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F1C - Magny Cours

Iain Mackenzi

F1C - Magny Cours

by Iain Mackenzi » Mon, 07 Jul 2003 18:29:15

In preparation for todays GP, I've been working on my performance at Magny
Cours for 2-3 hours over the weekend.  I cannot get anywhere near the -
realistic for 2002 - AI times of 1'11"-1'12" - I'm in the 1'17"s!
Is it just me? Has anyone else got anywhere near a decent time?  or anyone
got any tips for this circuit?
Iain

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Uwe hoover Schuerkam

F1C - Magny Cours

by Uwe hoover Schuerkam » Mon, 07 Jul 2003 18:48:48


> realistic for 2002 - AI times of 1'11"-1'12" - I'm in the 1'17"s!
> Is it just me? Has anyone else got anywhere near a decent time?  or anyone
> got any tips for this circuit?
> Iain

1:16.7xx is my PB in the McNish Toyota... I don't see how I
could go much faster than this. Note though that the circuit
layout around the backend (lycee) has changed quite a lot which
might improve lap times (no more braking for the chicane, and
the new chicane leading onto S/F is basically flat out from
what I've seen on TV so far.

Cheers,

uwe

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bill

F1C - Magny Cours

by bill » Mon, 07 Jul 2003 19:25:58

AI times are to quick if that's what they are doing, Pole last year 1:11.9
Montoya, My best is a low 1:15, no dought Greger will come along and do a
1:10 :)
Ped Xin

F1C - Magny Cours

by Ped Xin » Mon, 07 Jul 2003 20:09:12



I feel your pain.  Some of the guys who make setups (like The Notorious)
have gotten into the 1:11's.  The best I've managed in the 2002 Williams is
a low 1:15.  I smelled a 1:14 but made a mistake on that lap.  Anyways,
still quite a bit off from what the fast guys are turning unfortunately.

Ian

F1C - Magny Cours

by Ian » Mon, 07 Jul 2003 20:24:58


> AI times are to quick if that's what they are doing, Pole last year
> 1:11.9 Montoya, My best is a low 1:15, no dought Greger will come
> along and do a 1:10 :)

I can manage a mid 1:12 using low TC or a high 1:12 with no TC.

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Damien Smit

F1C - Magny Cours

by Damien Smit » Mon, 07 Jul 2003 20:36:07

I'm in the low 1:14s after doing 15 laps.  I'm sure I could get into the
1:12s with a lot more setup tweaking and practice - usually the fast guys
are at least 2-3 seconds faster than me....
Doug Elliso

F1C - Magny Cours

by Doug Elliso » Mon, 07 Jul 2003 23:48:45


I cant get thru the fast chicane before Chateau D'eau without spinning out
half the time

Doug

wojt

F1C - Magny Cours

by wojt » Tue, 08 Jul 2003 00:48:00

My PB is 1:13.4xx and there is still like 2-3 sec left on the track...
My suggestions: use much downforce (I use 48 front and 45 rear), the
chicanes are faster than you think ;-), so carry as much speed through
them as possible, slow in fast out ;-)
Nick

F1C - Magny Cours

by Nick » Tue, 08 Jul 2003 01:29:41



I think he's comparing AI performance, not 2003 real laptimes. And yes,
there are major changes to the end of the lap.

About the new Magny Cours section at the end of the lap...

Chateau d'eau is now extended further from the previous chicane, and is a
*lot* tighter. The idea is to slow the cars down for a run down to lyce.

The track out of chateau d'eau bears to the left a little before where the
final RL-R chicane used to be, and it runs further down in that direction,
until it is about level with the line of the S/F straight extended back.
Here is a relatively tight right hander, called lyce, which exits on a line
which would run just to the left of the S/F straight, parallel to it. Just
before the S/F line, there is a RL chicane onto the pit straight proper, and
the pit entry is straight on (like a mirror of Imola).

The official idea is to create another passing place, but they haven't done
that because chateau d'eau is too tight, the run down to lyce is too short,
and the cars actually brake as they round the left 'kink' (it is actually
quite a turn to the left - unnoticable in the dry but quite a lift in the
wet to avoid unsettling the car under braking for lyce). The RL chicane is
definitely not flat, but not a passing place either.

The real reason for the extension is grandstand capacity, which has been
increased dramatically.

Notice also that the cars run down the extreme right side of the S/F
straight, not on any grid slots at all, so there is no real 'clean' or
'dirty' side of the grid to be on.

What are the thoughts? Some drivers believe the new chicane to be
dangerous - a med RL with relatively high kerbs and a wall outside. Not
convinced myself, there should be nobody going in there underneath anybody.
Also, it's a quicker path to the finish line by driving in the pitlane (as
the S/F line is so close to the chicane), so some people are thinking that a
close end-of-race could see the trailing car heading down the pitlane to try
and gain a place at the death. That could be fun, not to mention
controversial... <g>

Iain Mackenzi

F1C - Magny Cours

by Iain Mackenzi » Tue, 08 Jul 2003 06:15:07

The times are pretty comparable with last years times, i.e. 1'11.9 (1st)
through to 1'14.8 (18th).
I've just managed to creep into the late 15s!
Iain


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bill

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by bill » Tue, 08 Jul 2003 08:15:37

Could I have your setup Ian :)
Bill

Ian

F1C - Magny Cours

by Ian » Tue, 08 Jul 2003 08:37:34


> Could I have your setup Ian :)
> Bill

Sure, but your mail address doesn't work.

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bill

F1C - Magny Cours

by bill » Tue, 08 Jul 2003 21:26:03


cheers



> > Could I have your setup Ian :)
> > Bill

> Sure, but your mail address doesn't work.

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Iain Mackenzi

F1C - Magny Cours

by Iain Mackenzi » Tue, 08 Jul 2003 22:28:52

Ian
Would you mind mailing it to me as well, as I'm struggling to get out of the
1'15s!

Thanks
Iain



> > Could I have your setup Ian :)
> > Bill

> Sure, but your mail address doesn't work.

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Eldre

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by Eldre » Thu, 10 Jul 2003 13:37:11



>Ian
>Would you mind mailing it to me as well, as I'm struggling to get out of the
>1'15s!

>Thanks
>Iain

I'm struggling to get out of the 1:25's(no shit)...

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