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G.P.L can't get better then 6th

Joe Murph

G.P.L can't get better then 6th

by Joe Murph » Fri, 03 Dec 1999 04:00:00

I'm getting frustrated i can't Qualify higher then sixth in the Eagle at
Monza.Any help pleeeeeeessssse?
Thanks
Joe.
Johan Foedere

G.P.L can't get better then 6th

by Johan Foedere » Fri, 03 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Well? What's your problem? I never qualified better than 8th (Ferrari)
and I'm still very pleased. I don't like racing in lower classes or
setting the AI back, so I just keep trying to beet the AI as is. And I'm
really not surprised that I'm not able to beat Mr. Clark after one year
of practise. Do you really think good ol' Jimmy got this fast in just a
year. I think not.

So.... don't cry out for help and be proud of your six position! My main
goal still is to finish with at least one driver still behind me. This
at least gives me the feeling I'm not totaly slow :-) This is for the
pro short races. With full GP's I'm just very glad to finish. I don't
mind the four or more laps I'm behind. You can even finish in the top
ten with 4L on the race result list. It's amazing how many AI driver
actually retire during a full GP.

Now get back to you wheel and feel good about whatever place you get!

// Johan.


> I'm getting frustrated i can't Qualify higher then sixth in the Eagle at
> Monza.Any help pleeeeeeessssse?
> Thanks
> Joe.

Andrew MacPhers

G.P.L can't get better then 6th

by Andrew MacPhers » Fri, 03 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Congratulations! Welcome to the real world where -- contrary
to popular belief -- we can't all be winners :-) Fortunately
we can all be millionaires (according to the spam I keep
getting) so life's not all bad!

Andrew McP

Christer Andersso

G.P.L can't get better then 6th

by Christer Andersso » Sat, 04 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Reinstall GPL :o).

/Chrille


GraDe

G.P.L can't get better then 6th

by GraDe » Sat, 04 Dec 1999 04:00:00

If I remember correctly then GPL is designed for the AI's to get a little
better as you get better so its actually possible to go to the top level and
never get pole or maybe a race win!?!?!

Its kinda like the way the AI's make mistakes in GPL, it sounds good on the
box but just wait until an AI punts you off the track.


Schlom

G.P.L can't get better then 6th

by Schlom » Sat, 04 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Drive Faster :)  I know its possible...I qualed on the pole nd finished 2nd in
the Eagle at Monza so keep at it.  In other words...practice, practice and
practice some more :)

Chris

Marko Viitane

G.P.L can't get better then 6th

by Marko Viitane » Sun, 05 Dec 1999 04:00:00

I think the idea is to run constant times, AI sets itself to certain speed
according your previous laptimes(online warptimes mess the whole system
badly, I had AI running low 1:23's at Monza). If you are constant and can
maintain that speed, you should be able to win it, unless there is those
"warp times", then it's just impossible.

Schlomo4 kirjoitti viestiss?

Mtank

G.P.L can't get better then 6th

by Mtank » Sun, 05 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Do you know how to "sandbag"?  That happens when you wait until the other
person is unaware and then you clobber him with a sandbag!  I thrashed out a
great F2 Brabham setup for The Glen that I realized was faster than those
rascals in the computer cars were driving.  I started a Single Race but instead
of running out and setting the fastest times I could, I just warmed the tires

remaining and hit the track.  One recon lap to make sure Ginther was in the pit
and then I took off for one good "keeper" lap followed by a balls-to-the-wall
PB lap and I had the pole by .58 seconds!  Since the end-of-qualy flag had
fallen just after I started my banzai lap, the AI was effectively sandbagged
and unable to react.  Heh heh.  Hulme used the Papy "magic traction" cheat to
beat me off the line and Black Jack got me in Big Bend for second but we left
those Loti as single pixels in our mirrors.
Mtanker
A   V A S T  Right-Wing Conspirator

Ruud van Ga

G.P.L can't get better then 6th

by Ruud van Ga » Sun, 05 Dec 1999 04:00:00



It's called global hype, and you can turn it off in one of the .ini
files.
Not really cheating, but well, the honour of winning goes down a bit.

Ruud van Gaal
MarketGraph / MachTech: http://www.marketgraph.nl
Art: http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery

Peter Ive

G.P.L can't get better then 6th

by Peter Ive » Mon, 06 Dec 1999 04:00:00



>>AI sets itself to certain speed
>>according your previous laptimes

>Do you know how to "sandbag"?  That happens when you wait until the other
>person is unaware and then you clobber him with a sandbag!  I thrashed out a
>great F2 Brabham setup for The Glen that I realized was faster than those
>rascals in the computer cars were driving.  I started a Single Race but instead
>of running out and setting the fastest times I could, I just warmed the tires

>remaining and hit the track.  One recon lap to make sure Ginther was in the pit
>and then I took off for one good "keeper" lap followed by a balls-to-the-wall
>PB lap and I had the pole by .58 seconds!  Since the end-of-qualy flag had
>fallen just after I started my banzai lap, the AI was effectively sandbagged
>and unable to react.  Heh heh.  Hulme used the Papy "magic traction" cheat to
>beat me off the line and Black Jack got me in Big Bend for second but we left
>those Loti as single pixels in our mirrors.

Don't think that's really necessary.  I find that as long as I can
improve my PB over the last time that I raced at that circuit then it
will put me on pole if I was originally quicker than the AI in the first
place.  This is guaranteed no matter at what stage during qualifying
that I set this PB.  This is at the Grand Prix level.

In fact I find that the AI are about anything from a couple of 10ths to
a whole second off my previous PB, and because I am still improving each
time I return to a circuit then they are not getting any closer. :-)
--
Peter Ives - (AKA Ivington)

No person's opinions can be said to be
more correct than another's, because each is
the sole judge of his or her own experience.

Eldre

G.P.L can't get better then 6th

by Eldre » Tue, 07 Dec 1999 04:00:00


Gaal) writes:


>>If I remember correctly then GPL is designed for the AI's to get a little
>>better as you get better so its actually possible to go to the top level and
>>never get pole or maybe a race win!?!?!

>It's called global hype, and you can turn it off in one of the .ini
>files.
>Not really cheating, but well, the honour of winning goes down a bit.

How's that?  You beat the AI that came out of the box, not the AI that has been
'enhanced'.  If the computer always gets faster(and of course computers adapt
faster), then it already has another advantage.

Eldred
--
Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999
Own Grand Prix Legends?  Goto  http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc

Never argue with an idiot.  He brings you down to his level, then beats you
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Eldre

G.P.L can't get better then 6th

by Eldre » Tue, 07 Dec 1999 04:00:00



>Don't think that's really necessary.  I find that as long as I can
>improve my PB over the last time that I raced at that circuit then it
>will put me on pole if I was originally quicker than the AI in the first
>place.  This is guaranteed no matter at what stage during qualifying
>that I set this PB.  This is at the Grand Prix level.

>In fact I find that the AI are about anything from a couple of 10ths to
>a whole second off my previous PB, and because I am still improving each
>time I return to a circuit then they are not getting any closer. :-)
>--

Some of us haven't gotten fast enough for our PB to beat the AI.  My PB at
Monza is still 1 to 1.5 second off what Clark does right out of the box...  

Eldred
--
Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999
Own Grand Prix Legends?  Goto  http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc

Never argue with an idiot.  He brings you down to his level, then beats you
with experience...
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Joe Murph

G.P.L can't get better then 6th

by Joe Murph » Tue, 07 Dec 1999 04:00:00

No wonder i do my best laps early get frustrarted when theres a sudden
increase in the compititions ability and push that little bit to hard.This
is a real ballbreacker of a game?
thanks Joe

Ruud van Ga

G.P.L can't get better then 6th

by Ruud van Ga » Tue, 07 Dec 1999 04:00:00



From the readme.txt (1.0):

---
npt_override = 0.00     ; set to > 0.0 to override normalized player
time

    This is the main one for controlling AI speed.  Setting it to 1.0
would make all AI cars run at their baseline time.  Below 1.0 causes
faster cars; above 1.0 slower.
---

Note this is in gpl_ai.ini under [magic].
Try setting it to 1.0 or delete your player.sts file somewhere in the
GPL directory (players/YourName/player.sts). This holds somewhat of
the last 10 best times you did on all tracks. The average is a factor
for hyping the AI.

Ruud van Gaal
MarketGraph / MachTech: http://www.marketgraph.nl
Art: http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery

Don Burnett

G.P.L can't get better then 6th

by Don Burnett » Wed, 08 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Lol, I'm tickled pink anytime I finish in the top 10.

--
Don Burnette
Dburn in N3 and Legends



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