to the lofty standards around here!

I think GraDee (see post below) has a very good point.  Once everyone
has had a play and realized they are not going to create a track a
week we need to get organized into groups.  Perhaps the guys from
GPLEA can give us an indication of the personhours required to build a
"releasable" track?

Regards,
Anthony Bulloch

GraDe

Advance Notification: GPL Track Creator

by GraDe » Thu, 04 Jan 2001 03:53:48


> On Mon, 01 Jan 2001 20:02:49 +0000, Phil Flack

> >Ever wanted to make your own track for GPL ?  Then you will be pleased
> >to hear the GPLEA are busily working on tutorials to guide and utilities
> >to build.

> >When?  Soon.

> >Phil
> >GPLEA

> Christmas was LAST week...

> Looks like you parentage has prepared you well if things don't live up
> to the lofty standards around here!

> I think GraDee (see post below) has a very good point.  Once everyone
> has had a play and realized they are not going to create a track a
> week we need to get organized into groups.  Perhaps the guys from
> GPLEA can give us an indication of the personhours required to build a
> "releasable" track?

Takes a long long time AFAIK.
Might be nice if we could get together a bunch to do one track instead of
all doing their own version. This mucked GP2 up a bit as we got 5 poor
versions of a track rather than 1 great one in some cases.
Ville V Sinkk

Advance Notification: GPL Track Creator

by Ville V Sinkk » Thu, 04 Jan 2001 04:14:37

As much as I would love to rejoice from the announcement, I
can't. Up until now track creation has been in the control
of a few gifted groups who have put time and effort into the modelling
of historical racing venues. The quality has, accordingly, been
almost unfalteringly superb. But now...

I'll just have to hope I'm being too pessimistic here.

+Cinquo

George M. Smile

Advance Notification: GPL Track Creator

by George M. Smile » Thu, 04 Jan 2001 07:21:24


Relax, no one will force you to download and install
their initial and/or poor attempts at track making.

Regardless, quality work always rises to the top, case
in point - do you see many online races for Avus on
VROC?  How about Dubai?

 - George

Andre Warring

Advance Notification: GPL Track Creator

by Andre Warring » Thu, 04 Jan 2001 08:51:02



I think you are... ofcourse a lot of half-finished, crappy tracks will
be released, but who would care to install them if they're crap?
This just gives people who are willing to spend time and energy in a
good track the change to fullfill their dreamtrack, and does not
hinder the creators from now (Gplea, Martijn, David, etc) in any way
from creating new superb tracks.
And about the problem that different versions will be released from
the same track: I think the community will quickly enough accept the
best of the different versions as the 'real track'.

The only thing I was really affraid of was that this editor could be
used for cheating. Well, I think the 'swappah' has learned us that the
GPL community doesn't like cheating (I haven't encountered a single
fake engine on vroc so far, only a couple of FD cars who clearly state
this in their nickname), and besides a fix for this is in the making
according to Alison.
I was very glad when I heard that it will N-O-T be possible to modify
existing tracks from other users.

I for one can't wait to start building those dreamtracks.. Banked
Monza, Bathurst, Banked Monza, turn 7 from Riverside, Banked Monza..
hell, I even want to build the parking place from my shopping mall :)

I think the news of the soon-to-be-released track editor is FANTASTIC
news, and I'm surprised that the reactions to this news are quite
tame...

Andre

Dave Henri

Advance Notification: GPL Track Creator

by Dave Henri » Thu, 04 Jan 2001 12:03:27

  Yes, the floodgates will be open.  How can all the un-tutored think they
can
whip out a Monza with the banking, when the guys who have put out Solitude
and Imola can't or won't.  We are gonna see a bunch of half-baked attempts
that will flood the net.  Then when people try to join a monza race, half
will have the original, a quarter will have a good banked version and an
eighth will have a crappy version and the last bit won't know what the heck
is going on..
dave henrie



> >As much as I would love to rejoice from the announcement, I
> >can't. Up until now track creation has been in the control
> >of a few gifted groups who have put time and effort into the modelling
> >of historical racing venues. The quality has, accordingly, been
> >almost unfalteringly superb. But now...

> >I'll just have to hope I'm being too pessimistic here.

> I think you are... ofcourse a lot of half-finished, crappy tracks will
> be released, but who would care to install them if they're crap?
> This just gives people who are willing to spend time and energy in a
> good track the change to fullfill their dreamtrack, and does not
> hinder the creators from now (Gplea, Martijn, David, etc) in any way
> from creating new superb tracks.
> And about the problem that different versions will be released from
> the same track: I think the community will quickly enough accept the
> best of the different versions as the 'real track'.

> The only thing I was really affraid of was that this editor could be
> used for cheating. Well, I think the 'swappah' has learned us that the
> GPL community doesn't like cheating (I haven't encountered a single
> fake engine on vroc so far, only a couple of FD cars who clearly state
> this in their nickname), and besides a fix for this is in the making
> according to Alison.
> I was very glad when I heard that it will N-O-T be possible to modify
> existing tracks from other users.

> I for one can't wait to start building those dreamtracks.. Banked
> Monza, Bathurst, Banked Monza, turn 7 from Riverside, Banked Monza..
> hell, I even want to build the parking place from my shopping mall :)

> I think the news of the soon-to-be-released track editor is FANTASTIC
> news, and I'm surprised that the reactions to this news are quite
> tame...

> Andre

> >+Cinquo

Brett C. Camma

Advance Notification: GPL Track Creator

by Brett C. Camma » Thu, 04 Jan 2001 12:13:47

This conversation reminds me of the British Lord who was against the
construction of the public railways way back when.  He felt they would
simply allow the unwashed masses to move about needlessly...

Who knows what undiscovered talent is lurking out there?  Let's find
out!  We need something along the lines of SourceForge (part of
Andover.Net, I believe) where people can register their projects and
solicit collaboration.

Regards,
Brett C. Cammack

(remove the DOTs from my return address to reply privately)

Ville V Sinkk

Advance Notification: GPL Track Creator

by Ville V Sinkk » Thu, 04 Jan 2001 18:30:31




>>I'll just have to hope I'm being too pessimistic here.
> I was very glad when I heard that it will N-O-T be possible to modify
> existing tracks from other users.

I am _very_ relieved to hear that too. That's what I was most worried about.

I was just toying with the idea of digging out Stunt Car Racer for
some design patterns. .)

+Cinquo

Andre Warrin

Advance Notification: GPL Track Creator

by Andre Warrin » Thu, 04 Jan 2001 19:56:23



Because they thought a banked Monza would be a boring circuit and they
wanted to put their time in more challenging tracks like Solitude and
Goodwood. I would like to have a banked Monza very much, to make the
circuit complete and ofcourse because of the movie Grand Prix.
If this would be possible with the track editor this would be
fantastic.

This won't happen. Just think about this one for a minute.

Andre
/Free the Track Editor! :)

Graeme Nas

Advance Notification: GPL Track Creator

by Graeme Nas » Fri, 05 Jan 2001 01:20:32

GPAL! :-)

--
Cheers!
Graeme Nash


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